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2020 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Surrender Cobras (Confirmed COWARDS!)

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ORD_Buckeye said:
It was literally the original sin of lack of institutional control when Yost refused to put his football program under the control of the university President and faculty as required by the conference, and the President allowed them to be kicked out rather than exert control over their rogue coach.
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It's funny how Michigan fans never own up to the whole Yost story or how they have continually tried to bully the rest of the Big Ten. BB73's posting years back of the battles back and forth between Yost and Rockne followed by their effort to keep Notre Dame out of the conference, then Michigan State, followed by their bellyaching over the Rose Bowl following the 10 - 10 tie, continuing with 2016 and the critical first down call, adn now the whole everyone else cheats.
 
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cincibuck said:
It's funny how Michigan fans never own up to the whole Yost story or how they have continually tried to bully the rest of the Big Ten. BB73's posting years back of the battles back and forth between Yost and Rockne followed by their effort to keep Notre Dame out of the conference, then Michigan State, followed by their bellyaching over the Rose Bowl following the 10 - 10 tie, continuing with 2016 and the critical first down call, adn now the whole everyone else cheats.
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It's almost like they have a long established culture of being unlikable twats.
 
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cincibuck said:
It's funny how Michigan fans never own up to the whole Yost story or how they have continually tried to bully the rest of the Big Ten. BB73's posting years back of the battles back and forth between Yost and Rockne followed by their effort to keep Notre Dame out of the conference, then Michigan State, followed by their bellyaching over the Rose Bowl following the 10 - 10 tie, continuing with 2016 and the critical first down call, adn now the whole everyone else cheats.
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I think @LordJeffBuck posted more of that info than I did.
 
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cincibuck said:
It's funny how Michigan fans never own up to the whole Yost story or how they have continually tried to bully the rest of the Big Ten. BB73's posting years back of the battles back and forth between Yost and Rockne followed by their effort to keep Notre Dame out of the conference, then Michigan State, followed by their bellyaching over the Rose Bowl following the 10 - 10 tie, continuing with 2016 and the critical first down call, adn now the whole everyone else cheats.
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BB73 said:
I think @LordJeffBuck posted more of that info than I did.
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If you're interested, here's what I wrote about Yost and Notre Dame....
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The Big Ten Conference was formed in 1896, and by 1917 it counted as members every major football power in the upper midwest. All except one - Notre Dame.

Notre Dame began football in 1887 as an independent and it has stayed that way ever since despite various attempts to lure them into a conference. But in the early days, before Notre Dame became a brand name in college football, the small private Catholic school in South Bend, Indiana, actually tried to join the Big Ten. Although Notre Dame fit the Big Ten profile geographically, that factor was about the only match with the other conference members, most of whom (Northwestern and Chicago being the exceptions) were large state-operated "land grant" universities. The Big Ten could ignore the "small" and "private" aspects of Notre Dame, as the conference had previously done with Northwestern and the University of Chicago, but many of the powers that be had a serious problem with the "Catholic" element of that university.

The rift between Notre Dame and the Big Ten dates back to at least 1909. Back then, Notre Dame was a considered a "cupcake". From 1887 to 1908, the Fighting Irish sported an impressive overall record of 89-30-9 (.730 winning percentage), but the vast majority of those victories came against a motley crew of high schools, prep schools, medical schools, dental schools, law schools, future D-III programs, and private clubs such as the Illinois Cycling Club and the South Bend Howard Park Club. Against the relatively powerful Big Ten schools, Notre Dame had a miserable record of 10-23-4, with the Irish being outscored 189 to 518 in those 37 contests.

Led by the legendary Fielding Yost, Michigan was perhaps the most powerful program in the country in first decade of the Twentieth Century. Yost took over the Michigan program in 1901, and during his first eight years on the job his team posted an overall record of 69-5-2 (.921 winning percentage) with four national championships. Yost was ruthless in victory (his teams would "tramp on the injured and hurdle the dead" according to one sportswriter), but petulant in defeat.

In 1909, Notre Dame faced Michigan for the ninth time. The Wolverines had won all of the previous eight games by a combined score of 121 to 16, with Yost notching two of those wins (1902 and 1908). However, Notre Dame pulled off the upset that year, besting Michigan by the score of 11 to 3 in Ann Arbor. After the game Yost was the typical sore loser, claiming that the contest was nothing more than an exhibition game, with his team "caring little whether we won or lost."

But Yost obviously cared more than he let on, as he subsequently cancelled the 1910 rematch with Notre Dame, claiming that the Fighting Irish were using ineligible players. Yost then blackballed Notre Dame and refused to play them for the remainder of his tenure at Michigan, which did not end until he finally retired as athletic director in 1941.

Yost was known as a virulent anti-Catholic, and during the 1920's he worked behind the scenes to keep Notre Dame from joining the Big Ten Conference. Under the direction of President Father Walsh, Notre Dame made an informal "goodwill tour" of the Big Ten schools to make its case to join the conference, but the tour hit a roadblock in Ann Arbor where Yost still held his grudge. In the mid-1920's Yost had a lot of sway within the conference, and his denigration of Notre Dame's athletics, academics, and religious affiliation was enough to convince the other Big Ten members to steer clear of South Bend. Although Notre Dame would eventually end up forming rivalries with several Big Ten teams (including Michigan after 1941), the football program would remain more-or-less unaligned until the present day.
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And discuss.

https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/belleville-coach-likes-anti-harbaugh-tweets

On a side note, I'm guessing Fredo's megacamp featuring SimpLLLLLe Jim and tsun is now officially scrapped.

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ORD_Buckeye said:
And discuss.

https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/belleville-coach-likes-anti-harbaugh-tweets

On a side note, I'm guessing Fredo's megacamp featuring SimpLLLLLe Jim and tsun is now officially scrapped.

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evenyoubrutus

May 20th, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^

No one doubts that Harbaugh is abrasive and clashes with people. Generally the mature way to deal with personal issues is to handle them... personally. Steering recruits away from a program because you have a personal problem with the coach is self centered and tampering with high school kids' futures.

BUT I'm a blind Harbaugh apologist so my opinion is worthless.
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DrMantisToboggan

May 20th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^

Basically DPJ alluded to not getting along with Harbaugh towards the end to some coaches. Personally, I would avoid jabbing at your head coach in a job interview - especially when your head coach's name is royalty in the league - but that's just me I guess. I also would not downplay the role that Tarik Black played in DPJ's experience at Michigan. Tarik soured on Harbaugh first, and Tarik is DPJ's boy.
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They are this close to putting it all together that not going to Michigan and avoiding Harbaugh is solid career advice.
 
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