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2019-2020 B1G Men's Basketball (Official Thread)

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DZ83CK said:
Definitely a big loss for Minnesota. Can't picture them as even a bubble team now, probably no postseason is where they are headed in 2020.
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not at all a good offseason for minnesota, iowa, rutgers, or ttun. heck, throw in wisconsin, too, since they got neither of the hausers, though that wouldn't have mattered for next season. still have time for some good transfer additions, though.

msu, md, and osu further distinguishing themselves as the preseason frontrunners. from my vantage point, think illinois has solidified itself as my #4 team. after them, it's a mess of attrition and question marks.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
not at all a good offseason for minnesota, iowa, rutgers, or ttun. heck, throw in wisconsin, too, since they got neither of the hausers, though that wouldn't have mattered for next season. still have time for some good transfer additions, though.

msu, md, and osu further distinguishing themselves as the preseason frontrunners. think illinois has solidified itself with what i'd put as my #4 team.
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I don't disagree with MSU, MD and OSU being at the top, and IL might well be right behind them, but don't forget Purdue. They are not going to go quietly.
 
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DZ83CK said:
I don't disagree with MSU, MD and OSU being at the top, and IL might well be right behind them, but don't forget Purdue. They are not going to go quietly.
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the challenge for purdue is that edwards and cline are irreplaceable players. at 35%, edwards' usage right was one of the tops nationally. there wasn't a better duo in the nation at stretching defenses. between those two guys and eifert, i don't see an offense that makes me feel comfortable with placing them 4th. their backcourt has been hemorrhaged, and it's not as though eastern is a good shooter -- or a shooter at all, really. he averaged about 30 minutes last year but attempted only 4 shots behind the arc. much will be asked of hunter, newman, and transfer proctor. while proctor averaged about 20 points at high point, he rarely performed against good teams.

painter is a good coach, but i'm also reminded of the 5 or so seasons before edwards' arrival. purdue fans weren't all that enamored with him, especially come march. the good news for painter, however, is that a lot of teams in the b1g's projected middle have also lost a ton.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
the challenge for purdue is that edwards and cline are irreplaceable players. at 35%, edwards' usage right was one of the tops nationally. there wasn't a better duo in the nation at stretching defenses. between those two guys and eifert, i don't see an offense that makes me feel comfortable with placing them 4th. their backcourt has been hemorrhaged, and it's not as though eastern is a good shooter -- or a shooter at all, really. he averaged about 30 minutes last year but attempted only 4 shots behind the arc. much will be asked of hunter, newman, and transfer proctor. while proctor averaged about 20 points at high point, he rarely performed against good teams.

painter is a good coach, but i'm also reminded of the 5 or so seasons before edwards' arrival. purdue fans weren't all that enamored with him, especially come march. the good news for painter, however, is that a lot of teams in the b1g's projected middle have also lost a ton.
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As you suggest, Purdue's roster matches up favorably with the mid- and bottom-tier B1G teams. I don't dispute their losses were big, particularly Edwards, but they were top-6 or 7 in the country with them, so they can take a step back and still be a top-25 type team.
 
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Coffey didn't get invited to the combine and still leaves. Huge blow for the Gophers.

Between that, the scUM upheaval, Illinois striking out on Holyfield, and Iowa's not-good off-season, I guess I'm picking a Top 4 finish for the Buckeyes.

MSU (with a bullet)
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MD
PUR
OSU
ILL
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IND
IOWA
scUM
MINNY > this tier was basically impossible to sort
WISC
PSU
NEB
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NW
RUTGERS

Rutgers would be much higher if their best player hadn't suddenly decided to transfer.

With Lamar Stevens coming back and given how that team finished out conference play, PSU could be a much better team than I'm giving credit for. But Chambers has a lame duck feeling to his regime.
 
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Chanbers teams always struggle to gain traction in nonconference play, they start very slow, usually lose 4-5 nonconference games and aren't able to make up enough ground in conference play to make the tournament. Literally every team he has had has lost a nonconference game to a non-top-100 team, and often it has been multiple losses. The only team that lost less than 3 nonconference games had a cupcake-laden slate with only 1 top-100 opponent, and went 4-14 in league play. In 7 of 9 years they have had exactly 4 or 5 nonconference losses. Even with a veteran roster it is hard to have any faith in a perpetual slow starter with a history of underachievement.
 
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