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2018 tOSU Offense Discussion

Who plays center then? Is Josh Myers ready?

Apparently not. It's concerning that you have a position that is clearly underperforming, mostly in run blocking, and none of the young guys are able to push for playing time. I think the only way the run game comes along is if Bowen comes back or Jordan is moved to replace Pridgeon. Best case scenario would be both moving to guard and someone taking over center.
 
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WATCH: Greg Schiano, Ryan Day Discuss Changes On The Way

Day was asked about the offense’s struggles in the running game and the red zone, as well as potential new starters on the offensive line.



Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/10/watch-greg-schiano-ryan-day-discuss-changes-way/

PRESSER BULLETS: RYAN DAY, GREG SCHIANO DISCUSS HOW OHIO STATE IS WORKING TO IMPROVE DURING OFF WEEK

Day met with the media after Schiano to talk about the Buckeyes' offense. What you need to know from his time answering questions:
  • Day said the coaches are working through the process of figuring out whether their issues in run blocking are based in personnel, execution or scheme.
  • Day said he "can't say enough good things about" J.K. Dobbins and Mike Weber even though they haven't been able to get going as much in the run game this year.
  • On the Buckeyes' struggles in the red zone on Saturday: "We missed a few passes down there that we've hit (in previous weeks) ... but also, we have to be able to pound the ball and get three yards when we need to."
  • Branden Bowen is "not ready to play yet," but he is practicing this week.
  • Day said he doesn't anticipate any lineup changes on the offensive line at this point, but said there's always competition, especially this week during the off week.
  • On the possibility of playing Tate Martell in the red zone, Day gave a similar answer to that which he has given in previous weeks: "We're constantly looking at that."
  • Day said he believes the offensive line should be able to impose its will on opposing defenses. Has it done that this year? "We're evaluating that right now."
  • "Running Dwayne down there really isn't as much of an option as it used to be with J.T.," so Day said the Buckeyes are looking at different options for running the ball in the red zone.
  • On Haskins' missed passes in the red zone: "When you're in that role, and you have to chance to make a play with your arm, you got to make it."
  • Binjimen Victor will start for Ohio State at X receiver with Austin Mack out. Day also said Jaylen Harris is a "young guy that's going to have step up as well," and that he could be in line for more playing time, while the Buckeyes could also move Terry McLaurin or Johnnie Dixon over into that spot.
  • Day's overall mood about this offense: "Just frustrated that we've done so many good things, but didn't have much to show for it on Saturday night."
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...o-state-is-working-to-improve-during-off-week
 
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COACH'S SHOW RECAP: URBAN MEYER AND KEVIN WILSON TALK THE LOSS TO PURDUE, RED ZONE STRUGGLES AND TIGHT END DEVELOPMENT

URBAN MEYER


ON MISSED RED ZONE OPPORTUNITIES:

  • "When you get four red zone opportunities and get two field goals, that's a whole different ball game if you get it in the end zone."
  • That's been a strength of the team, but not recently.
  • "I can't tell you the number of hours we've spent on that."
ON THE TIGHT ENDS
  • Meyer said he thinks they'll become more involved in the offense.
  • "Rashod and Luke have done a really good job,"
  • Mentioned Jeremy Ruckert is coming along.
ON DWAYNE HASKINS THROWING 73 TIMES
  • "That's certainly not the intent."
  • The score indicated that in the fourth quarter you basically throw it every down."
  • "For six years, it was 50/50 – 250 rush, 250 pass. It's not," Meyer said of the running and passing balance. "We have to do better at that."
ON K.J. HILL
  • "He's an elite player. He's a guy that you count on."
  • "He's maybe not the fastest guy or the biggest guy," but he gets the job done.
  • Notes Dwayne Haskins has a lot of confidence in him.
KEVIN WILSON

ON TRANSITIONING FROM GUARD TO CENTER
  • "It's the same position, it's just managing the ball."
  • "The center passes the ball more than anyone else on the team – he passes it every play."
  • "It's really just the ability to manage the ball."
  • "He becomes the voice box for the offensive line."
  • "There's a little more communication and leadership skills needed."
ON FALTERING IN THE RED ZONE
  • "You need to run the ball a little bit better," Wilson said.
  • "Running the ball is a mindset and an attitude," Wilson said.
  • Wilson said you can change the scheme, but ultimately it comes down to execution.
  • "The box has always been loaded," Wilson said, even when J.T. Barrett was running it last year.
  • "You have to make competitive one-on-one plays," Wilson said.
ON JEREMY RUCKERT
  • "I really think Jeremy Ruckert's doing well."
  • Wilson said Ohio State needs to get Ruckert on the field more.
  • "We should have been playing him all along," Wilson said, when the Buckeyes began to air it out in the second half. "He's playing good, and he plays the least."
HOW IMPORTANT IS FIRST DOWN ON SECOND AND THIRD DOWN PLAY CALLING?
  • When you're doing well on first down, it sets the rhythm for the rest of the offense.
  • "When you're not doing well on first down, you're out of rhythm."
  • Wilson said he thinks all good offenses have good rhythm.
Rntire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ss-to-purdue-red-zone-struggles-and-tight-end
 
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Could Tate Martell Be Buckeyes’ Answer in the Red Zone?

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Scoring touchdowns in the red zone is usually the pay off for a long, sustained drive. When teams don’t capitalize in the red zone, however, it makes all of the work they did to get there essentially worthless.

Last Saturday night at Purdue, despite outgaining the Boilermakers 546 yards to 539 yards, the difference was in the red zone, where the Buckeyes failed to score a touchdown on any of their five visits. Purdue, meanwhile, scored touchdowns on all three of their trips.

The week before that, the Ohio State offense failed to reach the end zone on each of their three visits against Minnesota, meaning that the Buckeyes have failed to score touchdowns in eight consecutive trips to the red zone. In those eight visits, Ohio State scored just 12 points.

The struggles are not new this season. Against Penn State and TCU, the Buckeyes converted just two of six trips into touchdowns. All told, against OSU’s four toughest opponents this season, the Ohio State offense has converted just two of 14 red-zone trips into touchdowns. In the other four games — against Indiana, Tulane, Rutgers, and Oregon State — they have scored touchdowns on 19 of 23 visits.

Red-zone difficulties against Ohio State’s better opponents, especially of late, has caused the coaching staff to examine ways to fix what is a quickly-growing concern.

In 2015, they attempted to solve the issues with a more mobile quarterback. The same thing may have to happen this season as well.

“Running Dwayne down there really isn’t as much of an option as it used to be with J.T. [Barrett],” OSU offensive coordinator Ryan Day said this week. “Really uncovering everything. Whether it’s the quarterback run with someone like Tate [Martell] coming into the game, a wildcat package, different personnel, all those things that we’re evaluating right now.”

Not withstanding that the red-zone issues could have been less problematic last week with a couple of better throws, the idea of getting Martell into the game is one that could breathe new life into an offense that needs it.

Because of the close scores in each of the last four games, however, Martell hasn’t seen the field since the Tulane game over a month ago. His ability to run the ball would give the Buckeyes the numbers equality that Urban Meyer covets, but the offensive coaches have shown no desire to take the football out of the hands of Dwayne Haskins.

But they also can’t continue failing to score touchdowns in the red zone. During the off week they are looking at the reasons for why they have failed. If it turns out a quarterback change is needed, they will look at that, but there are drawbacks to that as well.

“That’s one of the other things,” Day explained. “Again, part of identifying what the problem is, do we change our personnel? We’re constantly looking at that. Sometimes when you make those personnel changes, you can slow down the flow of the game. But if it’s giving us a better opportunity, then we really need to look hard into that. And so we are, we’re looking into that.”

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/10/tate-martell-buckeyes-answer-red-zone/
 
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BREAKING DOWN THE FOUR PROBLEMS OHIO STATE MUST FIX: GIVING UP BIG PLAYS, RUNNING GAME, RED ZONE AND PENALTIES

PROBLEM 2: INEFFECTIVE RUNNING GAME

WHAT’S THE PROBLEM?
Despite having one of the nation’s most talented running back tandems in J.K. Dobbins and Mike Weber, the Buckeyes’ ground game has been stuck in the mud for weeks. They’ve averaged less than 3.3 yards per carry in each of their last four games.

Their 4.36 yards per carry this season rank 66th in the FBS, and they’re tied for just 69th in the FBS with only 12 rushing touchdowns.

Both Dobbins and Weber are slightly over 500 rushing yards for the season (Dobbins has 521 yards on 120 carries, while Weber has 516 yards on 96 carries), but unlike the past four seasons with J.T. Barrett, Ohio State’s starting quarterback does not offer a significant running threat this season, as Dwayne Haskins has rushed for just 56 yards and one touchdown on 35 carries.

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WHAT COACHES ARE SAYING
While Ohio State has passed the ball as well as any team in the country – it’s currently tied for second in the Football Bowl Subdivision in passing yards per game (383.8) and completion percentage (72.0), and tied for the national lead in passing touchdowns (31) – Meyer knows that his team must be able to start running the ball more effectively to provide offensive balance.

“That has to happen,” Meyer said. “Take advantage of our backs, and our backs got to run through some tackles a little more aggressively.”

Ohio State offensive coordinator Ryan Day says that successful running relies on everyone doing their job correctly – not only the running backs and the offensive line blocking in front of them, but receivers blocking on the perimeter and the quarterback executing reads correctly – and that the Buckeyes are still evaluating what’s gone wrong and what they need to fix.

Ohio State’s other offensive coordinator, Kevin Wilson, says that while the Buckeyes are looking at possible schematic adjustments that could help the run game, he also believes a big part of what the Buckeyes need in the run game is to just be tougher and more fundamentally sound.

“My first mentor (former Northwestern coach) Randy Walker always said that running ball is a mindset and an attitude, and I think we’ve talked a lot about again pad level of O-linemen, pad level of running backs playing behind your pads, playing with a little bit more velocity,” Wilson said.

CAN THEY FIX IT?
While Haskins might be the best passer that Meyer has ever had, he’s also perhaps the least mobile starting quarterback that Meyer has ever had, and the Buckeyes have clearly struggled to adjust to that in the running game so far this season. They’re still using many of the same read option plays that they used with Barrett, and because defenses don’t respect the threat of Haskins to run the ball, those plays aren’t working.

Theoretically, Ohio State’s offensive line should be able to impose its will upon opposing defenses, considering that it’s one of the biggest offensive lines in the country. That hasn’t happened so far this year, however, so that unit needs to step up and push more defenders around in order to open up more holes for Weber and Dobbins.

With that being said, the Buckeyes also need to implement some new running plays into their offense that don’t rely on the quarterback run option creating misdirection, because Haskins simply hasn’t run the ball effectively enough for that to work. If the Buckeyes can use their off week to install some more traditional, pro-style running plays that allow the offensive line and running backs to attack defenses in different ways, that could potentially be a fix. The Buckeyes could start playing Tate Martell situationally in order to bring in a running threat at the quarterback position, but although that possibility has been teased all season, they have yet to actually do it in a game.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...big-plays-running-game-red-zone-and-penalties
 
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FILM STUDY: OHIO STATE'S RED ZONE DIFFICULTIES CAN BE SOLVED BY MORE THAN QUARTERBACK RUNS

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"We missed a few passes down there that we've hit (in previous weeks) ... but also, we have to be able to pound the ball and get three yards when we need to." - Ohio State offensive coordinator Ryan Day on his team's recent struggles in the red zone.

Nearly every coach will agree that the most critical element in finding success near the goal-line is a team's mentality. No matter how well prepared they may be in terms of scheme and execution, at some point, they must find the will to win a one-on-one battle with their opponent from a purely physical standpoint.

Many pundits and fans agree that this edge is missing from the Buckeye offense right now, after failing to punch the ball into the end zone on any of their five trips inside the Purdue 20-yard line two weeks ago. However, mentality and effort will only get so far with a unit that has completely changed from its 2017 form.

While OSU has seemed incapable of running the ball effectively at any point on the field recently, their struggles are magnified in the red zone once the defensive secondary no longer plays in fear of a Dwayne Haskins Deep Ball™. In the past, this extra attention from a safety playing near the line of scrimmage could be negated by the running threat of Buckeye quarterbacks like Braxton Miller or J.T. Barrett, making the team one of the nation's best at scoring touchdowns inside the 20.

With athletic backup QB Tate Martell sitting right there, a special package featuring the redshirt freshman seems to be the obvious answer to many, and one Ryan Day and the other coaches are "evaluating right now." However, such a move would require such a heavy investment in practice time to ensure Martell is prepared to do more than simply run a zone-read, that the risk may not justify the reward.

However, Day and Kevin Wilson should consider changing things up once inside the red zone. While they often use a high tempo to catch defenses off-guard down there, the schemes and personnel hardly change from what the team runs elsewhere on the field, often relying on the same, 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE) that lines up on virtually every other snap.

This is a departure from how many of their peers operate, however. According to a report from XandOLabs.com, 81% of offensive coaches have a separate plan dedicated to the red zone, with 69% saying they will vary their philosophy once there, leading many defensive coaches to not use a yard-marker to determine where the red zone begins, but rather when the offense changes their play packages.

Ohio State has regularly relied on their tight zone run to pound the ball between the tackles in this area, but that play alone does not negate the extra bodies near the line without an option element.

Per the XandOLabs.com report, the most popular run concept in the red zone is Power, which pulls the backside guard around to lead the back behind a wall of down blocks. In theory, this concept negates any extra defenders to the play-side, as the pulling guard gives the offense more blockers there and forces any unblocked backside defenders to fight through traffic before making a play.

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Against Purdue, however, the backside ends were still able to crash down and make a play on the runner while the tackle blocked the linebacker.

To get the most out of this concept, the Buckeyes should consider using 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 TEs) more often. By adding an extra gap to either side of the formation, the defense's edge defenders are a few yards farther away from the play, making it harder to come downhill and chase the runner. Meanwhile, the offense still has a numbers advantage to the play-side thanks to the puller (#78 in the clip below).

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Another way to hold these edge defenders is by leaning on Jet motion. The OSU coaches have often brought Parris Campbell across the formation at full speed, giving him a quick handoff behind a cadre of blockers around the edge.

This motion was especially effective with Barrett at the helm, as it could be used as the sweep element in the Power-Read concept that had been so effective near the goal-line. The QB read the unblocked front-side end to decide whether to give on the sweep or keep on a Power run for himself.

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Since Haskins lacks the skillset to carry the ball for big yardage on such a play, the Buckeyes could take another page from the Clemson playbook and combine the Jetmotion with a regular Power run, asking the QB to simply give on one of two handoff options instead of running for himself. Though the QB does not negate a defender himself by posing a threat to run, the combination of the Jet motion and inside blocking scheme still puts the end in conflict.

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The same theory also applies when Ohio State wants to run Tight Zone. Instead of blocking the play for the sweep itself, simply using the motion as bait to will attract the extra defender that would otherwise gum up the box (watch #30 in the clip below).

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Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...can-be-solved-by-embracing-their-new-identity
 
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FILM STUDY: OHIO STATE'S RED ZONE DIFFICULTIES CAN BE SOLVED BY MORE THAN QUARTERBACK RUNS

98232_h_0.jpg


"We missed a few passes down there that we've hit (in previous weeks) ... but also, we have to be able to pound the ball and get three yards when we need to." - Ohio State offensive coordinator Ryan Day on his team's recent struggles in the red zone.

Nearly every coach will agree that the most critical element in finding success near the goal-line is a team's mentality. No matter how well prepared they may be in terms of scheme and execution, at some point, they must find the will to win a one-on-one battle with their opponent from a purely physical standpoint.

Many pundits and fans agree that this edge is missing from the Buckeye offense right now, after failing to punch the ball into the end zone on any of their five trips inside the Purdue 20-yard line two weeks ago. However, mentality and effort will only get so far with a unit that has completely changed from its 2017 form.

While OSU has seemed incapable of running the ball effectively at any point on the field recently, their struggles are magnified in the red zone once the defensive secondary no longer plays in fear of a Dwayne Haskins Deep Ball™. In the past, this extra attention from a safety playing near the line of scrimmage could be negated by the running threat of Buckeye quarterbacks like Braxton Miller or J.T. Barrett, making the team one of the nation's best at scoring touchdowns inside the 20.

With athletic backup QB Tate Martell sitting right there, a special package featuring the redshirt freshman seems to be the obvious answer to many, and one Ryan Day and the other coaches are "evaluating right now." However, such a move would require such a heavy investment in practice time to ensure Martell is prepared to do more than simply run a zone-read, that the risk may not justify the reward.

However, Day and Kevin Wilson should consider changing things up once inside the red zone. While they often use a high tempo to catch defenses off-guard down there, the schemes and personnel hardly change from what the team runs elsewhere on the field, often relying on the same, 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE) that lines up on virtually every other snap.

This is a departure from how many of their peers operate, however. According to a report from XandOLabs.com, 81% of offensive coaches have a separate plan dedicated to the red zone, with 69% saying they will vary their philosophy once there, leading many defensive coaches to not use a yard-marker to determine where the red zone begins, but rather when the offense changes their play packages.

Ohio State has regularly relied on their tight zone run to pound the ball between the tackles in this area, but that play alone does not negate the extra bodies near the line without an option element.

Per the XandOLabs.com report, the most popular run concept in the red zone is Power, which pulls the backside guard around to lead the back behind a wall of down blocks. In theory, this concept negates any extra defenders to the play-side, as the pulling guard gives the offense more blockers there and forces any unblocked backside defenders to fight through traffic before making a play.

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Against Purdue, however, the backside ends were still able to crash down and make a play on the runner while the tackle blocked the linebacker.

To get the most out of this concept, the Buckeyes should consider using 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 TEs) more often. By adding an extra gap to either side of the formation, the defense's edge defenders are a few yards farther away from the play, making it harder to come downhill and chase the runner. Meanwhile, the offense still has a numbers advantage to the play-side thanks to the puller (#78 in the clip below).

5j7USAq.gif


Another way to hold these edge defenders is by leaning on Jet motion. The OSU coaches have often brought Parris Campbell across the formation at full speed, giving him a quick handoff behind a cadre of blockers around the edge.

This motion was especially effective with Barrett at the helm, as it could be used as the sweep element in the Power-Read concept that had been so effective near the goal-line. The QB read the unblocked front-side end to decide whether to give on the sweep or keep on a Power run for himself.

16%3A17%20Blast%20%28Power-Read%29.png


Since Haskins lacks the skillset to carry the ball for big yardage on such a play, the Buckeyes could take another page from the Clemson playbook and combine the Jetmotion with a regular Power run, asking the QB to simply give on one of two handoff options instead of running for himself. Though the QB does not negate a defender himself by posing a threat to run, the combination of the Jet motion and inside blocking scheme still puts the end in conflict.

HYNpzoG.gif


The same theory also applies when Ohio State wants to run Tight Zone. Instead of blocking the play for the sweep itself, simply using the motion as bait to will attract the extra defender that would otherwise gum up the box (watch #30 in the clip below).

HC7Ywvt.gif


Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...can-be-solved-by-embracing-their-new-identity

Embrace their new identity? How about not getting beat at the point of attack. Let’s start with something simple like that, you know so the QB can actually hand the ball off to the back without being tackled instantly.

Get nasty and knock fuckers off the ball.
 
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Embrace their new identity? How about not getting beat at the point of attack. Let’s start with something simple like that, you know so the QB can actually hand the ball off to the back without being tackled instantly.

Get nasty and knock fuckers off the ball.
Pretty hard for the OL to block everyone when there are 7-8 defenders stacked at the OL. In the red zone, they know Haskins isn't/can't run the ball so they jam the WRs and attack down on the RB.
 
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FILM STUDY: OHIO STATE'S RED ZONE DIFFICULTIES CAN BE SOLVED BY MORE THAN QUARTERBACK RUNS

98232_h_0.jpg


"We missed a few passes down there that we've hit (in previous weeks) ... but also, we have to be able to pound the ball and get three yards when we need to." - Ohio State offensive coordinator Ryan Day on his team's recent struggles in the red zone.

Nearly every coach will agree that the most critical element in finding success near the goal-line is a team's mentality. No matter how well prepared they may be in terms of scheme and execution, at some point, they must find the will to win a one-on-one battle with their opponent from a purely physical standpoint.

Many pundits and fans agree that this edge is missing from the Buckeye offense right now, after failing to punch the ball into the end zone on any of their five trips inside the Purdue 20-yard line two weeks ago. However, mentality and effort will only get so far with a unit that has completely changed from its 2017 form.

While OSU has seemed incapable of running the ball effectively at any point on the field recently, their struggles are magnified in the red zone once the defensive secondary no longer plays in fear of a Dwayne Haskins Deep Ball™. In the past, this extra attention from a safety playing near the line of scrimmage could be negated by the running threat of Buckeye quarterbacks like Braxton Miller or J.T. Barrett, making the team one of the nation's best at scoring touchdowns inside the 20.

With athletic backup QB Tate Martell sitting right there, a special package featuring the redshirt freshman seems to be the obvious answer to many, and one Ryan Day and the other coaches are "evaluating right now." However, such a move would require such a heavy investment in practice time to ensure Martell is prepared to do more than simply run a zone-read, that the risk may not justify the reward.

However, Day and Kevin Wilson should consider changing things up once inside the red zone. While they often use a high tempo to catch defenses off-guard down there, the schemes and personnel hardly change from what the team runs elsewhere on the field, often relying on the same, 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE) that lines up on virtually every other snap.

This is a departure from how many of their peers operate, however. According to a report from XandOLabs.com, 81% of offensive coaches have a separate plan dedicated to the red zone, with 69% saying they will vary their philosophy once there, leading many defensive coaches to not use a yard-marker to determine where the red zone begins, but rather when the offense changes their play packages.

Ohio State has regularly relied on their tight zone run to pound the ball between the tackles in this area, but that play alone does not negate the extra bodies near the line without an option element.

Per the XandOLabs.com report, the most popular run concept in the red zone is Power, which pulls the backside guard around to lead the back behind a wall of down blocks. In theory, this concept negates any extra defenders to the play-side, as the pulling guard gives the offense more blockers there and forces any unblocked backside defenders to fight through traffic before making a play.

16%3A17%20%28Power%29.png


Against Purdue, however, the backside ends were still able to crash down and make a play on the runner while the tackle blocked the linebacker.

To get the most out of this concept, the Buckeyes should consider using 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 TEs) more often. By adding an extra gap to either side of the formation, the defense's edge defenders are a few yards farther away from the play, making it harder to come downhill and chase the runner. Meanwhile, the offense still has a numbers advantage to the play-side thanks to the puller (#78 in the clip below).

5j7USAq.gif


Another way to hold these edge defenders is by leaning on Jet motion. The OSU coaches have often brought Parris Campbell across the formation at full speed, giving him a quick handoff behind a cadre of blockers around the edge.

This motion was especially effective with Barrett at the helm, as it could be used as the sweep element in the Power-Read concept that had been so effective near the goal-line. The QB read the unblocked front-side end to decide whether to give on the sweep or keep on a Power run for himself.

16%3A17%20Blast%20%28Power-Read%29.png


Since Haskins lacks the skillset to carry the ball for big yardage on such a play, the Buckeyes could take another page from the Clemson playbook and combine the Jetmotion with a regular Power run, asking the QB to simply give on one of two handoff options instead of running for himself. Though the QB does not negate a defender himself by posing a threat to run, the combination of the Jet motion and inside blocking scheme still puts the end in conflict.

HYNpzoG.gif


The same theory also applies when Ohio State wants to run Tight Zone. Instead of blocking the play for the sweep itself, simply using the motion as bait to will attract the extra defender that would otherwise gum up the box (watch #30 in the clip below).

HC7Ywvt.gif


Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...can-be-solved-by-embracing-their-new-identity


The Buckeyes currently rank 118th out of 130 teams nationally in Red Zone conversion percentage and have only scored touchdowns on 21 of their 37 trips inside the 20 this season.

Change is certainly necessary, but it doesn't have to involve substituting a likely Heisman finalist.
 
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