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2016 tOSU Really Basic Defense Discussion

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Best Guessing the Ohio State Post-Spring Depth Chart on Defense

It was a very enlightening and encouraging spring for the Buckeyes on defense. New starters were found, but just as importantly, so was depth.

Having already dived into the offensive depth chart for Ohio State, it is now time to take a closer look at the depth chart on defense for the Buckeyes following a promising and productive spring.

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Defensive End
Sam Hubbard, rSo
Jalyn Holmes, Jr
Rashod Berry, rFr

The defensive ends will rotate sides, but Jalyn Holmes started all spring long in Tyquan Lewis' injury absence. This is a talented group of pass rushers.

Defensive Tackle
Tracy Sprinkle, rJr
Jashon Cornell, rFr OR
Dre'Mont Jones, rFr
*Malik Barrow, Fr

The Buckeyes are replacing Adolphus Washington here, but based on their performances in the spring, capable hands appear to be present.

Nose Tackle
Mike Hill, rJr
Davon Hamilton, rFr OR
Robert Landers, rFr
Dylan Thompson, rSo
*Joshua Alabi

Like the other defensive tackle position, a youth movement has bolstered the depth chart, but the expectations are even higher for new starter Michael Hill.

Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...Ohio-State-Post-Spring-Depth-Chart-on-Defense
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Urban Meyer teams are built to score points in bunches and play defense from ahead. If they end up on the field for long stretches trying to slug it out with teams that run straight ahead effectively it is playing to the other teams strength and the defenses weakness.

The fact they aren't elite run stuffers is by design, being my point.
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This is really nit-picking here, but I wouldn't say it's by design - more of a conscious sacrifice. They would love to have elite run defense too, so long as we could achieve it without sacrificing the pass-rush.

What interests me most, to be honest, is how/if we're going to adapt our defense for the next time we play Alabama. Our strengths and offensive philosophy align well with Alabama's weaknesses (mobile QB, etc.), but their offense does the exact same against our defense.

It seems like Alabama has recruited enough 5* players that any trade-off between run stopping and pass-rush is effectively zero for them. I would love for us to reach that point too. We can get away with mediocre run-stopping against lower talent teams like Wiscy and Minnesota, but what happens when we play a team that has just as many (if not more) 5* recruits than we do?
 
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redguard117 said:
This is really nit-picking here, but I wouldn't say it's by design - more of a conscious sacrifice. They would love to have elite run defense too, so long as we could achieve it without sacrificing the pass-rush.

What interests me most, to be honest, is how/if we're going to adapt our defense for the next time we play Alabama. Our strengths and offensive philosophy align well with Alabama's weaknesses (mobile QB, etc.), but their offense does the exact same against our defense.

It seems like Alabama has recruited enough 5* players that any trade-off between run stopping and pass-rush is effectively zero for them. I would love for us to reach that point too. We can get away with mediocre run-stopping against lower talent teams like Wiscy and Minnesota, but what happens when we play a team that has just as many (if not more) 5* recruits than we do?
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agree 100%

styles make the fight, right? Just a matter of who imposes their style on the other.
 
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redguard117 said:
It seems like Alabama has recruited enough 5* players that any trade-off between run stopping and pass-rush is effectively zero for them. I would love for us to reach that point too. We can get away with mediocre run-stopping against lower talent teams like Wiscy and Minnesota, but what happens when we play a team that has just as many (if not more) 5* recruits than we do?
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They have the personnel to substitute but that doesn't work if a team efficiently runs the hurry up, which is why Saban whines so much about it.

Also, despite their avalanche of talent, their db play (outside of Collins) were very vulnerable on passing downs. Their ohio MLB was awful on almost all downs
 
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SPRING REWIND: WHAT WE LEARNED ABOUT OHIO STATE'S CORNERBACKS

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The torch continues to be passed in the meeting room belonging to Ohio State cornerbacks coach Kerry Coombs. Bradley Roby had it during 2013, Doran Grant grabbed it in 2014 and last season it belonged to Eli Apple.

And after spring ball concluded for the Buckeyes with last weekend’s spring game, the torch now belongs to Gareon Conley. For the fourth year in a row, there is no question who Ohio State’s No. 1 corner is entering a season. The expectations for Conley are the same as those who held that spot before him.

“It is the standard of the corner room that you are going to be in the conversation to be a first-round draft pick,” Coombs said last week. “That’s been established well before I came here and that is a tradition that we are not going to let go of.

“We talk about it freely in our room that that’s the standard and if you’re not working to that level, the question has to be why. I’m excited about the way our kids have latched onto that and absolutely that pressure should be felt in that room.”

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...what-we-learned-about-ohio-states-cornerbacks
 
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jwinslow said:
They have the personnel to substitute but that doesn't work if a team efficiently runs the hurry up, which is why Saban whines so much about it.

Also, despite their avalanche of talent, their db play (outside of Collins) were very vulnerable on passing downs. Their ohio MLB was awful on almost all downs
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That argument seemed to be nullified in the NC against Clemson. Clemson tried running a hurry up and Saban adjusted accordingly, and the game was never close. We can't keep comparing our win as it was now ions ago, Saban has adapted. Now its Urban's move
 
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Marshon Lattimore and Denzel Ward Have Earned Kerry Coombs' Confidence

There is a conveyor belt aspect to the cornerback position at Ohio State in that as one star leaves, another appears, and then another, and another, and another.

The goal for cornerbacks coach Kerry Coombs is to take those cornerbacks as they arrive and turn them into the kind of finished product that he is proud to put out on the road.

Starters come and go and it's Coombs' job to keep up with the product. He believes he is doing just that with redshirt sophomore Marshon Lattimore and true sophomore Denzel Ward, who are vying for the starting position opposite veteran Gareon Conley.

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"Well, I think Marshon and Denzel Ward played extremely well in the spring game," he said . Very, very happy with their progress. I think we’re working diligently toward our goal of not having two guys with a thousand reps, and so I think it was very encouraging on Saturday to see that they were able to go out there and perform so well."

Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...nzel-Ward-Have-Earned-Kerry-Coombs-Confidence
 
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pnuts34 said:
That argument seemed to be nullified in the NC against Clemson. Clemson tried running a hurry up and Saban adjusted accordingly, and the game was never close. We can't keep comparing our win as it was now ions ago, Saban has adapted. Now its Urban's move
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The game was never close even though Clemson was winning after 3 quarters? Special teams is what won the game for Alabama. A KO Return for a TD and the well timed onside kick is what the difference is.

Clemson's offense put up 550 yards. The same problems plagued Alabama's defense. Their special teams came up big.
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
Clemson's offense put up 550 yards. The same problems plagued Alabama's defense. Their special teams came up big.
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Reading this just pisses me off that we didn't get the chance to run all over Bama again...plus the fact that our defense was playing solid. No doubt in my mind that we put up 42+ on Bama and beat them again had we had the chance...
 
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