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bukIpower
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Honestly I'm OK with total shit weather... Over the last few years we've had a number of games were we couldn't get anything done through the air but managed to rush for 300 to get the win. Honestly I would be shocked if we came out and somehow were clicking on all cylinders throwing the ball . Wisconsin is not the game to be trying to work on the pass game. Id be pumped for a 280 rushing and 180-200 passing providing it's efficient and with no turnovers. Just get back to being efficient and deadly throwing.
I know Wisconsin is built for the run but no one runs the ball like we do. If it comes down to running the ball and winning the LOS I don't see how they can get much done.
Also I never get the myth that the rain makes us slow but somehow it doesn't hurt the other team. Yes it slows us down but it also slows the other team down too so we are back were we started which is we still will have the speed advantage.
I know Wisconsin is built for the run but no one runs the ball like we do. If it comes down to running the ball and winning the LOS I don't see how they can get much done.
Also I never get the myth that the rain makes us slow but somehow it doesn't hurt the other team. Yes it slows us down but it also slows the other team down too so we are back were we started which is we still will have the speed advantage.
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Their next closest wins that year were by 23 points (44-21 at Colorado) and by 24 points (49-25 vs Kansas State). Their other nine wins that year (including the Fiesta Bowl over Florida for the national title) were by 37+ points. As you pointed out, even a team as absolutely dominant as they were has a shitty win thrown in...
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Rain and wind on field turf just bit us in the ass not too long ago.
Let's hope they have learned from that because you are going to have to play in bad weather in the B1G
Let's hope they have learned from that because you are going to have to play in bad weather in the B1G
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greyscarlet
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Agreed. Bad weather levels talent to some degree. Clearly shiftiness becomes devalued and any speed gap is narrowed.
The play calling and player targets must reflect all conditions.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
DESPITE FACING A TOP-RANKED DEFENSE, OHIO STATE HAS NO PLANS TO CHANGE WHAT IT DOES OFFENSIVELY AGAINST WISCONSIN
On Monday, Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer called his team’s opponent Saturday a ‘typical Wisconsin’ team.
It was meant as a compliment, of course. The Badgers are who they are and they don’t change their style for anybody. Despite some recent coaching turnover, Wisconsin has remained the same. The Badgers play a grind-it-out style on offense and have a tough, physical defense. It's always been that way.
But if you were expecting Ohio State to change at all heading into Saturday’s showdown between the pair of top-10 teams, well, prepare to be disappointed. The Buckeyes don’t plan on changing either in this big-time matchup, especially on offense.
There will be some minor tweaks, sure, but expect Ohio State to try and do what it normally does, too.
“They’re going to stack the box, but we’re still going to do what we do. We’re not going to shy away because they put people in the box,” Buckeyes junior H-back Curtis Samuel said after Wednesday’s practice. “If they’re going to put people in the box, we’re just going to run it right down their throat and do what we’ve gotta do out there.”
And, to be fair, why would Ohio State’s offense change much?
Sure, Wisconsin has the 11th-ranked defense in the country (291.4 yards per game) and the Big Ten’s top-ranked run defense (90.4 ypg.), but the Buckeyes are pretty potent on offense themselves.
Ohio State is going to come out like it always does and try to establish a punishing ground game and go from there.
“We’re not going to change nothing that we do,” Samuel said.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ge-what-it-does-offensively-against-wisconsin
On Monday, Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer called his team’s opponent Saturday a ‘typical Wisconsin’ team.
It was meant as a compliment, of course. The Badgers are who they are and they don’t change their style for anybody. Despite some recent coaching turnover, Wisconsin has remained the same. The Badgers play a grind-it-out style on offense and have a tough, physical defense. It's always been that way.
But if you were expecting Ohio State to change at all heading into Saturday’s showdown between the pair of top-10 teams, well, prepare to be disappointed. The Buckeyes don’t plan on changing either in this big-time matchup, especially on offense.
There will be some minor tweaks, sure, but expect Ohio State to try and do what it normally does, too.
“They’re going to stack the box, but we’re still going to do what we do. We’re not going to shy away because they put people in the box,” Buckeyes junior H-back Curtis Samuel said after Wednesday’s practice. “If they’re going to put people in the box, we’re just going to run it right down their throat and do what we’ve gotta do out there.”
And, to be fair, why would Ohio State’s offense change much?
Sure, Wisconsin has the 11th-ranked defense in the country (291.4 yards per game) and the Big Ten’s top-ranked run defense (90.4 ypg.), but the Buckeyes are pretty potent on offense themselves.
Ohio State is going to come out like it always does and try to establish a punishing ground game and go from there.
“We’re not going to change nothing that we do,” Samuel said.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ge-what-it-does-offensively-against-wisconsin
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
TIM BECK, URBAN MEYER SEE J.T. BARRETT AND OHIO STATE'S PASS GAME WITH SENSE OF URGENCY AFTER 'SLAP IN THE FACE' FROM INDIANA
Both Tim Beck and Urban Meyer said there is not one person or position that should shoulder the blame the way Ohio State's passing game struggled in its 38-17 victory against Indiana last Saturday.
“Everybody took their turn of course in the game. It's just one of those things you have to keep working on. It's about timing, it's about spacing,” Beck said on Wednesday after practice. “Last week just wasn't acceptable. We weren't clicking all the way. We've got to be better, no question.”
But that won't keep quarterback J.T. Barrett from taking the lead—as he often does—when things are not running as smoothly as they were in the first four games of the season. The quarterback threw 14 touchdown passes against only two interceptions with passer ratings north of 120 in victories against Bowling Green, Tulsa, Oklahoma and Rutgers. Against the Hoosiers, though, Barrett completed just 9-of-21 throws for 93 yards, one score and an interception.
“He wants to win. If he's 9-of-21 or he throws seven touchdowns, it really doesn't matter. As long as we get that 'W' and move on to the next game for him,” Beck said. “I think he's also smart enough to realize we need that element to be able to keep moving on. He's done a great job this week with our younger players to be able to stress the importance of it.”
Barrett illustrated that point on Monday, saying he didn't care that he ran the ball 26 times, which was two more carries than running back Mike Weber and H-back Curtis Samuel had combined.
“I do what it takes to win,” Barrett said. “If that means I run the ball 26 times in order for us to win by 21 points, by golly you best believe I'm going to do that.”
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...-sense-of-urgency-after-slap-in-the-face-from
Both Tim Beck and Urban Meyer said there is not one person or position that should shoulder the blame the way Ohio State's passing game struggled in its 38-17 victory against Indiana last Saturday.
“Everybody took their turn of course in the game. It's just one of those things you have to keep working on. It's about timing, it's about spacing,” Beck said on Wednesday after practice. “Last week just wasn't acceptable. We weren't clicking all the way. We've got to be better, no question.”
But that won't keep quarterback J.T. Barrett from taking the lead—as he often does—when things are not running as smoothly as they were in the first four games of the season. The quarterback threw 14 touchdown passes against only two interceptions with passer ratings north of 120 in victories against Bowling Green, Tulsa, Oklahoma and Rutgers. Against the Hoosiers, though, Barrett completed just 9-of-21 throws for 93 yards, one score and an interception.
“He wants to win. If he's 9-of-21 or he throws seven touchdowns, it really doesn't matter. As long as we get that 'W' and move on to the next game for him,” Beck said. “I think he's also smart enough to realize we need that element to be able to keep moving on. He's done a great job this week with our younger players to be able to stress the importance of it.”
Barrett illustrated that point on Monday, saying he didn't care that he ran the ball 26 times, which was two more carries than running back Mike Weber and H-back Curtis Samuel had combined.
“I do what it takes to win,” Barrett said. “If that means I run the ball 26 times in order for us to win by 21 points, by golly you best believe I'm going to do that.”
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...-sense-of-urgency-after-slap-in-the-face-from
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bukIpower
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I wonder if they've ever thought about playing Noah Brown more so when we get inside the 30's? I get that he's a great blocker but I do feel he's just not as explosive as he will be once he's truly 100%.
Where Noah is great is using his body and high pointing the ball and his size near the goal line is still a major asset to the offense. However I'd like to see more of Paris, Dixon, Clark, and especially Dontre when we need the threats to take the top off.
When we put Baugh in which is all the time and we also line up with Weber/Brown that's 3 of the 5 skill positions that aren't going to challenge a team deep. Which enables teams to identify and take away the deep ball to people like a Campbell or Samuel. More importantly it does things like enables a team to crash the run and clog up throwing lanes near the LOS.
Although Gibson was said to be fighting for playing time I truly believe he was set to have a big year vertically as well as in the wildcat. Really was bummed when he got suspended and IMO it made just a smidge easier to contain.
Where Noah is great is using his body and high pointing the ball and his size near the goal line is still a major asset to the offense. However I'd like to see more of Paris, Dixon, Clark, and especially Dontre when we need the threats to take the top off.
When we put Baugh in which is all the time and we also line up with Weber/Brown that's 3 of the 5 skill positions that aren't going to challenge a team deep. Which enables teams to identify and take away the deep ball to people like a Campbell or Samuel. More importantly it does things like enables a team to crash the run and clog up throwing lanes near the LOS.
Although Gibson was said to be fighting for playing time I truly believe he was set to have a big year vertically as well as in the wildcat. Really was bummed when he got suspended and IMO it made just a smidge easier to contain.
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Poe McKnoe
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I know the defense really plays off of being called Basic. Maybe the offense can utilize the same motivation?
In the first quarter, the short passing game was working with no issues, on both called plays and on check downs. Anything outside of this could not happen because of the pressure on Barrett, either from Wisconsin's front or blitzes. The problem was the LB blitzes were coming from 2 yards from the line of scrimmage. These were not hidden. Wisconsin rightfully decided to take out Ohio State's option game and they were often successful. Ohio State took its first shot "downfield" with 11:53 left in the second, on a ball that was late and underthrown; Wilson did a good job of taking the CB and the Safety away from the play.
Marcus Baugh is a down the field TE and doesn't have the quickness to run flat routes man to man. Strangely, they bubbled him out from the slot, with no blockers, him and Samuel just standing around. Ironically, this is the play Baugh made a huge catch on the scramble.
Regarding plays to make the defense pay for overcommitting to the box, they did call 1 fake WR bubble screen which turned into a QB power. Wilson often motioned into the backfield and ended up a decoy, but a decoy that never gets the ball is basically just a wasted player. Wisconsin basically said, "forget the window dressings" and wanted to control every play that put the ball in the box, whether it was triple options, read options, sprints, whatever. Samuel got the ball on at least 1 jet sweep and got tackled in the backfield because the safety recognized the sweep, and of course Samuel is going to get it on the sweep. 5 WRs after a time out likely means OSU will likely run a QB draw, regardless of position on the field or situation.
I don't see the complaints about the WRs. They are decent to good route runners, but there's nothing overly complicated about the routes they're being asked to run. I just don't see the complaints, outside of the drops on the downfield throws. Can't get separation? When? Where? Against a zone? There's receivers open, but JT is either missing them or doesn't see them. Are they 100% there yet? I don't think so, and they need to give that 110% every down.
Meyer obviously loves power runs with the QB. He hearts them. That's his Dave. We've reconciled with this. Now what you need to do is develop plays that complement this. I see what Warinner wants to do. He wants to be Kansas circa 2007. There's nothing to help JT Barrett be a successful running QB, the pressure is in the box. They've even made promos featuring JT as the "distributor" so let him do it. Use the field, but better yet, use those window dressings. It's like Warinner and Beck are trying to include the same formations and window dressings as Tom Herman did, but never actually utilize the purpose of being in those formations. If Dontre or Samuel ALWAYS motions into the backfield and never gets the ball, you've lost one of those so called numbers advantage you're hoping to gain.
Yes, this manifesto comes after a win. A damn good game. Against a damn good defense. A damn good defense that gave Ohio State ways to beat it by not being balanced.
If you have individual groups playing well, but failing to play together, that's on the Coach and the OC. There's a reason Barrett put up record stats in 2014. He knew what to do when he needed. He knew what to expect. He's indecisive this year, and timing is making it worse. That's on the QB Coach. He's a very very good QB, but he can't overcome the deficiencies this offense is giving itself, not unlike last year.
Or wait, maybe he can like Saturday night.
In the first quarter, the short passing game was working with no issues, on both called plays and on check downs. Anything outside of this could not happen because of the pressure on Barrett, either from Wisconsin's front or blitzes. The problem was the LB blitzes were coming from 2 yards from the line of scrimmage. These were not hidden. Wisconsin rightfully decided to take out Ohio State's option game and they were often successful. Ohio State took its first shot "downfield" with 11:53 left in the second, on a ball that was late and underthrown; Wilson did a good job of taking the CB and the Safety away from the play.
Marcus Baugh is a down the field TE and doesn't have the quickness to run flat routes man to man. Strangely, they bubbled him out from the slot, with no blockers, him and Samuel just standing around. Ironically, this is the play Baugh made a huge catch on the scramble.
Regarding plays to make the defense pay for overcommitting to the box, they did call 1 fake WR bubble screen which turned into a QB power. Wilson often motioned into the backfield and ended up a decoy, but a decoy that never gets the ball is basically just a wasted player. Wisconsin basically said, "forget the window dressings" and wanted to control every play that put the ball in the box, whether it was triple options, read options, sprints, whatever. Samuel got the ball on at least 1 jet sweep and got tackled in the backfield because the safety recognized the sweep, and of course Samuel is going to get it on the sweep. 5 WRs after a time out likely means OSU will likely run a QB draw, regardless of position on the field or situation.
I don't see the complaints about the WRs. They are decent to good route runners, but there's nothing overly complicated about the routes they're being asked to run. I just don't see the complaints, outside of the drops on the downfield throws. Can't get separation? When? Where? Against a zone? There's receivers open, but JT is either missing them or doesn't see them. Are they 100% there yet? I don't think so, and they need to give that 110% every down.
Meyer obviously loves power runs with the QB. He hearts them. That's his Dave. We've reconciled with this. Now what you need to do is develop plays that complement this. I see what Warinner wants to do. He wants to be Kansas circa 2007. There's nothing to help JT Barrett be a successful running QB, the pressure is in the box. They've even made promos featuring JT as the "distributor" so let him do it. Use the field, but better yet, use those window dressings. It's like Warinner and Beck are trying to include the same formations and window dressings as Tom Herman did, but never actually utilize the purpose of being in those formations. If Dontre or Samuel ALWAYS motions into the backfield and never gets the ball, you've lost one of those so called numbers advantage you're hoping to gain.
Yes, this manifesto comes after a win. A damn good game. Against a damn good defense. A damn good defense that gave Ohio State ways to beat it by not being balanced.
If you have individual groups playing well, but failing to play together, that's on the Coach and the OC. There's a reason Barrett put up record stats in 2014. He knew what to do when he needed. He knew what to expect. He's indecisive this year, and timing is making it worse. That's on the QB Coach. He's a very very good QB, but he can't overcome the deficiencies this offense is giving itself, not unlike last year.
Or wait, maybe he can like Saturday night.
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