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2015 TSUN News

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MililaniBuckeye said:
We had "split" titles in 1954 (AP) and 1957 (UPI), but I'll be God-damned if I count those as split titles. Michigan was recognized as national champions in 1997 by three (AP, NFF, FWAA) of the four recognized entities, so let them count it as a national title. You can refuse to accept it if you like, but they do have a valid national title that season. Sucks for them, though, that it's the only one they have since 1948...
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Most everyone here was alive in 1997

I don't know anyone who used the NFF or FWAA polls. I'm not sure I have ever even seen them.

It was AP and Coaches poll back then and it was a split title when your team wasn't voted #1 in both

Just like GT and Colorado split the NC in 1990 then Washington and Miami split it in 1991
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Most everyone here was alive in 1997

I don't know anyone who used the NFF or FWAA polls. I'm not sure I have ever even seen them.

It was AP and Coaches poll back then and it was a split title when your team wasn't voted #1 in both

Just like GT and Colorado split the NC in 1990 then Washington and Miami split it in 1991
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You take that back. I'll share that with those 5th down cheaters over buzz's cold dead body.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Most everyone here was alive in 1997

I don't know anyone who used the NFF or FWAA polls.
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Careful Jax, "The 1961 Ohio State Buckeyes football team represented the Ohio State University in the college football season of 1961-1962. The Buckeyes compiled an 8–0–1 record. They were awarded the FWAA national championship by the Football Writers Association of America."
 
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cincibuck said:
Careful Jax, "The 1961 Ohio State Buckeyes football team represented the Ohio State University in the college football season of 1961-1962. The Buckeyes compiled an 8–0–1 record. They were awarded the FWAA national championship by the Football Writers Association of America."
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I think Jax's point was that no one paid attention to the FWAA in '96 (or even knew it existed, for that matter), and what was used 36 years earlier is a different question entirely.
 
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cincibuck said:
Careful Jax, "The 1961 Ohio State Buckeyes football team represented the Ohio State University in the college football season of 1961-1962. The Buckeyes compiled an 8–0–1 record. They were awarded the FWAA national championship by the Football Writers Association of America."
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If the FWAA poll was the standard of the day then fine if was as obscure then as it was in 1997 then I say blame the faculty vote for not allowing OSU to play in the Rose Bowl and costing them a likely NC.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If the FWAA poll was the standard of the day then fine if was as obscure then as it was in 1997 then I say blame the faculty vote for not allowing OSU to play in the Rose Bowl and costing them a likely NC.
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My point was that FWWA is the basis for one of OSU's claimed NCs. If we don't accept it as a valid measure in 97 then we have no basis to accept it as valid in 61.

The 61 team was loaded with guys who kicked ass and took names. Nothing subtle beyond , we're going off tackle. Think you can stop us?
 
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Wanna fun stat? The kind of stat that just makes you laugh uncontrollably when reminiscing about the Hoke years? A stat that can get you through the offseason? Then this one is for you. I ran across UM's 2015 RB depth chart, and thought to myself, "My God this team is a clown show!" The stats back me up, so I'll let them speak for themselves:

UM's four non-freshmen RBs over their entire careers (7 collective seasons; 50 combined games). This includes former 5*s Ty Isaac and Derrick Green (who we all remember fondly), former 4* DeVeon Smith, and former 3* Drake Johnson: 401 carries for 1984 yards (4.95 ypc) and 17 TDs

Ezekiel Elliott's 2014 season (15 games): 273 carries for 1878 yards (6.88 ypc) and 18 TDs

So with 128 fewer carries and 35 fewer games, Elliott has matched the combined careers of UM's entire backfield! People who think Harbaugh can turn around this dumpster-fire of a team around quickly are sorely mistaken.
 
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