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Game Thread 2015 Sugar Bowl: (1) Alabama vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 1st @ 8:30p ET, ESPN (civilized thread)

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Enduro R said:
That's why it will never go to 8. Not everyone deserves a trophy. If your conference isn't good and you are the champion of said conference why should you get a shot? Simply because that team is the champs of a dumpster fire? Plus, if it were to ever get to 8 teams, the play would be relegated to home turfs at school stadiums until it gets down to 4. The most it should ever get is maybe 6 with 1 and 2 getting a bye. No one wants this to be divisional play. The entire purpose to play the top two teams. Those can be clearly picked from 4. You think FSU is a top 2 team? No way. Not the way they played. Thats why they have turned down joining the SEC multiple times. If they stay there, they stand a good chance of being conference chanps year in and year out.
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Personally I see 6 as the magic number. 3,4,5 and 6 play each other with 3 and 4 getting home games. Then a reseed for the final four.
 
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SECorBust said:
That's sort of what happened a few times with Eddie Jackson against Auburn, he was a little bit out of phase and had his head turned back. I think he was trying to see if Auburn was coming with an outside run that he could help on. They are one of the fastest teams to the edge and that has caused trouble before. Does OSU have many first round receivers? Devin Smith? I think both Coates and Duke Williams are better receivers.
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Devin is a 2nd-4th rounder, depending on how teams feel about his strong measurables vs his all around Game. Thomas is a mid rounder eventually. Marshall is very talented but hard to judge as he is more of an athlete so far (though he does not struggle at wr).

I think auburn's top 2 are definitely better. I did not see the same depth at the other spots that Bama will see from osu. Especially since Smith is a slot wr on many passing plays.
 
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Too much positivity and realistic debating in this thread.

I hope we beat you by 232 points and Saban becomes the head coach of Auburn. :lol:

But honestly, this is the direction that the main discussion thread should have gone. I'm hoping for a clean game with no injuries for either side.

Word on the street is that a few of our guys have been heavy on the bar scene lately. I'm praying nothing stupid happens and they don't pack the holiday weight on before the game. Need to be lean and mean. I'm glad they're having fun, just hope they play it safe and smart.
 
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Gcashwell said:
When I was trying to google the answer, I found a few places that said it was expected that OSU would be more ready next year, so I thought that was the case.

The thinking prior to this season here in Alabama was that this year was a reloading year and next year would be a title hunt year, just like you guys.

We very well may get to do this all again next year!
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The other part is that almost everyone returns next year. Below is the current depth chart with the departing kids in bold.

QB rFr Barrett, rSo Jones, rJr Miller
RB so Elliott, fr Samuel, rSo Dunn
WR sr Smith, rSo Thomas, rFr Marshall, Sr Spencer, so Wilson, jr Smith, fr Dixon
TE sr Heuerman, rJr Gannett
LT jr Decker, fr Jones
LG rFr Price, hs sr Burrell
OC rJr Boren, ??
RG rSo Elflein, rFr Lisle
RT sr Baldwin, rJr Farris

DE so Bosa, rFr Lewis, fr Holmes
DT sr Bennett , jr Schutt
DT jr Washington, rFr Munger
DE sr Frazier, sr Miller
LB rFr Lee, rFr Worley
MLB Sr Grant, fr McMillan
LB Jr Perry, fr Booker
CB Sr Grant, jr Reeves
FS rSo Powell, fr Smith
SS so Bell, so Burrows
CB rFr Apple, rFr Conley
P so Johnston
K fr Neuernberger
Ret rFr Marshall
 
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jwinslow said:
The other part is that almost everyone returns next year. Below is the current depth chart with the departing kids in bold.

QB rFr Barrett, rSo Jones, rJr Miller
RB so Elliott, fr Samuel, rSo Dunn
WR sr Smith, rSo Thomas, rFr Marshall, so Wilson, jr Smith, fr Dixon
TE sr Heuerman, rJr Gannett
LT jr Decker, fr Jones
LG rFr Price, hs sr Burrell
OC rJr Boren, ??
RG rSo Elflein, rFr Lisle
RT sr Baldwin, rJr Farris

DE so Bosa, rFr Lewis, fr Holmes
DT sr Bennett , jr Schutt
DT jr Washington, rFr Munger
DE sr Frazier, sr Miller
LB rFr Lee, rFr Worley
MLB Sr Grant, fr McMillan
LB Jr Perry, fr Booker
CB Sr Grant, jr Reeves
FS rSo Powell, fr Smith
SS so Bell, so Burrows
CB rFr Apple, rFr Conley
P so Johnston
K fr Neuernberger
Ret rFr Marshall
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SloopyHangOn said:
Thomas is better in space than going up on 50/50 balls regardless of his height. His acceleration from 0 is what makes him dangerous.

If it becomes a game of jump balls it'll be Devin Smith that gets targeted. Dude has the best hands on the team, imo.
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...and he's a high jumper. Rumor is he wears two extra pair of sox as well.
 
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jwinslow said:
The other part is that almost everyone returns next year. Below is the current depth chart with the departing kids in bold.

QB rFr Barrett, rSo Jones, rJr Miller
RB so Elliott, fr Samuel, rSo Dunn
WR sr Smith, rSo Thomas, rFr Marshall, so Wilson, jr Smith, fr Dixon
TE sr Heuerman, rJr Gannett
LT jr Decker, fr Jones
LG rFr Price, hs sr Burrell
OC rJr Boren, ??
RG rSo Elflein, rFr Lisle
RT sr Baldwin, rJr Farris

DE so Bosa, rFr Lewis, fr Holmes
DT sr Bennett , jr Schutt
DT jr Washington, rFr Munger
DE sr Frazier, sr Miller
LB rFr Lee, rFr Worley
MLB Sr Grant, fr McMillan
LB Jr Perry, fr Booker
CB Sr Grant, jr Reeves
FS rSo Powell, fr Smith
SS so Bell, so Burrows
CB rFr Apple, rFr Conley
P so Johnston
K fr Neuernberger
Ret rFr Marshall
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I think you're missing Evan Spencer, but otherwise yea. Returning a shit ton. Basically 7.5/11 on both sides of the ball for the starting lineup. 7 or 8 depending on how you see it. RaeKwon is a guy that plays half the game. And at receiver you have smith, spencer, Thomas and Marshall with 3 of those guys considered starters.
 
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Enduro R said:
That's my thoughts exactly. Plus, regular fans cant afford to go to 3 different bowl games in one season. It's hard enough going to one a year. For me at least.
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I think 6 is probably the best compromise, but most years there is far too much parity to award #1 and #2 with the enormous advantage of a first round BYE unless there is a computer doing the rankings. If it were to play out the way it would this year I think it would work, but I feel this year is more of an outlier than the norm.

I'd also have 3/5 play to face 1 and 4/6 play to face 2 rather than the usual 3/6-1 and 4/5-2 match-ups, because of the parity, and to counter some of the advantage of the BYE week for overall #1.

So this year would've been:

#1 Bama - Bye
#3 FSU vs. #5 Baylor (@Tallahassee)

#2 Oregon - Bye
#4 Ohio State vs. #6 TCU (@Columbus)

Last year would've been:

#1 FSU - Bye
#3 Alabama vs. #5 Stanford (@Tuscaloosa)

#2 Auburn - Bye
#4 Michigan State vs. #6 Baylor (@East Lansing)

Controversial 2004 would've been:

#1 USC - Bye
#3 Auburn vs. #5 Cal (@Auburn)

#2 Oklahoma - Bye
#4 Texas vs. #6 Utah (@Austin)

Those all sound like outstanding playoffs that include everyone necessary and don't leave any contenders out.

But that's another topic all together.
 
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Enduro R said:
This is just a guess because I certainly do not claim to have watched every tOSU game this year. Tidefan1 hit it on the head. The QB was more apt to run under Barrett. You can't afford to lose #3. My guess is they(OSU coaches) will not let your QB run too much. It will be designed read option to the tail back and play action passes. My perception of your team with Barrett was very, very close to AU. Barrett being a better QB than AU's.
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Remember Cardale Jones is 250 pounds. He won't go down easily and won't get hurt easily. And if he does get hurt, one of the fastest players on OSU's team is 4th string QB (Jalin Marshall). He's been taking snaps this week. Also Stephen Collier has been practicing all year. He's currently under redshirt, so while we hope to not use him, he's a possibility still.
 
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Coqui said:
Remember Cardale Jones is 250 pounds. He won't go down easily and won't get hurt easily. And if he does get hurt, one of the fastest players on OSU's team is 4th string QB (Jalin Marshall). He's been taking snaps this week. Also Stephen Collier has been practicing all year. He's currently under redshirt, so while we hope to not use him, he's a possibility still.
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I'm thinking you don't want to get to the 4th string QB in this game...
 
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Coqui said:
Remember Cardale Jones is 250 pounds. He won't go down easily and won't get hurt easily. And if he does get hurt, one of the fastest players on OSU's team is 4th string QB (Jalin Marshall). He's been taking snaps this week. Also Stephen Collier has been practicing all year. He's currently under redshirt, so while we hope to not use him, he's a possibility still.
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Our team is built more toward taking care of the big guys. It's the smaller, quicker QB that gives us fits. Mariota (sp?) comes to mind. Saban builds his defense around the LSU's and Georgia's of the world. Not the Oregonians. He seems to be able to scheme enough against the read option just enough to give us a fighting chance.
 
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