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Game Thread 2015 Sugar Bowl: (1) Alabama vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 1st @ 8:30p ET, ESPN (civilized thread)

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SECorBust said:
We're at 15 since that ND game a couple years ago...
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5 of which are fake....is his point.

http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/457424?referrer_id=878183
In 1941, Alabama went 9-2 with shutout losses to Mississippi State and Vanderbilt and finished behind four other Southeastern Conference teams in the final AP poll. Yet, while the major human polls declared unbeaten Minnesota the champion for the second straight year, a formula known as the Houlgate System spit out the Crimson Tide as No. 1.

For one school official four decades later, that was enough. Former Alabama sports information director Wayne Atcheson decided in the 1980s that the 1941 team and four other pre-Bear Bryant era squads should be formally recognized as champions, raising the Crimson Tide’s title count from six to 11.

“I made the change because coach Bryant had these 25 years and six national championships and they were emphasized so much,” Atcheson later told the Birmingham News. “It was on all the stationery. And when I got there, it was a matter of seeing there were five others [before Bryant] and we should put them all together. ... I tried to make Alabama football look the best it could look and just make it as great as it could possibly be.

"I was a competitor myself with the other schools, and what they bragged about and boasted about. I wanted people to know the best about my school."
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Maybe. Hard to say. I just know that when Ohio State scheduled a FCS team it's taken them some 8 years to live it down. Bama sometimes schedules two of em in a single season... crickets.
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Which was done to keep money in the state and give the players a chance to play in The Shoe.

Exactly why Bama schedules UAB every year, right? Oh, never mind.
 
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That Tennecheat game still pisses me off to this day. They had a decided advantage wearing illegal spikes. Bull fucking shit.

Also - those aren't all bowl games. We got LSU somehow to come to Columbus and beat them.
 
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Quickly went through and grabbed some stats from some of the bigger games and RBs on each team's schedule (8 a piece). First number is the average ypc for the game against Alabama/Ohio State. The second number is their average ypc for the season. Best way to view this is to quickly look down the left column and get a rough average of what the team's defense gives up on avg. Then compare each number side by side to see how often that RB gets close to his seasonal avg. A * denotes if he is above his seasonal avg. This doesn't necessarily mean anything for this game, but if you found the post interesting then "like" the post below. Thx.

WVU
Shell – 3.9 – 4.7
Smith - 3.0- 5.7
Ole Miss
Walton 3.5 – 5.9
Arky
Williams – 4.2 – 5.8
Collins – 2.2 -5.5
Tenn
Hurd – 3.7 – 4.5
LSU
Fournette – 3.8 – 5.1
Magee – 2.4 – 5.2
Mizzou –
Hansborough – 1.6 – 5.1
Murphy – 2.9 – 4.6
Miss St
Robinson – 3.1 – 6.4
AU –
Payne – 3.1 – 5.4
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Va tech
Willimams – 1.7 -3.8
Mich St
Langford – 7.6 – 5.5 *
Penn St
Lynch – 2.9 – 4.6
Belton – 0.9 – 4.2
Minnesota
Cobb – 5.4 – 5. 3 *
Indiana
Coleman- 8.4 – 7.5 *
Maryland
Ross- 4.8 – 4.9
Wisconsin
Gordon – 2.9 – 7.6
Michigan
Johnson – 4.9 – 6.0
 
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beau said:
My opinion:
Coaching: Push
Running game: Push
Passing game: ALA
OL: Advantage OSU
DL: Advantage ALA
Secondary: OSU
LB: ALA
Kicking game: Push
Run defense: Push
Pass defense: OSU
QB: Alabama
Receivers: Alabama
Strength of schedule: Alabama
Prediction: Alabama 27 Ohio State 23
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I like this format - I'll play!

Coaching: Push
Running game: Push
Passing game: ALA -- (TBD, I guess?)
OL: Push
DL: Push
Secondary: Push
LB: ALA
Kicking game: Push
Run defense: ALA
Pass defense: Push
QB: Alabama -- (TBD, I guess?)
Receivers: Push (with a big nod to Cooper as being way better than anyone OSU has seen)
Strength of schedule: Alabama
Prediction: Alabama 37 Ohio State 17

I'm obviously a little more bearish on the Bucks than some of my fellows posters. Sign me up for next year when the team is one year more experienced.

That 59-0 whipping was beautiful, but that doesn't erase those defensive struggles against IU, Minnehaha, and *ichigan. Can the d-line continue to play responsibly or will they revert to some of the over-pursuit we have seen? Can the LB's fill the correct lanes like they did against Bucky or do we see more "two guys, one gap" that is so hard to watch. Will the safeties be able to make the touchdown-saving tackle the one or two times they have to or will they take terrible angles again?

I also didn't come away from the Wisconsin game feeling as good about the offense as others -- too much reliance on big plays for my taste. I don't see Smith winning those jump balls against better corners -- I can't think of many other 50/50 balls that he has won, so I'm counting it as a fluke. And I'm still a skeptic in regards to Jones -- as good as he looked, he took a number of negative yardage plays and I don't think this team can play from behind the sticks against Bama. I believe the key to the game is Jones being able to hit enough of the 10-15 yard throws to keep Bama honest and let the Bucks run. I don't believe he can do it.

I hope to be proven horribly wrong.

(Ha, you ass-butts! The rep system is GONE, so you homers can't even ding me for this. Suck it!)
 
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