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Game Thread 2015 Sugar Bowl: (1) Alabama vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 1st @ 8:30p ET, ESPN (civilized thread)
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Was perusing around YouTube and watched portion of a clip of Finebaum Film Room of the Sugar Bowl, and they flashed this stat right after we scored at the end of the half:
I had no idea we had lost 20 straight when trailing by 14+ points at any time during the game. Key word is "had"...
I had no idea we had lost 20 straight when trailing by 14+ points at any time during the game. Key word is "had"...
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Larry A. Johnson@R2X_Rushmen
It's moments like this that affirm why we do what we do! Great memory of the #Rushmen after beating Bama! #R2X
Larry A. Johnson@R2X_RushmenIt's moments like this that affirm why we do what we do! Great memory of the #Rushmen after beating Bama! #R2X
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Old article...
Ohio Against The World: The story behind the Sugar Bowl sensation
De'Nard Pinckney (far right) sports the Ohio Against The World sweatshirt with siblings (left to right) Bernard, Danee and JJ at the Razzoo Bar and Patio on Bourbon Street after the Buckeyes' Sugar Bowl victory.
Entire article: http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story...ugar-bowl-ohio-against-the-world-shirt-010815
Current 11W article...
THE SITUATIONAL: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT
Once upon a time the state of Ohio saved America from itself.
The Civil War - despite ending 150 years ago - is still being fought by some of our citizens for various bad reasons that converge on a regionally-bastardized and creative misrepresentation of history. Nevertheless, however you choose to remember the 19th century - real or imagined - it is undeniable that America emerged from her historical low point with considerable credit going to our nation's 17th state.
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THE PATRIOT
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-.../06/55259/the-situational-love-it-or-leave-it
Ohio Against The World: The story behind the Sugar Bowl sensation
De'Nard Pinckney (far right) sports the Ohio Against The World sweatshirt with siblings (left to right) Bernard, Danee and JJ at the Razzoo Bar and Patio on Bourbon Street after the Buckeyes' Sugar Bowl victory.
Entire article: http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story...ugar-bowl-ohio-against-the-world-shirt-010815
Current 11W article...
THE SITUATIONAL: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT
Once upon a time the state of Ohio saved America from itself.
The Civil War - despite ending 150 years ago - is still being fought by some of our citizens for various bad reasons that converge on a regionally-bastardized and creative misrepresentation of history. Nevertheless, however you choose to remember the 19th century - real or imagined - it is undeniable that America emerged from her historical low point with considerable credit going to our nation's 17th state.
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THE PATRIOT
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-.../06/55259/the-situational-love-it-or-leave-it
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
UA's Kirby Smart reflects on playoff loss to Ohio State
Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart sat down with 680 The Fan on Monday and discussed the Crimson Tide's loss to the Ohio State Buckeyes in the first-ever College Football Playoff. The Buckeyes defeated Alabama by a score of 42-35, and Smart attributed Ohio State's quarterback situation as one of the main reason the Crimson Tide defense struggled.
“I’ve coached about 15 years – it was the most different situation we’ve ever had because of the quarterback situation,” Smart said. “So you’ve got one quarterback on tape (Braxton Miller), then you’ve got another quarterback on tape (J.T. Barrett), then you’ve got one game on the quarterback (Cardale Jones). And looking back, we have exit interviews with our players, and when you look in hindsight, I asked every kid, Landon Collins, Nick Perry, Jarrick Williams, the really smart seniors on our team, I said ‘Where did we go wrong? What did we do wrong?’
“All three of them said they did not respect the quarterback, and our job as the coaches was to make them respect the quarterback. Well they heard from the media, they heard from ESPN, they heard from everybody that he was a third-string quarterback. How can a third-string quarterback beat Alabama? We didn’t promote him enough and they didn’t value his talents enough, and he came in – we thought he was a really good passer, well he ran the ball well, too. We had not seen him run the ball – and not a runner like Blake (Sims) and not a runner like their other guy, just big.
“This guy was just lumbering and big and ran through arm tackles, even on our big, physical defense.”
Smart also said the heavy dosage of running back Ezekiel Elliott, mixed with Jones' surprising play, had a lot to do with the uncharacteristic play from his Alabama defense. And he knew in the early goings of the contest that it would be a long night.
“I knew early,” Smart said. “See, everybody’s talking about the score, we were leading, but we weren’t leading. We had not slowed them down. We had two red area stops, which were six points, could have been 14. We had a turnover, we stripped the ball. We had not slowed them down, and I’m thinking this could be 21 but it’s six, 21-6, could be 21-21. And then hey score right before the half, which we thought was deadly. They had a good two-minute drive and scored, and I knew we were in trouble.”
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Entire article: http://alabama.247sports.com/Bolt/U...8023769?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart sat down with 680 The Fan on Monday and discussed the Crimson Tide's loss to the Ohio State Buckeyes in the first-ever College Football Playoff. The Buckeyes defeated Alabama by a score of 42-35, and Smart attributed Ohio State's quarterback situation as one of the main reason the Crimson Tide defense struggled.
“I’ve coached about 15 years – it was the most different situation we’ve ever had because of the quarterback situation,” Smart said. “So you’ve got one quarterback on tape (Braxton Miller), then you’ve got another quarterback on tape (J.T. Barrett), then you’ve got one game on the quarterback (Cardale Jones). And looking back, we have exit interviews with our players, and when you look in hindsight, I asked every kid, Landon Collins, Nick Perry, Jarrick Williams, the really smart seniors on our team, I said ‘Where did we go wrong? What did we do wrong?’
“All three of them said they did not respect the quarterback, and our job as the coaches was to make them respect the quarterback. Well they heard from the media, they heard from ESPN, they heard from everybody that he was a third-string quarterback. How can a third-string quarterback beat Alabama? We didn’t promote him enough and they didn’t value his talents enough, and he came in – we thought he was a really good passer, well he ran the ball well, too. We had not seen him run the ball – and not a runner like Blake (Sims) and not a runner like their other guy, just big.
“This guy was just lumbering and big and ran through arm tackles, even on our big, physical defense.”
Smart also said the heavy dosage of running back Ezekiel Elliott, mixed with Jones' surprising play, had a lot to do with the uncharacteristic play from his Alabama defense. And he knew in the early goings of the contest that it would be a long night.
“I knew early,” Smart said. “See, everybody’s talking about the score, we were leading, but we weren’t leading. We had not slowed them down. We had two red area stops, which were six points, could have been 14. We had a turnover, we stripped the ball. We had not slowed them down, and I’m thinking this could be 21 but it’s six, 21-6, could be 21-21. And then hey score right before the half, which we thought was deadly. They had a good two-minute drive and scored, and I knew we were in trouble.”
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Entire article: http://alabama.247sports.com/Bolt/U...8023769?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
Saban and Smart have seemingly handled themselves fairly respectably following the Sugar Bowl.
It just reinforces the special realm of loathing reserved for douche kings like Bielema, Hoke, Franklin, and Harbaugh.
It's like, oh, this is how normal adults are supposed to behave? That's nice.
It just reinforces the special realm of loathing reserved for douche kings like Bielema, Hoke, Franklin, and Harbaugh.
It's like, oh, this is how normal adults are supposed to behave? That's nice.
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
The link on 11w didn't show the part about Saban and Smart inviting Herman over to talk about their weaknesses. Very interesting and hella wise. Gotta give them kudos on that.
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BigJim
Hall of Fame
Completely agree.
Saban was even able to reel in Kiffen while he's been at Bama. This was pretty funny when he said this back in December:
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/12/lane_kiffin_breaks_silence_jok.html
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Finally getting around to Finebaum Film Room... 21m in, Bama's first 3-and-out (Finebaum points out Oregon's first possession was 3-and-out too)... whole time they've been talking about how Alabama will stop Oregon in a week. NFL DLine guy saying comparisons of Bosa to JJ Watt are bogus. Everyone agreeing that Doran isn't going to be able to cover Amari Cooper. Talking about how amazing Landon Collins is. How Cardale has to throw short safe passes (first is a 50/50 deep to Spencer who almost comes up with an amazing grab)
Talking about how Cardale trucking a guy for the first 1st down is actually a good thing for Alabama "he wants Cardale to run it, it's a good thing actually"
McFarland (LSU) making excuses for Bama tackling while Finebaum is disinterested texting on his phone after Eze's first big run.
Auburn fan calls in to complain about how an 8-4 SECSECSEC team is still nationally dominant that would win the NC in any other conference (but just lost to Wisconsin a few hours earlier in "neutral" Florida)
First Ohio caller, basically they hang up on him for saying Urban>Saban. Then proceed to state that Urban only beat Saban in the past because Mullen was OC and compare Urban's HC career to Lane Kiffin's.
Comparing Ohio State to Auburn Iron Bowl and FSU against Oregon for only getting 3... meanwhile, Bama goes 3-and-out in first two series.
Eze fumble. Henry TD. Fellatio in full swing.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Straight to Cardale first connection to Smith deep.
NY caller saying Cardale looks polished so far. Studio disagrees of course. Saying it's Bama defense making mistakes, not Ohio State.
Second FG.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Sims two completions, Amari Cooper TD.
Kiffin is an offensive genius
Samuel returns kickoff down inside 15
Cardale's almost-safety... SEC SEC SEC fellatio in full effect "That's what the SEC has been for the last 10 years"
Phyllis calls in... she's ready to call the game over. They want her to call back in the 4th quarter.
Making fun of Cowherd calling Saban dynasty over.
I guess it's the 7th consecutive quarter that Urban Meyer has failed to score a TD against Bama
Debating where 2014 Alabama ranks among Saban's dynasties... deciding it's one of the best, and Kiffin is a genius again.
Meanwhile, Lee doing work against the screen while Bama goes 3-and-out again.
McFarland dogging on Bosa again claiming he's been a non-factor
<broadcast skips ahead>
Bama going for it on 4th down in RZ and getting it.
TJ Yeldon TD 21-6.
And this is when it starts getting real good ^_^
Florida caller saying the game is over. Studio not quite ready to go that way.
<broadcast skips ahead>
They just skipped Landon Collins getting trucked and discussing what his injury is
Good guys back in the redzone.
Boren injured, and Eze finally gets in 21-13.
A lot of fluff while Bama goes 3-and-out again. Lee doing work on those screens.
JK Scott killing it, and seems like the last thing they can talk up about Bama... in the 2nd quarter.
Thomas breaking tackles.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Middle of phone call with a guy pointing out SEC bowl season woes... Finebaum saying it doesn't matter if Bama wins, and 3rd string doesn't matter (but was all they could talk about in the beginning of the game -- how excited Bama was to get this game that they perceived as an easy win)
Ohio State driving with the pass game.
Missouri caller saying Urban will lose and Saban become the definitive best. Finebaum says there was never a competition, Saban always the best.
No sooner than he finishes that sentence and we get the Spencer-Thomas TD. 21-20
Bama caller saying that they look bad, and Oregon looks great ... ie, Bama is still going to win this but Oregon is going to beat them. Especially about the pass defense and long balls.
Finebaum talking him down "we're talking about the #1 team in the country here"
It's funny cuz the caller wants perfection b/c he thinks they'll beat Ohio State... but the studio is still in "BAMA DYNASTY ROLLING" mode. They're all wrong. The caller is right about their D, but wrong about the results. Finebaum et. al. are just plain wrong.
McElroy finally first to admit that Bama is getting outplayed and living off Ohio State's 2 turnovers... as the teams go to the locker room.
McFarland finally admits Bama is in trouble if they can't pressure Cardale because he's moving the ball. "Ohio State offense is dictating this game".
Then right back to talking about how Bama is gonna beat Oregon.
McElroy talking about Bama or Ohio State facing Oregon's opportunistic defense "you can't turn the ball over"... oops, so much for that cliche
NY caller... nobody belongs on the same field as Oregon
Half kicks off with Cardale leading another drive. #4 just getting abused tonight. We should think about getting him some kind of thank you gift.
Eze doing work too.
Corey with a drop on a beautiful long ball dropped in stride.
Jalin helmet.
Smith don't drop long balls
Lead for the first time
<broadcast skips ahead>
Henry long run. Studio wondering where Cooper went.
A couple short gains and then Henry stuffed at the line.
McElroy calls for a timeout... and then Miller's pick6 a few seconds later.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Reality settling into the studio.
Talking about how Cooper has been taken out of the game.
Then he catches a 1st down.
Man we had a hard time getting Henry down. Thank god Kiffin is a genius.
Studio going on about Saban teams are just so resilient... in the rz again... TD Simms on the ground.
Buffalo caller dogging Kiffin, saying it'd be a blowout otherwise
Bama caller predicting Cooper and Henry will take over the game now
Talking about how Bama pass rush needs to be more creative (going back to VTech)
Louisiana caller asking how Bama losing will affect the rest of the SECSECSEC .. cuz you know they're all just riding the Bama train
Texas caller, again Kiffin... it'd be a blowout if not for him
Bama sacks Cardale for once from a 5man dline and Johnston has to make a rare punt
Bama feeding Henry and bubble screen to Cooper, driving. Then Lee gets the sack, breakup by Apple, and C. Grant sniffs out the screen.
Time for Bama's best player to do his thing again.
McElroy saying Henry isn't as good as Yeldon... I still think Ohio State struggled mightily against big bruiser RBs last year (Navy at times, Cobb, Henry), but not so much against the burners or feature guys like Coleman/Gordon/Yeldon/Nike.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Bama has ball again, apparently they skipped to right after the bad-bounce punt.
Vonn Bell ^_^
<broadcast skips ahead> (man they cut a lot of the momentum swings for Ohio State)
Bama non-roughing kicker and Urban headset goes flying
Even Finebaum is like "he gets hit pretty hard"
<broadcast skips ahead> (maybe they just decided JK Scott's highlight reel wasn't that interesting)
Ohio State with ball... I can see it coming.
Yeap, 85 yards through the heart of the South.
Complete silence in the studio while he crosses the endzone.
Starting to realize what's going on.
2pt conversion to Thomas.
"Alabama is going to look back on this game and be really disappointed with their game offensively"
Bama caller back on -- Finebaum book burning imminent? Bamas been man-handled.
Now the studio is agreeing with him "they just ran into a buzzsaw tonight"
"They still could've won this game easily" - Finebaum
"This is a towering inferno right now for Alabama" - Finebaum
Simms to White long ball, force 4th and 2 but Bama TD
Bell and Fick couldn't get TO called
Ohio caller - calling McElroy out on claiming nobody has improved as much as Bama. Ohio State lost to VTech.
Spencer gets the onside kick
Cut off Ohio caller after he said Spencer was the best player
South Carolina "SEC is the powerhouse of college football..." Gamecocks still delusional and riding Bama's coat tails.
Urban goes for the death blow and misses it.
Bama only gave up 88yds/game rushing prior to playoff
Tammy is apparently not an SECSECSEC bandwagon... happy Oregon won, more happy Ohio State beat Bama... Oregon will beat us
Ohio caller calls them out for never giving credit to other conferences/teams. Northern kids kicked their ass in several games and owned the SEC. They never schedule out-of-conference away... studio deflects about "neutral" games etc.
McFarland finally giving some credit... manhandled by a 3rd string QB
Large discussions about "SEC Fans"... where's SEC University exactly?
And then right back to the "Bama handed this game away" spinjobs, and hanging up on anyone that calls them on bs (ie: Finebaum earlier claiming Wiscy tanked the B1G CCG on purpose)
Talking about how Cardale trucking a guy for the first 1st down is actually a good thing for Alabama "he wants Cardale to run it, it's a good thing actually"
McFarland (LSU) making excuses for Bama tackling while Finebaum is disinterested texting on his phone after Eze's first big run.
Auburn fan calls in to complain about how an 8-4 SECSECSEC team is still nationally dominant that would win the NC in any other conference (but just lost to Wisconsin a few hours earlier in "neutral" Florida)
First Ohio caller, basically they hang up on him for saying Urban>Saban. Then proceed to state that Urban only beat Saban in the past because Mullen was OC and compare Urban's HC career to Lane Kiffin's.
Comparing Ohio State to Auburn Iron Bowl and FSU against Oregon for only getting 3... meanwhile, Bama goes 3-and-out in first two series.
Eze fumble. Henry TD. Fellatio in full swing.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Straight to Cardale first connection to Smith deep.
NY caller saying Cardale looks polished so far. Studio disagrees of course. Saying it's Bama defense making mistakes, not Ohio State.
Second FG.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Sims two completions, Amari Cooper TD.
Kiffin is an offensive genius
Samuel returns kickoff down inside 15
Cardale's almost-safety... SEC SEC SEC fellatio in full effect "That's what the SEC has been for the last 10 years"
Phyllis calls in... she's ready to call the game over. They want her to call back in the 4th quarter.
Making fun of Cowherd calling Saban dynasty over.
I guess it's the 7th consecutive quarter that Urban Meyer has failed to score a TD against Bama
Debating where 2014 Alabama ranks among Saban's dynasties... deciding it's one of the best, and Kiffin is a genius again.
Meanwhile, Lee doing work against the screen while Bama goes 3-and-out again.
McFarland dogging on Bosa again claiming he's been a non-factor
<broadcast skips ahead>
Bama going for it on 4th down in RZ and getting it.
TJ Yeldon TD 21-6.
And this is when it starts getting real good ^_^
Florida caller saying the game is over. Studio not quite ready to go that way.
<broadcast skips ahead>
They just skipped Landon Collins getting trucked and discussing what his injury is
Good guys back in the redzone.
Boren injured, and Eze finally gets in 21-13.
A lot of fluff while Bama goes 3-and-out again. Lee doing work on those screens.
JK Scott killing it, and seems like the last thing they can talk up about Bama... in the 2nd quarter.
Thomas breaking tackles.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Middle of phone call with a guy pointing out SEC bowl season woes... Finebaum saying it doesn't matter if Bama wins, and 3rd string doesn't matter (but was all they could talk about in the beginning of the game -- how excited Bama was to get this game that they perceived as an easy win)
Ohio State driving with the pass game.
Missouri caller saying Urban will lose and Saban become the definitive best. Finebaum says there was never a competition, Saban always the best.
No sooner than he finishes that sentence and we get the Spencer-Thomas TD. 21-20
Bama caller saying that they look bad, and Oregon looks great ... ie, Bama is still going to win this but Oregon is going to beat them. Especially about the pass defense and long balls.
Finebaum talking him down "we're talking about the #1 team in the country here"
It's funny cuz the caller wants perfection b/c he thinks they'll beat Ohio State... but the studio is still in "BAMA DYNASTY ROLLING" mode. They're all wrong. The caller is right about their D, but wrong about the results. Finebaum et. al. are just plain wrong.
McElroy finally first to admit that Bama is getting outplayed and living off Ohio State's 2 turnovers... as the teams go to the locker room.
McFarland finally admits Bama is in trouble if they can't pressure Cardale because he's moving the ball. "Ohio State offense is dictating this game".
Then right back to talking about how Bama is gonna beat Oregon.
McElroy talking about Bama or Ohio State facing Oregon's opportunistic defense "you can't turn the ball over"... oops, so much for that cliche
NY caller... nobody belongs on the same field as Oregon
Half kicks off with Cardale leading another drive. #4 just getting abused tonight. We should think about getting him some kind of thank you gift.
Eze doing work too.
Corey with a drop on a beautiful long ball dropped in stride.
Jalin helmet.
Smith don't drop long balls
Lead for the first time<broadcast skips ahead>
Henry long run. Studio wondering where Cooper went.
A couple short gains and then Henry stuffed at the line.
McElroy calls for a timeout... and then Miller's pick6 a few seconds later.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Reality settling into the studio.
Talking about how Cooper has been taken out of the game.
Then he catches a 1st down.
Man we had a hard time getting Henry down. Thank god Kiffin is a genius.
Studio going on about Saban teams are just so resilient... in the rz again... TD Simms on the ground.
Buffalo caller dogging Kiffin, saying it'd be a blowout otherwise
Bama caller predicting Cooper and Henry will take over the game now
Talking about how Bama pass rush needs to be more creative (going back to VTech)
Louisiana caller asking how Bama losing will affect the rest of the SECSECSEC .. cuz you know they're all just riding the Bama train
Texas caller, again Kiffin... it'd be a blowout if not for him
Bama sacks Cardale for once from a 5man dline and Johnston has to make a rare punt
Bama feeding Henry and bubble screen to Cooper, driving. Then Lee gets the sack, breakup by Apple, and C. Grant sniffs out the screen.
Time for Bama's best player to do his thing again.
McElroy saying Henry isn't as good as Yeldon... I still think Ohio State struggled mightily against big bruiser RBs last year (Navy at times, Cobb, Henry), but not so much against the burners or feature guys like Coleman/Gordon/Yeldon/Nike.
<broadcast skips ahead>
Bama has ball again, apparently they skipped to right after the bad-bounce punt.
Vonn Bell ^_^
<broadcast skips ahead> (man they cut a lot of the momentum swings for Ohio State)
Bama non-roughing kicker and Urban headset goes flying
Even Finebaum is like "he gets hit pretty hard"
<broadcast skips ahead> (maybe they just decided JK Scott's highlight reel wasn't that interesting)
Ohio State with ball... I can see it coming.
Yeap, 85 yards through the heart of the South.
Complete silence in the studio while he crosses the endzone.
Starting to realize what's going on.
2pt conversion to Thomas.
"Alabama is going to look back on this game and be really disappointed with their game offensively"
Bama caller back on -- Finebaum book burning imminent? Bamas been man-handled.
Now the studio is agreeing with him "they just ran into a buzzsaw tonight"
"They still could've won this game easily" - Finebaum
"This is a towering inferno right now for Alabama" - Finebaum
Simms to White long ball, force 4th and 2 but Bama TD
Bell and Fick couldn't get TO called
Ohio caller - calling McElroy out on claiming nobody has improved as much as Bama. Ohio State lost to VTech.
Spencer gets the onside kick
Cut off Ohio caller after he said Spencer was the best player
South Carolina "SEC is the powerhouse of college football..." Gamecocks still delusional and riding Bama's coat tails.
Urban goes for the death blow and misses it.
Bama only gave up 88yds/game rushing prior to playoff
Tammy is apparently not an SECSECSEC bandwagon... happy Oregon won, more happy Ohio State beat Bama... Oregon will beat us
Ohio caller calls them out for never giving credit to other conferences/teams. Northern kids kicked their ass in several games and owned the SEC. They never schedule out-of-conference away... studio deflects about "neutral" games etc.
McFarland finally giving some credit... manhandled by a 3rd string QB
Large discussions about "SEC Fans"... where's SEC University exactly?
And then right back to the "Bama handed this game away" spinjobs, and hanging up on anyone that calls them on bs (ie: Finebaum earlier claiming Wiscy tanked the B1G CCG on purpose)
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