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2015 Offense Discussion

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Hstead said:
I am obviously not at practice, but my guess is Cardale is throwing the ball better than JT. Unfortunately, JT had his chance a few times during games, and though I understand the argument he hasn't had as many first team reps etc, he didn't prove he can distribute the ball better. JT has not taken the proverbial bull by the horns when he had his chance to demonstrate he could distribute the ball, instead he threw some piss poor passes and a couple of terrible INTs. And I am not exactly a "Cardale Guy" either.
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This pretty much sums up what I've been saying since the Hawaii game.
 
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I always thought it was strategic placement of the Empire State building. Who knew?

So I started doing some more research;

Grape Ape seems to support the hypothesis

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Magilla Gorilla always wore pants so he is of no use;

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Mighty Joe Young appears to be dickless;

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The gorilla in Trading Places; we are never shown his junk but led to believe he actually has an operational unit

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So I guess it's science after all.

Learn something new everyday
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So Urban Meyer and his staff say Cardale Jones won the competition and is our QB

ESPN talking head Danny Kanell says it should be JT Barrett

and you are rolling with Danny Kanell

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How prolific gorilla appendages are or aren't aside...

Your point stands about trusting Urban Meyer on this - and that is something I am constantly reminding myself of. I guess my problem is my eyes, and because I didn't trust them, I took a few hours and charted every offensive play late Sat night into Sun morning - and that told me that there is the same turmoil, indecision, and confusion going on within the offensive coaching staff as we have here. But then I have to remind myself that the staff has way, way more info to go on than my little play chart AND they have UFM to bring clarity, definition, and calm.

That said, it's not just Kanell. I haven't heard one pundit, on any network (and I dvr and watch almost all of them) - most of them former players and coaches that have better eyes than I do - back the decision to start CJ and sit JT. Several of them have noted the change in the offense, and have concluded that if this new "Cardale" offense is going to be what they are committed to, then Cardale has to be the guy who runs it - and I agree with that.

Right now, after game 5, you are operating on blind faith if you think this offense is OK. It is possible that there will be significant improvement beginning this Saturday - although if they destroy Maryland with 8 explosive plays, has the offense really gotten to the point where they can string first downs together and sustain a drive? All I know is that they have got to pull this offense together by late November or we will be watching the B1G CC and the playoffs with more indifference than we did last year. If they do, we will be looking at this part of the season as part of the process of a great team becoming great. If not, I will not be able to stop myself from thinking that if OSU had maintained the offensive system that had them scoring at a record rate, and started the guy who ran that system, that a great team would have proved to be great. I don't think I will be alone in that.

The nice thing is the schedule affords the players and coaches to get this thing fixed. Nothing to do but see if they can.
 
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Feeling lots better about this side of the ball. They looked like they had a plan. The ball was distributed around to the main playmakers+. They were efficient and explosive. The guy I like best at QB got to play some and had a heckuva day, and the other guy looked sharp. Little to complain about on that side of the ball. Gotta see if they can do it against better defenses than Maryland

But all of the sudden the defense has some issues. I just want to see one complete good performance on both sides of the ball. That said, they need to be peaking about a month from now.
 
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OSUK said:
How prolific gorilla appendages are or aren't aside...

Your point stands about trusting Urban Meyer on this - and that is something I am constantly reminding myself of. I guess my problem is my eyes, and because I didn't trust them, I took a few hours and charted every offensive play late Sat night into Sun morning - and that told me that there is the same turmoil, indecision, and confusion going on within the offensive coaching staff as we have here. But then I have to remind myself that the staff has way, way more info to go on than my little play chart AND they have UFM to bring clarity, definition, and calm.

That said, it's not just Kanell. I haven't heard one pundit, on any network (and I dvr and watch almost all of them) - most of them former players and coaches that have better eyes than I do - back the decision to start CJ and sit JT. Several of them have noted the change in the offense, and have concluded that if this new "Cardale" offense is going to be what they are committed to, then Cardale has to be the guy who runs it - and I agree with that.

Right now, after game 5, you are operating on blind faith if you think this offense is OK. It is possible that there will be significant improvement beginning this Saturday - although if they destroy Maryland with 8 explosive plays, has the offense really gotten to the point where they can string first downs together and sustain a drive? All I know is that they have got to pull this offense together by late November or we will be watching the B1G CC and the playoffs with more indifference than we did last year. If they do, we will be looking at this part of the season as part of the process of a great team becoming great. If not, I will not be able to stop myself from thinking that if OSU had maintained the offensive system that had them scoring at a record rate, and started the guy who ran that system, that a great team would have proved to be great. I don't think I will be alone in that.

The nice thing is the schedule affords the players and coaches to get this thing fixed. Nothing to do but see if they can.
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I missed this one last week. Sorry

A) not blind faith at all. It's in the numbers and has been discussed in depth. 3rd down conversions, red zone TD's and turnovers....fix them and the offense will click. Explosiveness is there, just have to remove the things retarding the timing.

B) as far as the multitude of national pundits telling Urban Meyer what QB he should be starting I have the same reaction as I did to Danny Kanell. It's laughable...not that they say it, because saying stupid controversial shit is how they keep their jobs, but that people buy it.

Look at Meyer's track record with QB's, his offensive stats over the years and his winning percentage. How in the hell is anyone from the outside going to know more than him when he sees these guys in practice everyday? I'm not a believer in blind faith to anyone or anything, I am a believer in using intelligence and logic when forming opinions and the dude on local sports talk 610 The Fan < Urban Meyer to fucking infinity.
 
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Beck more or less admitted the first few games it was Warriners offense but the last few games have been his offense now. Interesting he would say that because to me it was like "yeah when we sucked that wasn't me" lol... any who I'm glad Beck has taken control because he does have experience running a fairly good offense when he was with Nebraska.

Besides Warriner is more crucial to working on adjustments on the line through the game and his effort is needed there
 
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bukIpower said:
Beck more or less admitted the first few games it was Warriners offense but the last few games have been his offense now. Interesting he would say that because to me it was like "yeah when we sucked that wasn't me" lol... any who I'm glad Beck has taken control because he does have experience running a fairly good offense when he was with Nebraska.

Besides Warriner is more crucial to working on adjustments on the line through the game and his effort is needed there
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More or less? Hell, he flat out threw it all on him. I don't mind it though, just struck me as odd to hear a coach come out and say it the way he did.

"It's evolved," Beck said Monday. That means it's different from where it started the year, when offensive coordinator and offensive line coach Ed Warinner was the play caller from the sideline.

That evolution is ...

"Ultimately, right now, the voice is mine," Beck said Monday. "Early games were Ed's voice, again, I think through collaboration and Ed calling the game from the sideline using his voice through the collaboration. Now it's just my voice through the collaboration."
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BUCKEYE RECEIVERS STEP UP TO GIVE CARDALE JONES A CAREER DAY

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Ohio State’s receiving corps, dubbed "Zone 6" by receivers coach Zach Smith, has taken its share of criticism in the first half of the season. But Saturday the Buckeye receivers stepped up, got separation, and made plays for their quarterbacks.

Michael Thomas had a career day. Despite not getting into the end zone, Thomas caught a season-high seven passes for a career-high 107 yards. Braxton Miller finished with five receptions for 79 yards and a touchdown, including a circus catch on a 33-yard Cardale Jones throw that was a bit off the mark. Jalin Marshall caught four passes for 78 yards, including a 48-yard touchdown.

The trio of starters helped Jones set new career highs in completions (21) and yards (291). And Jones only played one snap inside the Maryland 20-yard line—his 19-yard scoring strike to Miller.

Cardale has now topped 200 yards in three consecutive games. His previous high for the season was 288 against Western Michigan. Jones also avoided throwing an interception for the first time since the Hawai’i game. He had thrown four picks in the last three games. With the receivers stepping up and making plays, Cardale didn’t feel compelled to force anything.

It was a big performance by the receivers, which also includes a six-yard reception by Dontre Wilson. Thomas, Miller and Marshall getting open against Maryland’s secondary helped Jones keep the offense moving much of the day. The Buckeyes punted only three times, with one of those coming on the very first drive. With everyone in sync, Jones and Barrett were named Ohio State’s co-offensive players of the game.

And you can expand the receiving corps to include Ezekiel Elliott. Zeke finished with six receptions for 47 yards on a day when the opposition did a good job of limiting big run plays and clogging up the middle.

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Felt like a receiver today
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1:37 PM - 10 Oct 2015

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...rs-step-up-to-give-cardale-jones-a-career-day
 
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