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2014 tOSU Wide Receiver Discussion

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It's not talent, it's merely the gameplan. We have talent all over the place it the skill positions, it's just a matter of using it correctly to offset how we are being schemed. A rookie offensive line and QB tells any Def. Coordinator how they should scheme against us, it's just a matter of if they have a capable secondary to blitz like crazy. When being blitzed like crazy there is less time in the pocket so you have to rely on short to intermediate routes and dump off passes to the TE and RBs to offset it. There's no doubting our skill position talent but their scheme was to make us one deminsional and they did just that.
 
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buckeye4ever21 said:
It's not talent, it's merely the gameplan. We have talent all over the place it the skill positions, it's just a matter of using it correctly to offset how we are being schemed. A rookie offensive line and QB tells any Def. Coordinator how they should scheme against us, it's just a matter of if they have a capable secondary to blitz like crazy. When being blitzed like crazy there is less time in the pocket so you have to rely on short to intermediate routes and dump off passes to the TE and RBs to offset it. There's no doubting our skill position talent but their scheme was to make us one deminsional and they did just that.
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Scheme didn't cause several drops. If those catches are made, we're all having a much different discussion. Do I have some issues with some of the calls Saturday night? Definitely. But a lot of the failure comes down to the dreaded "lack of execution."

*edit- ninja'd by Mili.
 
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zincfinger said:
I think maybe it was talent level, but not just of the OSU receivers. VT's DB's were good, and I can see why the VT coaches felt it was a reasonable gamble to put them in man coverage with no safety support on most plays. OSU's receivers were getting open from time to time, but not by much. In order for OSU to make them pay for thatconsistently, Barrett had to put the ball just about perfectly on-target and the receiver had to make a good catch. More often than not, one of those things didn't happen.

Overall, I do think it was largely talent (where I'm defining "talent" as a combination of pure ability and experience). OSU's QB/receiver combo right now is merely decent (it's not horrible), but VT's secondary, from what I saw last weekend, is good to very good.
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I'll disagree somewhat. Barrett was putting those balls in very catchable position. The receivers simply were not coming up with them. That actually gives me some encouragement. Barrett did miss a number of open guys; however, he spent most of the night under siege. I thought the receivers were doing an excellent job of creating seperation against a traditionally good secondary. Two things need to happen for this to become a pretty damn good offense-- 1) the OL needs to get it together and give what I think could be a very good QB more than a nano-second to go through his progressions, and 2) when Barrett spots the open guy and puts the ball reasonably on target, the receivers need to make the play.

Corey Smith was especially dreadful in point 2 Saturday, and one has to wonder if he didn't send himself to the bottom of the pecking order as a result. Kid has ability, as I saw him getting open. But at this point, there's a disconnect somewhere...whether it's his head or his hands, I don't know.
 
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NFBuck said:
I'll disagree somewhat. Barrett was putting those balls in very catchable position. The receivers simply were not coming up with them.
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You're not disagreeing with me in that statement because I think that did happen at least a couple of times. I think it also happened at least a couple of times that an OSU receiver had pretty good separation and Barrett misplaced the ball a little bit. And I think a few of the "drops" happened because the coverage was good, making the catch reasonably difficult even though the pass was pretty accurate.
 
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NFBuck said:
That was incredibly frustrating, especially given the fact that when they did call one, it ended up being a huge play.
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They called another one with two guys on the right side of the field running slants. Barrett threw to the outer of the two slants and it was broken up. I'm not going back to watch, but I think Wilson or Samuel was running the slant inside and was open by 3-4 yards. Barrett picked the wrong guy -- I'd love to see him hit #2 or #4 in stride matched up with a safety or linebacker.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
They called another one with two guys on the right side of the field running slants. Barrett threw to the outer of the two slants and it was broken up. I'm not going back to watch, but I think Wilson or Samuel was running the slant inside and was open by 3-4 yards. Barrett picked the wrong guy -- I'd love to see him hit #2 or #4 in stride matched up with a safety or linebacker.
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#17 can be added to that list, if you ask me. Maybe I missed it, but he was non-existent on Saturday for some reason.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
They called another one with two guys on the right side of the field running slants. Barrett threw to the outer of the two slants and it was broken up. I'm not going back to watch, but I think Wilson or Samuel was running the slant inside and was open by 3-4 yards. Barrett picked the wrong guy -- I'd love to see him hit #2 or #4 in stride matched up with a safety or linebacker.
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I was just about to mention that play. Watching it develop from 4C, the slot receiver was so open that I assumed that's where the ball was going and lost track of it when the throw didn't go there. I think slants would have worked in an ideal world, but they are limited when the QB only looks at one guy and before long they'll start to sit on that route - such is the nature of having an inexperienced QB.
 
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Passing game: 1) good call vs. the defense as presented 2) good protection 3) good route running 4) proper read by QB 5) footwork/timing 6) accurate throw 7) catchable balls are caught.

I think it's safe to say we had issues, at times, in all 7 phases of being successful moving the ball through the air. Some of that you give credit to Va Tech for, and the rest you have to attribute to execution failures, poor preparation, and play-calling. Nothing to do but keep working on it and get better at doing those 7 things.
 
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