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2013 Week 11 CFB Open Thread

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AuburnBuckeye said:
I see what you're saying but Mushchamp is getting paid the big bucks. In the end if they don't get their [Mark May] together there's nothing you CAN do but blame him
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A good point, but I would rather blame whoever is at the top of the ladder instilling the win at all costs attitude. Could be Muschamp but for some reason I think it goes up to the athletic/school administration. Yes, if he can't keep them in line, then he needs to go and they need to keep looking until they find someone who can. But I can't think of anyone off the top of my head that could. I'm sure there is someone, but my guess is it will take a few more tries, perhaps even a change of AD before it happens. Meyer was a very successful hire, but I don't think that attitude was established until 06, 07, 08..... Plus Urban seems to be one in a million.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
A good point, but I would rather blame whoever is at the top of the ladder instilling the win at all costs attitude. Could be Muschamp but for some reason I think it goes up to the athletic/school administration. Yes, if he can't keep them in line, then he needs to go and they need to keep looking until they find someone who can. But I can't think of anyone off the top of my head that could. I'm sure there is someone, but my guess is it will take a few more tries, perhaps even a change of AD before it happens. Meyer was a very successful hire, but I don't think that attitude was established until 06, 07, 08..... Plus Urban seems to be one in a million.
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Win at all costs seems to be the culture in CFB just about everywhere. UF's best hire they can make is Strong imo
 
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AuburnBuckeye said:
Win at all costs seems to be the culture in CFB just about everywhere. UF's best hire they can make is Strong imo
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I would say the opposite. Win at all costs seems to be prevalent around the SEC top programs. But in general, I don't get that impression from teams like Georgia, South Carolina, Mizzou, Vandy to name a few. Even Auburn with Malzahn seems to be a clean run program. I pride myself that we don't have that attitude at Ohio State or really any Big Ten school other than Penn State and perhaps Nebraska. Shaping the kids into decent adults is a priority. I can't think of a team in the ACC other than Miami, and maybe UNC that has that attitude. FSU in general seems to be a clean run program, along with Clemson. Sure teams will have some struggles and be penalized for it, but I think most schools and their administrations try very hard to keep things clean. I think there are several teams in the Pac that could fall into that attitude though. Teams that have a lot of flash can fall into that trap easily. USC is rotten and I think Oregon is starting to fall down that path in the next decade. And of course we have Texas A&M where win at all costs in the new mantra. Any big 12 programs with a win at all cost attitude seem to be an outlier. Then there is alabama which has had at least a dozen scandals since Saban arrived (while they are under parole) but appear to have bought off the NCAA.
I'm not saying that coaches and players won't bend the rules to try to gain an advantage, but there are only a dozen or so that are win at all cost systemic problems.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
I would say the opposite. Win at all costs seems to be prevalent around the SEC top programs. But in general, I don't get that impression from teams like Georgia, South Carolina, Mizzou, Vandy to name a few. Even Auburn with Malzahn seems to be a clean run program. I pride myself that we don't have that attitude at Ohio State or really any Big Ten school other than Penn State and perhaps Nebraska. Shaping the kids into decent adults is a priority. I can't think of a team in the ACC other than Miami, and maybe UNC that has that attitude. FSU in general seems to be a clean run program, along with Clemson. Sure teams will have some struggles and be penalized for it, but I think most schools and their administrations try very hard to keep things clean. I think there are several teams in the Pac that could fall into that attitude though. Teams that have a lot of flash can fall into that trap easily. USC is rotten and I think Oregon is starting to fall down that path in the next decade. And of course we have Texas A&M where win at all costs in the new mantra. Any big 12 programs with a win at all cost attitude seem to be an outlier. Then there is alabama which has had at least a dozen scandals since Saban arrived (while they are under parole) but appear to have bought off the NCAA.
I'm not saying that coaches and players won't bend the rules to try to gain an advantage, but there are only a dozen or so that are win at all cost systemic problems.
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