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BayBuck
Buckeyes are best
Sure, but MSU would have likely been the 4 seed in a playoff, so it isn't B1G bias keeping OSU out, it's not winning the conference.
Also i think the MD/Rutgers effect is being overplayed: they eked into those bowls against even weaker conference schedules than they'd see in B1G play.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Perhaps on the MSU issue, but I'm not so sure that there wouldn't have been a lot of pressure to put Stanford in over MSU based on the perceived harder schedule and conference not to mention the p.r. benefit of having an elite academic institution make it. I'd estimate a 50-50 chance that Stanford would have gotten the nod, and Sparty would have gotten the shaft.
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BayBuck
Buckeyes are best
Nah. MSU was #4 everywhere, Stanford ended as low as 7th in the coaches poll. Polls don't count technically for the playoff, but they won't be completely discounted either. MSU got a huge quality win to end the year, they're in pretty easy.
And besides, lose a game and you deserve to be on the bubble. If we want in the playoffs for sure, we need OSU to win out; 13-0 gets us in every year, no question.
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Yep. And for as weak as the B1G looks now, and for at least the next couple of years, 13-0 should be the goal for an inclusion in the playoff. An undefeated tOSU, regardless of strength of the conference, will get them in. tOSU is a ratings draw, and don't underestimate the influence that will have.
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Ohio States OOC schedule next year might not have a top 10 team but its certainly looking better then this years was.
Va Tech might not be a top 10 team but its a much better game then Cal.
Cincinnati was a 9 win team this year
And Navy is usually a respectable bowl team.
Va Tech might not be a top 10 team but its a much better game then Cal.
Cincinnati was a 9 win team this year
And Navy is usually a respectable bowl team.
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Muck
Enjoy Every Sandwich
How exactly does one remember the results of a system that is not only non-existent as of yet, but which doesn't even have it's selection criteria sorted out?
Instead of making up numbers as to how likely a team would be to get in, it would be better to remember that we have no way of knowing who the playoff committe would have selected for the playoff this year.
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I think it's safe to assume that such a committee would leave the #7 team out of a four-team play-off.
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Muck
Enjoy Every Sandwich
Then you are working under a flawed assumption.
The BCS poll will not exist next year. We don't know if the Harris poll will exist as it was created solely for the BCS. It's unlikely the AP poll will be (officially) included. According to the coaches poll Ohio State was 6th. Only one of the BCS computer polls had Ohio State at #7 while two of them put the Buckeyes at #5. Will any of those systems be included next year? We don't know.
The move to a 4 team selection over 2 will in and of itself influence how voters in the various polls rank teams. We have no idea how much or in what manner that will change their voting. So we don't even know where Ohio State would be ranked in the polls if the playoff were in place this year.
We don't know what polls will be used (computer or human). We don't know how heavily the polls used (if any) will weight into the final decisions. We certainly don't know how the change in the system will affect various polls.
It's not safe to assume anything at this point.
I agree it's unlikely Ohio State would get in, but not because of any "BIG TEN SUCKS!" ax grinding. Rather it's because there are four conference champions with acceptable resumes (Stanford, Sparty, FSU & Auburn).
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BayBuck
Buckeyes are best
Obviously all the polls will still exist, the AP, coaches, computers are all established devices that will still be around and cited by sportswriters et al. The whole point of a committee is that there won't be a defined formula to determine the playoff lineup, but it's hard to imagine their subjective decisions won't be informed to some degree by these traditional ranking systems.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
No way Sparty and Stanford both get in over Alabama. Now, I grant you that they should get in over Alabama, but Fearless Leader Delaney threw the conference champion card on the table without so much as a whimper. Those two would have been fighting for the last spot. I think Sparty would have deserved it over a two-loss Stanford team, but who knows what would have happened in the smoke filled room with espn bringing every gun they had to bear in an attempt to keep the Big Ten out.
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Looking at the people making up the Shadow Council, I'd never count Stanford out. Notre Dame and USC might be the only other schools with more influence in that group of people.
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Ohio State is #7 BCS, #7 AP, #7 ESPN Power, #6 USAToday.
It is certainly not safe to assume that the selection committee will employ a ranking system vastly different from those currently in place.
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