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2012 Preseason and regular polls (official thread)

NFBuck;2215745; said:
...or is actually a Top-10 team?

Could say the same for the 2002 team after their first few games, but I dont think it matters if they look like a top-10 team or not.

If OSU can get at least 10 wins that would probably land them around 12-10. Like USC last year

IMO very possible, im going to stick with OSU being the best team in the B1G.
 
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Steve19;2215697; said:
The polls are a crap shoot, but I would be very surprised if Ohio State fell this week.

Typo there. As I said in the ND thread, I expected less than #15. When is the last time that there was not a Big Ten team in the top 15? This is a very sad state of affairs. In my opinion, there is not a Big Ten team that deserves to be ranked in the top 20 yet. We are in a rebuilding year and look to be the cream of the crop?
 
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Buckeye513;2215740; said:
Who cares? Is anyone under the delusion that OSU is winning the AP title this year?

No, but to slide 4 spots after a win over a middle of the pack school from what is one of the two best conference in division 1A is a little surprising though. I honestly expected them to stay where they were.
 
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Mariotwins;2215788; said:
But yet kansas State struggles against north texas and stays at 15

Kansas State had a decent season last year, and brought a lot back. They also beat Miami, which is a bigger name program than Cal, and there was a lot of attention brought to that by that radio rant.

I am not saying they are better than us, or that they will be ranked higher at season's end, but in a season where we are not going to win a NC, I really don't care if we are ranked lower than I think we should be.
 
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I think the issue is that the press, and our coach, keep pointing out that the Buckeyes are "not yet ready for prime time players". There were parts of the Cal game that were stunningly bad.

That said, the Buckeyes win out and they will be right up there. 2002 had its ugly moments too. Some posters here aged ten years that year. :biggrin:
 
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WyoBuck;2215783; said:
No, but to slide 4 spots after a win over a middle of the pack school from what is one of the two best conference in division 1A is a little surprising though. I honestly expected them to stay where they were.

I've got no problem with OSU bumping down a few spots. But I wonder why scUM didn't bump down a few spots when they struggled just as much with Air Force at home a week ago.
 
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I think the issue is that the press, and our coach, keep pointing out that the Buckeyes are "not yet ready for prime time players". There were parts of the Cal game that were stunningly bad.

That said, the Buckeyes win out and they will be right up there. 2002 had its ugly moments too. Some posters here aged ten years that year. :biggrin:
that's fine....but when else has it ever worked that way?
 
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Steve19;2215806; said:
I think the issue is that the press, and our coach, keep pointing out that the Buckeyes are "not yet ready for prime time players". There were parts of the Cal game that were stunningly bad.

That said, the Buckeyes win out and they will be right up there. 2002 had its ugly moments too. Some posters here aged ten years that year. :biggrin:

2002 had ugly moments too..I think not being bowl eligibile might hurt us with a few voters
 
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With the big 10 having a hard time out of conference this year, it would have been hard to get enough SOS to make it into the title game. No bowl game for the 2012 season would have been much more tragic with higher poll numbers.
 
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With the big 10 having a hard time out of conference this year, it would have been hard to get enough SOS to make it into the title game. No bowl game for the 2012 season would have been much more tragic with higher poll numbers.
As quickly as everyone wants to point to the Big Ten being bad, it's worth noting that the only team with a losing record is Penn State, and it's hard to use them as an example seeing as what they have gone through. The problem the Big Ten is 0-4 against ranked teams, losing to UCLA, Alabama, and ND twice. So perception is there is no elite team, which I would agree seems to be the case. But other than those games the conference is 26-6. Just because there isn't an elite team, doesn't mean the conference is weak. It may be the deepest conference this year, and overall could still prove to be very strong, especially in the computer's eyes.
 
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JXC;2215870; said:
As quickly as everyone wants to point to the Big Ten being bad, it's worth noting that the only team with a losing record is Penn State, and it's hard to use them as an example seeing as what they have gone through. The problem the Big Ten is 0-4 against ranked teams, losing to UCLA, Alabama, and ND twice. So perception is there is no elite team, which I would agree seems to be the case. But other than those games the conference is 26-6..

Not true. Were 1-4.

Michigan State beat #24 Boise State in weak one.


I think perception is coming from the fact that the Top 25 Big Ten teams either have looked "okay" or haven't fared well at all in big games on national tv. None of the teams have looked great.

Week 1:

-Michigan slaughtered by Bama, 41-14
-MSU squeaks by Boise at home, 17-13
-OSU dominates Miami, but no one cares because we can't challenge for the BCS title
-Wisky barely gets by an MVC team, North Iowa, 26-21
-Nebraska handles business as they should against South MO, 49-20

Week 2:

- Embarrassing loss by Wisconsin to Oregon State, after looking unimpressive the previous week.
-Nebraska losses
- Michigan and OSU final box scores against their teams were "okay", too close for comfort against teams they should be dominating.
- MSU wins, no biggie against a crappy MAC school.

Week 3:

-MSU gets their shit handed to them by ND, at home.
-The Bucks barely get by Cal.
- No one will be impressed with Michigans win over UMass.
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3 Weeks of ball, 3 bad weeks for the Big Ten nationally. Started with 5 ranked teams, currently only have 3.

Yes, the Big Ten is that bad this year.
 
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I think the B1G's perceived shortcomings on the field are a bit overstated. The conference isn't as bad as many claim. There's not an elite team in the conference, but honestly, there's only 2 or 3 elite teams in the country. Everyone else has issues.
 
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