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2011 TSUN shenanigans and arguments (off season)

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WolverineMike;1886299; said:
did you really think UM fans were going to ignore it?
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No, but I didn't expect them to bend over backwards and try to act like there are more transgressions than there really have been. Or are you really suggesting that mgoblog putting things like the Clarett saga (of which nothing ever came), and the Pryor car circumstance and the Hawk/Mangold robbery (which are, apparently, based on nothing more than idiotic speculation and blind jealousy) is justified in an attempt to drag Tressel and OSU through the mud?
 
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buckeyesin07;1886368; said:
No, but I didn't expect them to bend over backwards and try to act like there are more transgressions than there really have been.
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Why not? They've been doing it for years.

We're talking about a board that cites Maurice Clarett driving an Escalade (that belonged to his uncle) three years after being suspended from Ohio State football as evidence that he was paid to play in Columbus.
 
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Muck;1886458; said:
Why not? They've been doing it for years.

We're talking about a board that cites Maurice Clarett driving an Escalade (that belonged to his uncle) three years after being suspended from Ohio State football as evidence that he was paid to play in Columbus.
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Yeah, and we all do it. We all find the worst in the other programs and the best in ourselves. I'd be disappointed in TSUN if they DIDN'T gloat at this. They have nothing else to gloat about...so they'd BETTER gloat about this.
 
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Those poor folks up north only have two options: convince themselves that Ohio State pays players and cheats, or admit that top talent no longer considers Michigan to be a desired destination. Cognitive dissonance is a real bitch.
 
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There's now a race to become part of this recruiting story
Beaver said:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Chr is-Barnett-took-winding-road-to-Michigan-031211

There's now a race to become part of this story (not the Barnett story, but the larger story). Too bad.

You can bet the farm, and your sainted mother's farm as well if she has one, that there is nothing untoward in U-M landing Chris Barnett. Coaches depend on info coming in from knowledgable people - always have, always will.

BadgerSports did a 7-7 on the U-M campus last year, nothing wrong with that - they rented the facility, U-M was not involved.

So Baron Flemory tells U-M about Chris Barnett - nothing wrong with that.

But the baby and the bath water are getting mixed up now, as I kinda feared it would, as the race to be part of this story rushes ahead.

I'll be surprised, BTW, if Flenory has done anything wrong, period. But because he runs the BadgerSports 7-7's and knows these kids, he's an easy target (plus Oregon bought his recruiting service, and Flenory knows Kelly who {evidently?} paid Riles for kids}. Baron Flenory seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time right now - and that is certainly the case wrt Chris Barnett.

If the NCAA wants to stop the spring-summer non-HS-team 7-7's (and AAU basketball as well then), let them. Or if they want the 7-7's to not-be on college campuses, let them make that rule. Whatever they want to do.

**But -- this is about a knowledgable guy giving a piece of info to a coaching staff -- these is nothing unethical about that whatsoever. That's how recruiting properly operates.
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that's inuendo for ya ... just pick the factoid you want and run with it
kn212003 wrote: Story never mentions that Arky had about 5 too many recruits and possibly pulled Barnett's ship.
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Dunno if U-M bought Flenory's recruiting list, altho they've tended to stay away from that because they're generally not worth it, they're not well done ....

... however, it's not illegal whatsoever for the schools that buy them -- that's how Flenory makes his living (besides the 7-7's) -- not 'representing kids' but making up early scouting lists of tons of kids that schools might want to recruit ...

As I say the lists are generally poor in quality because the kids aren't well-scouted (or aren't scouted whatsoever) by most of these early-season list-makers.

(Cute that U-M has caught flack for not buying these lists -- lol.)

trepps wrote: Nor do they mention whether Michigan paid for Flenory's service (I assume they did not). Of course they mention Oregon's payment which is completely irrelevant to Barnett choosing UM, but the Oregon payment now looks bad so it taints all parties.

Nor do they mention the fact that Hoke had like 2 weeks to visit 2 dozen kids and so they they may not have talked to Barnett's dad simply because they did not have time or just didn't know who he was.
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Defending Flenory and extolling his services as the right way to recruit? (in conjunction with his 'righteous in a world of sinners' mantra about UM?)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6179423
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2011/03/oregon_ducks_say_we_have_nothi.html
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