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2011 SEC Football Discussion

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SmoovP;1956131; said:
Trophies in the Arkansas Razorback trophy case:

Football National Champion in 1964
13 Conference Championships in 1936, 1946, 1954, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1968, 1975, 1979, 1988, 1989

By comparison, LSU has 3 NCs and 13 conference championships. That's not that big a gap for a math genius such as yourself, but I'm feeling generous and will go ahead and tell you so you don't have to take off your shoes - it's a difference of 2.
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congrats on winning a few conf titles before signing up for big boy football.
let me know when you catch Vandy in SEC titles.

SmoovP;1956131; said:
NCAA Basketball Tournament Winner in 1994
24 Conference Championships in 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936, 1938, 1941, 1942, 1944, 1949, 1950, 1958, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994
29 NCAA Tournament appearances in 1941, 1945, 1949, 1958, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008 including 1 Runner Up, 6 Final Fours, 10 Elite Eights, 10 Sweet Sixteens

By comparison, LSU claims one pre-tournament championship in 1935 and has 11 conference championships, with 20 NCAA Tournament appearances. Even a math genius like you can eventually figure out we have a few more trophies in our case than you.
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the thread title says "football"


SmoovP;1956131; said:
National Champion Men's Indoor Track: 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006
National Champion Men's Outdoor Track: 1985, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2003
National Champion Men's Cross-Country: 1984, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 200
That, for your information, is a grand total of 40 National Championships. I won't bother with the Conference Championships

By comparison, LSU has 7.
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this isn't football either

SmoovP;1956131; said:
CWS Baseball Appearances in 1979, 1985, 1987, 1989, 2004, 2009
NCAA Tournament Appearances in 1973, 1979, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
Conference Champions in 1950, 1985, 1999, 2004

By way of comparison, LSU is a dominant baseball program with 6 National Championships, 15 CWS appearances, 24 NCAA Tournament appearances and 18 conference championships. I salute your superiority in this area.
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still not football, but I do thank you for saluting our sucess in baseball.

SmoovP;1956131; said:
So, let's look at the all time NCAA National Championships list:
#9 LSU - 45
#11 Arkansas - 42
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we have 3 times as many in football as y'all do.

SmoovP;1956131; said:
So you see, coonass, that statement about the paucity of the Razorback trophy case is demonstrably incorrect like practically everything else that comes our of your facial orifice.
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um...football
hell even Auburn fans can brag about having a case full of swimming/diving trophies.
but they don't mean shit when discussing football.




SmoovP;1956131; said:
Have you ever actually watched a Les Miles coached game? For God's sake, even the games he wins have moments of epic stupidity. That idiot is the beneficiary of what Nick Saban built and all he had to do was to show up and yell "MooooOOOOOooooo" to win 9 games a year.

Les Miles gets by because you guys have an astounding amount of talent. Being located in one of the most talent rich states in the country will do that for a fella.

Why you suppose he wouldn't go home to Michigan, smart guy? I reckon it's because he figures A) rebuilding is hard out there for a pimp. B) y'all aren't smart enough to know any better and C) recruiting.

In all seriousness, Les Miles gets on thing right - one thing that he might be better at than any other single coach in the country: He believes in his players absolutely, and more often than not, they reward him for that faith by rescuing him from his own idiocy.
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he wins games.
which to me is more important than how coherent his post game pressers are, or how much grass he eats, or anything else he gets fucked with about.




SmoovP;1956131; said:
OK, it's time to put up or shut up.

Do the math. Take the Razorbacks out of the LSU schedule and replace them with a similar team. Figure the percentages. Then do the same with the Razorback schedule, taking LSU out and replacing them with a similar team. Figure the percentages. Compare the two and see if you get any significant deviation from the results quoted in the original article.

The LSU program, all things considered, isn't what you think it is.
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do you even read what you write?

if we replace Arky with someone similar to Arky on our schedule, the replace LSU with someone similar to LSU on your schedule..well no shit the results would be similar.

The proper way to do it would be to replace LSU with a team similar to Arky on your schedule.
The replace Arky with a team similar to LSU on our schedule.

then you would see the difference.
 
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ok, I'm too lazy to go through each of our schedules to replace teams, etc.

so here are our records

2003:
LSU 13-1
Arky 9-4

teams who played LSU gets a bigger SoS boost than teams who played Arky

2004:
LSU 9-3
Arky 5-6

teams who played LSU gets a bigger SoS boost than teams who played Arky

2005:
LSU 11-2
Arky 4-7

teams who played LSU gets a bigger SoS boost than teams who played Arky

2006:
LSU 11-2
Arky 10-4

finished with same reg season record, so this one is a push

2007
LSU 12-2
Arky 8-5

teams who played LSU gets a bigger SoS boost than teams who played Arky

2008
LSU 8-5
Arky 5-7

teams who played LSU gets a bigger SoS boost than teams who played Arky

2009
LSU 9-4
Arky 8-5

close enough, we'll call this one a push

2010
LSU 11-2
Arky 10-3

same reg season record. another push



so there you go.

Arky's SoS improves exactly 0 times if they played a team equivalent to themselves instead of LSU

LSU's SoS improves 5 times if they played a team equivalent to themselves instead of Arky


3 times it was about the same either way
 
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Nutriaitch;1956141; said:
do you even read what you write?

if we replace Arky with someone similar to Arky on our schedule, the replace LSU with someone similar to LSU on your schedule..well no [Mark May] the results would be similar.

The proper way to do it would be to replace LSU with a team similar to Arky on your schedule.
The replace Arky with a team similar to LSU on our schedule.

then you would see the difference.
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I disagree, but even so, prove it. Do the math your way. If I'm wrong and it makes a significant statistical difference in our yearly and cumulative SOS, I'll be happy to concede your point.

Still, it's curious that in the dates in question that Arkansas is 3-5 vs. LSU.

If y'all are so many light years ahead of us, how do you account for that?
 
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Nutriaitch;1956153; said:
so there you go.

Arky's SoS improves exactly 0 times if they played a team equivalent to themselves instead of LSU

LSU's SoS improves 5 times if they played a team equivalent to themselves instead of Arky


3 times it was about the same either way
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Do you know how Strength Of Schedule (SOS) is calculated?

Are you operating under the impression that it is determined by your win/loss record?
 
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SmoovP;1956160; said:
Do you know how Strength Of Schedule (SOS) is calculated?

Are you operating under the impression that it is determined by your win/loss record?
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it is not strictly won/loss record, but I stated previously I'm too god dam lazy to plug in all of our opponents and all of our opponents opponents and all of their records to figure out the whole thing.

but since won loss is 2/3 of the equation, and most of our opponents are the same damn teams (except we get multi-national champ Florida, while y'all get the Arky of the east in So. Carolina) we really don't have to go through all of that mess.


Plain and simple playing against LSU 2003-2010 is worth more points to SoS than playing Arky over the same stretch.
 
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SmoovP;1956131; said:
So, let's look at the all time NCAA National Championships list:
#9 LSU - 45
#11 Arkansas - 42

So you see, coonass, that statement about the paucity of the Razorback trophy case is demonstrably incorrect like practically everything else that comes our of your facial orifice.
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Is that really supposed to be smack?

"We're almost as good as you over a 75-year period!"

And OSU was more than a few plays better than Arky this January: a near-miss is still a miss.

:osu:
 
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SmoovP;1955662; said:
This is ludicrous on all levels.

...God-forsaken Baton Rouge...The very same Nick Saban who got his happy ass out of your shithole school, your cesspool town and your septic tank state like his ass was on fire and his head was catching...
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Did they move Arkansas? Never been to Baton Rouge, but it can't be so bad that someone from Arkansas can talk shit about it, can it?
 
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