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2011 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

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Good grief. Gators are between Miami and FSU for how poorly we did since 2002 - and we won two MNCs and were a Bama loss from playing for a third.....

I have to say that putting our program's Glory Days years in a group labeled as "under-achieving" per recruiting classes makes it hard for me to take this list seriously.
 
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[quote='BusNative;186426;1]Sorry if discussed, but....

Curtis Grant is the #46 player overall on the ESPN 150... yet he's #9 overall on Scout (#1 OLB) and #2 overall on Rivals (#1 LB)... really?

That's all I have to say about that... carry on...[/quote]
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Gatorubet;1862937; said:
Good grief. Gators are between Miami and FSU for how poorly we did since 2002 - and we won two MNCs and were a Bama loss from playing for a third.....

I have to say that putting our program's Glory Days years in a group labeled as "under-achieving" per recruiting classes makes it hard for me to take this list seriously.
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Yeah, but when Florida hasn't been ripping off 13-1 seasons they've usually only been pretty good since 2002: I didn't realize until I just looked it up how many 3+ loss seasons the Gators have had in the last decade... But there's no question they recruited very well during that period, so this list seems to highlight more consistent -achieving.
 
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BayBuck;1864343; said:
Yeah, but when Florida hasn't been ripping off 13-1 seasons they've usually only been pretty good since 2002: I didn't realize until I just looked it up how many 3+ loss seasons the Gators have had in the last decade... But there's no question they recruited very well during that period, so this list seems to highlight more consistent -achieving.
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Since 2000 we have the 9th winningest program in the country. I guess we are only pretty good, but there are over a hundred programs looking up at both of our programs with jealous eyes.
 
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Gatorubet;1864353; said:
Since 2000 we have the 9th winningest program in the country. I guess we are only pretty good, but there are over a hundred programs looking up at both of our programs with jealous eyes.
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The stats say what someone makes them say: no need getting defensive about an article clearly written to make the home-town (VT) team look good. The point is that even more teams look up to Florida as a recruiting power, and at #2 in recruiting there's not a whole lot of room for overachieving on the field.

And obviously Florida's NCs bring up their overall program status above "pretty good", no doubt they are a top-5 program nationally these days, but in the recent years they haven't gone 13-1, several Gator seasons were only pretty good--and those ones might be called underachievers.
 
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Gatorubet;1864353; said:
Since 2000 we have the 9th winningest program in the country. I guess we are only pretty good, but there are over a hundred programs looking up at both of our program with jealous eyes.
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But the data sees 3 very bad seasons (5-losses) & 1 fairly bad one.

A more discerning eye realizes the consistency under Meyer overshadows the Zook era, but I don't think this chart is invalid because of that weakness.
 
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Gatorubet;1862937; said:
Good grief. Gators are between Miami and FSU for how poorly we did since 2002 - and we won two MNCs and were a Bama loss from playing for a third.....

I have to say that putting our program's Glory Days years in a group labeled as "under-achieving" per recruiting classes makes it hard for me to take this list seriously.
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During the time listed, Florida has had the second best recruiting haul out of the 29 schools listed (behind only USC), yet only had the seventh best winning percentage. Ohio State had the 12th best of the 29 (barely in the top half), yet was the clear #1 in winning percentage. Not only that, Florida has been highly inconsistent in its records, while few, if any, teams can match Ohio State's consistency:

2001: 7-5
2002: 14-0
2003: 11-2
2004: 8-4
2005: 10-2
2006: 12-1
2007: 11-2
2008: 10-3
2009: 11-2
2010: 12-1

Since JT's 7-5 record in his first year here, he has won 10+ games in eight of nine years, and top-5 finishes in seven of those nine. Florida has four 5-loss seasons during the same timespan, while finishing unranked three years and ranked 24th another.
 
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u left the door open for the haters to come back w/ the "that's b/c OSU plays in the Big 10" argument......LMAO. "You do realize that if they played a schedule like the SEC does every week OSU would have 5 losses every year".....LMAO even harder.

Go Bucks!!!
 
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mendensa;1864506; said:
u left the door open for the haters to come back w/ the "that's b/c OSU plays in the Big 10" argument......LMAO. "You do realize that if they played a schedule like the SEC does every week OSU would have 5 losses every year".....LMAO even harder.

Go Bucks!!!
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I don't think you'd have five losses every year. You guys have an elite school and an elite coach.

And no offense, but I don't think you'd have come close to matching your current streak of six conference championship wins if you played in the SEC.

And that statement is in no way meant as an insult to your program, or the very impressive accomplishment in winning the Big-10 six times in a row.
 
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Well considering we "won" a share of the BigTen a few years there despite losing to the team we shared it with, I think it stands to reason that we'd have a few holes in that streak even if we just had to play a BigTen championship game. So yeah, I don't think you'd get too many arguments that we'd have a much tougher go of stringing conference championships together if we were in the SEC. I have all the BigTen pride in the world, but anyone trying to argue that the SEC isn't a stronger conference is delusional.
 
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Gatorubet said:
I don't think you'd have five losses every year. You guys have an elite school and an elite coach.

And no offense, but I don't think you'd have come close to matching your current streak of six conference championship wins if you played in the SEC.

And that statement is in no way meant as an insult to your program, or the very impressive accomplishment in winning the Big-10 six times in a row.
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While i totally agree....

If we were in the SEC, I would presume we would be in the South....
therefore be recruiting players with southern speed and not slow northerners, thus being even more elite.

Something to think about.
 
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