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2011 Offensive Line Discussion

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I couldn't find a 2012 OL thread and didn't want to start it with my question....

OH10;2097529; said:
Ohio State should never NEED an offensive linemen this much.
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About this (pulled from the Dodson thread), do any of the "insiders" have any insight into WTF the previous coaches were thinking in regards to OL recruiting?

Surely they had to see that there no real LT for 2012, but they didn't address it all? Or are you all just as puzzled as everyone else?
 
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There is no explanation, really.

They swung for the fences at tackle and struck out (ie Henderson), but meanwhile were bringing in guys that had no business trying their hand at tackle, at least not early.

Then they forgot that beggars can't be choosers, deciding to pass on Decker, who could not get anyone to return his calls.

That one surpasses the infamous snubbing of Kris O'Dowd. At least in that case, they had Brewster & his epic haul coming in the next class, and a very good one a year after that. Even though they had reservations about Decker, they needed him badly as a depth guy if nothing else.
 
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jwinslow;2097561; said:
Fickell wasn't granted the power to have his finger on most things.
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Fickell didn't really have the power to get a new offensive coordinator. (Or maybe it was just too late in the season.)

Fickell didn't have the power to higher a new coach to replace the slot freed up by Tressel. (Or maybe it was just too late in the season.)
 
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maximumblitz;2097956; said:
Fickell didn't really have the power to get a new offensive coordinator. (Or maybe it was just too late in the season.)

Fickell didn't have the power to higher a new coach to replace the slot freed up by Tressel. (Or maybe it was just too late in the season.)
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hire
 
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BB73;2098011; said:
A look at who returns along the O-Line.

11W
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* disclaimer * this is not an attempt to skirt the Bollman thread lock... just a good look at OL recruiting by Ramzy

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/02/on-the-turning-away


On the Turning Away
By Ramzy Nasrallah - 06 February 2012

The interpretations began flying in from all directions almost immediately after Bret Bielema's unnecessarily public sour grapes moment. Accusing Urban Meyer of illegal recruiting - while providing no specifics to the allegation - is impossible to do quietly, so Bielema couldn't have expected no one to notice.

He also shouldn't have expected any sympathy, though it's hard to read what his intentions might have been. If they were to appear pedantic and bitter, he succeeded.

Consensus opinion was that Meyer was simply planting the flag for the new one-team SEC North. He was just more aggressive and ruthless than the crotchety B1G coaches were accustomed to. Bielema alleged that it had long been customary to back off of recruits once they verbally committed to a fellow conference member, and Meyer was not making nice with the other children

Any notion of a legitimate gentleman's agreement is fly-covered crap, regardless of what Mark Dantonio also said about such a fantasy. A coach who concedes a recruit he actually wants to a rival is a coach that loves to lose, regardless of conference.

Those alibis are all fine only if you begin with the caricature of B1G coaches as a group of provincial aristocrats content to being the champions of farmland, versus recent SEC coaches like Meyer who prefer to go Alexander the Great over all time zones. There's a degree of truth to that. At least there has been.

However, lost in what turned into universal scorn toward Bielema were some crucial backstories. As has become customary for Ohio State stories floating around the media, important information was missing; details that provide additional tips into Bielema's frustration...
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What I found most interesting:

...During the Tressel era, Ohio high school football produced 23 eventual NFL offensive line draft picks. That's nearly two dozen professional blockers from the Buckeye state.
This embarrassment of homegrown riches - in a state where most of the kids, like Dodson, grow up dreaming of becoming Buckeyes - sent exactly two guards and two tackles to Tressel teams...
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I'm not a big Bollman basher, but the recruiting numbers are a little shocking.
 
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I made a comment about the "laziness" of the previous staff when it came to recruiting and this is exactly what I was talking about. Maybe laziness is the wrong word, but I can't think of another one. Complacency maybe?

Yes Coach Tressel won a TON of games and I have loved the last 10 years, but, imo, the shortcomings of the previous staff have been put under a spotlight given the recruiting of the new staff.
 
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ysubuck;2105445; said:
I made a comment about the "laziness" of the previous staff when it came to recruiting and this is exactly what I was talking about. Maybe laziness is the wrong word, but I can't think of another one. Complacency maybe?

Yes Coach Tressel won a TON of games and I have loved the last 10 years, but, imo, the shortcomings of the previous staff have been put under a spotlight given the recruiting of the new staff.
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Unfortunately, if you use this lens to view the situation, unfortunately you'll never be happy with another coaching staff again, more than likely.

Having said that, the OL recruting philosophy was head scratching at best. Keep in mind the previous crew not recruting Decker vs. Meyer making him a top priority isn't an issue of complacency or laziness.
 
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BusNative said:
* disclaimer * this is not an attempt to skirt the Bollman thread lock... just a good look at OL recruiting by Ramzy

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/02/on-the-turning-away



What I found most interesting:
...During the Tressel era, Ohio high school football produced 23 eventual NFL offensive line draft picks. That's nearly two dozen professional blockers from the Buckeye state.
This embarrassment of homegrown riches - in a state where most of the kids, like Dodson, grow up dreaming of becoming Buckeyes - sent exactly two guards and two tackles to Tressel teams...
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I'm not a big Bollman basher, but the recruiting numbers are a little shocking.
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Am I reading this wrong or is Nick Mangold (C) omitted here?
 
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