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2011-2012 Men's Buckeye Basketball (Final Four Season)

I'm not trying to argue the point, and I agreed that Sam's defensive effort was better than anyone else's (including Craft). But, the Bucks FAILED to stop Paul from scoring more than a point per minute. A POINT PER MINUTE. No one's D was "great". Our standards need to be higher than that.
 
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Yertle;2089234; said:
I'm not trying to argue the point, and I agreed that Sam's defensive effort was better than anyone else's (including Craft). But, the Bucks FAILED to stop Paul from scoring more than a point per minute. A POINT PER MINUTE. No one's D was "great". Our standards need to be higher than that.

im not going to argue any further either...but some of the shots paul was taking and making, bruce bowen would of not been able to stop
 
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The team needs better perimeter defense: Paul was going to get his points, but shit!

Perhaps expectations were a little too high after watching them break that plunger off in Duke's ass. I know that I had visions of a Final Four afterwards. Thad (like Oz for the hockey team) is going to need to do some of his best coaching over the next two weeks.
 
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I think there's more of that than the team will ever admit. The lone senior is very soft-spoken, the junior is a transfer, and the rest of the team is sophomores and freshmen. Mashing Duke probably got these young guys a bit over-confident... including Sully and Craft. These kids need to step it up. That, and we need to find a consistent outside threat. Was really hoping Sibert would be the man there, but he hasn't proven consistent enough yet. We'll see.
 
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B. Paul going off for 43 was awful. But I think it was probably similar to L Smith Jr going for 28.
Paul came in with a 12 point average, shooting 23% on 3-pointers. So he goes 8 for 10 behind the arc, and we kept expecting him to cool off and he never did.
To me, the biggest difference in our d this year is our perimeter guys know that Lauderdale is not back there this year, so they are not defending tightly outside the arc, or not much outside the arc.
Rightly so, too, 'cause I don't want Sully to load up on fouls because guards are driving the lane.
 
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One thing that I regarded as a bit of a negative at the time, but now see it as a positive, is the rebounding margin against Nebraska. We seldom are outrebounded, but this game was one in which it may have made sense to let the aggressive NU frontcourt get its boards. Had we been more aggressive, Sully and Deshaun likely would have been in foul trouble - and it was good to have them available at all times they were needed.

Winning by 34, it seems like our decision-making must have been pretty sound. :tongue2:
 
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Sunday January 29, 2012 4:16PM
Andy Glockner
Ohio State continues its run under the radar by beating Michigan

The curious case of the Ohio State Buckeyes continued on Sunday when they slowly and methodically pulled away from a solid Michigan team to win 64-49 at home. Lacking much drama or many signature moments, it's the latest in a long string of comprehensive performances that will draw a collective "ho hum" from the masses. Instead, it should be considered the latest piece of evidence that the Buckeyes are one of the biggest threats to take down this season's NCAA title.

The Buckeyes-as-afterthought process started as early as last spring, when the news that projected lottery pick Jared Sullinger was returning for his sophomore season was swamped by the decisions of North Carolina's three stars to return to Chapel Hill. Add in Kentucky's annual haul of prodigious freshmen to go with Terrence Jones also electing to pass the lockout-threatened pro season, and Ohio State was third in both of the preseason polls, with just one first-place vote combined.

North Carolina vacated the throne when it lost by a point at Kentucky, but when Kentucky then lost at Indiana on the same day that Ohio State (sans Sullinger) lost at Kansas, the Buckeyes -- even with two commanding wins over top-10 teams -- were jumped by Syracuse and its shiny unbeaten record. When the Buckeyes then lost at Indiana by four, they somehow dropped four and five spots to No. 6/7 in the polls. A third defeat, this time at Illinois thanks to the outlier-of-all-outlier explosions from Brandon Paul, more or less pushed the Buckeyes into the shadow of the national conscience.

All of that is a shame and shows the foolishness of polls, because so far this season, Ohio State may be the best team in the nation. After polishing off Florida and Duke in nonconference play, the Buckeyes are absolutely destroying the nation's best and deepest conference.

cont..

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../ohio.state.michigan/index.html#ixzz1kt8G7Bnz
 
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Clark Kellogg's weighs in on the Buckeyes

CBS analyst Clark Kellogg sees the Ohio State men?s basketball team ?coming on,? mostly because of the way the Buckeyes are playing defensively.

?With the way they defended against Indiana and guarded on Sunday (against Michigan), it bodes well for them going into the crucible of conference play and the tournament,? Kellogg said. ?I see a team that?s made a greater commitment to the little things defensively. ? They were clocked in defensively (against Michigan).?

But the former Ohio State star does see some difficult matchups for them in the postseason.

?Kentucky would be a hard matchup for them because Anthony Davis can play Jared (Sullinger) by himself,? Kellogg said. ?They don?t have to (double-team) him, and they have a couple of other bodies they can throw in there. ? Baylor would be a hard matchup because of their length and athleticism, and they can score at different positions. The same with Syracuse and (North) Carolina ? not that (the Buckeyes) couldn?t overcome it.?
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2012/02/03/rumblings-2-3-art-g86fsvme-1.html
 
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Did not want to put this in the Wisconsin game thread but it is interesting reading.

By Bob Baptist

One team does it with a supply of lithe, long-limbed athletes using their God-given gifts to apply suffocating pressure, which forces opponents into turnovers and rushed shots.

The other team does it without the awe factor ? fewer natural athletes, more detail-oriented technicians, always a few of hearty German stock that a few media types have dubbed the ?Luftwaffe.?

?No question about it,? Penn State coach Patrick Chambers said with a laugh, ?they?re definitely two ends of the spectrum.?

Their defenses, though, are at the same end ? the top end.

Ohio State and Wisconsin bring the two most effective defenses in college basketball into their game today, with first place in the Big Ten on the line.

The Badgers have allowed fewer points per game (49.5) than anyone in Division I, but that yield is skewed by the fact that they play fewer possessions per game than anyone else. The Buckeyes have allowed six more points per game, but their average of 0.81 of a point per opponent possession is the best in the nation. Wisconsin?s average of 0.83 ranks second.

They use different styles to accomplish the same goal.

?I think the biggest thing for both of them is they protect the lane and they do not foul,? Illinois coach Bruce Weber said. ?I think they foul more than last year, both of them, but they still limit putting you at the line.?
Each team is allowing about 14 free throws per game.

?They also play great transition defense,? Weber said. ?Part of transition defense is taking care of the basketball and taking good shots and not putting themselves in a bind where if you turn it over ? it?s two-on-one or three-on-one and it?s tough to stop.?

Both teams rank among the top 25 nationally in turnover percentage, as well as the percentage of rebounds they grab off their defensive boards.
?Neither team gives up too many second-shot opportunities,? Nebraska coach Doc Sadler said.

?It all adds up,? Weber said. ?That?s the style that has been successful in our league: being patient, taking good shots, taking care of the basketball, which also leads to good defense on the other end.? Protester

The teams use different means to that same end, though. Ohio State is by far the more daunting team getting off the bus.

?The Ohio State length is really an issue,? Indiana coach Tom Crean said. ?What Ohio State does is just really get up into you and force you to make basketball plays, force you to create space, and because of that length, they make the next pass look a little bit harder.

?Wisconsin?s defense is a little bit more inside the three-point line. They do an excellent job of getting into your body on post touches, and they do an excellent job of using their chest to try to create that contact rather than using their length. And I think Wisconsin does a little more switching (on screens).?
more
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2012/02/04/different-defenses-but-same-results.html
 
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We have several excellent defenders who can come off the bench - Scott, Thompson and Weatherspoon. But nobody who has demonstrated a consistent ability to create his own scoring opportunity.

That's the only thing that troubles me about this team once we've gone deep into the NCAA tournament. And we will.
 
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MaxBuck;2104097; said:
We have several excellent defenders who can come off the bench - Scott, Thompson and Weatherspoon. But nobody who has demonstrated a consistent ability to create his own scoring opportunity.

That's the only thing that troubles me about this team once we've gone deep into the NCAA tournament. And we will.
I think the answer is to push the ball..Thompson JD can only really finish at the rim..in the half court its basically Sully ..Thomas cleans up the garbage..if Buford isn't scoring we need points somewhere..I'd be up tempo on offense and defense against any team with less physical talent than us. The teams that scare me are the KY's, KU,Baylor, Ok State.teams that can match up with our physicality.
 
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