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2010 TSUN News (in-season)

It is hard for those of us who don't work on quantum physics to grasp the magnitude of further suck the scUM defense will reach if Martin is out. It will be like a super massive black hole of suck as compared to your garden variety normal black hole of suck.

I (half) seriously wonder if Wisconsin will call a pass. If they do it will be just for fun, they won't actually need to.
 
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Jaxbuck;1789451; said:
It is hard for those of us who don't work on quantum physics to grasp the magnitude of further suck the scUM defense will reach if Martin is out. It will be like a super massive black hole of suck as compared to your garden variety normal black hole of suck.

I (half) seriously wonder if Wisconsin will call a pass. If they do it will be just for fun, they won't actually need to.

so it will go from 530 yards given up to around 600 yards and maybe from 42 points to 52 points.

Eh, maybe a little difference.
 
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zwem;1789459; said:
so it will go from 530 yards given up to around 600 yards and maybe from 42 points to 52 points.

Eh, maybe a little difference.


John Clay would face sodomy charges in 48 states for what he'll do to that defense without Martin. With Martin, its probably legal in the south.
 
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Jaxbuck;1789462; said:
John Clay would face sodomy charges in 48 states for what he'll do to that defense without Martin. With Martin, its probably legal in the south.

Come on Jax. You know Wisconsin is going to put points up on Michigan with or without Martin. It was the same for Graham last year. Graham had a hell of year and was double or tripled team last year. It doesn't mean shit if the rest of the d sucks.
 
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha28dVYVn6c&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Denard Robinson - MSU Postgame[/ame]#!

One thing I'll say, the kid is definitely enjoying himself...even after an ass-whupping he's still smiling. Take away those awful colors and he's a kid I'd love to see succeed...unfortunately, he's wearing piss & blue and I think the media has kind of "Tebowned" him this year. I love the media there trying to goad him into a "dirty play by msu" quote...:roll1:


AND OMG THAT HAIR!!!!!!!11!!1!!
 
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Interesting post from EFWolverine (who I think has posterd here in the past) over on umgoblue.com:

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I guess this is where I pull a Joe Lieberman and break away from my party because of one crucial issue.

Well, here goes. I know some people here look forward to what I have to say. I already posted a blog post about it. A lot of what I say here will be a repeat of that.

So...

I suppose I kept blinders on because I've met the man in person on more than one occasion and I've spent enough time around people close to him to know he's not the immoral thug he's portrayed in the media. I know he's a good, decent person who was dealt a very unfair hand and has been treated like garbage by some very agenda-driven people in certain positions of power.

But the fact is this: Rich Rodriguez is one of the top 5 offensive minds in college football, and would be an amazing offensive coordinator at a high level BCS school, or an elite head coach under the proper circumstances at a non-BCS school.

But as a high level BCS coach, he is a failure, because he is guilty of almost criminal negligence on the defensive side of the ball. The "spread doesn't work in the Big 10" argument is a stupid one that holds no truth to it whatsoever. Rich and his assistants on the offensive side of the ball have done a great, great job turning around the flaming trainwreck they were handed two years ago. The current Michigan offensive line still isn't 100% Rich and Greg Frey, but it's the best offensive line Michigan's had in a decade. It's a mishmash unit at RB with decent, but not elite, players. The wideouts are dependable, not spectacular. Denard Robinson is an electric playmaker who was offered as an athlete by a bunch of schools, and Rich, Calvin Magee and Rod Smith saw the tools and intangibles in him that could be molded into a legitimately deadly spread offense QB.

But everything Rich has done right on the offensive side of the ball - the stubborn dedication to installing his system no matter what, recruiting specific types of players to fit that system and tirelessly working to make sure it was done right - he has failed at every aspect of that on the other side. And that just can't happen in order to be the head coach at a place like Michigan. Rich spends no time with the defense in practice, and yet he is responsible for the defense somehow being worse as his tenure goes on.

In 2008, he brought Tony Gibson and Bruce Tall with him from West Virginia, hired Jay Hopson from Southern Miss to coach linebackers, and hired Scott Shafer from Stanford to be defensive coordinator. When Shafer arrived, he had a reputation of being a blitz-heavy lunatic whose defenses racked up sacks by the bunches. And as the 2008 season unfolded, Michigan's defense was curiously passive, opting to drop into soft, bull**** zones instead of sending the house after the QB. What happened? Well, midway through the season, Rich's boys - most notably Gibson - essentially cut Shafer's balls off and took control of the defense, to the point where Shafer was literally excluded from defensive staff meetings. Rich stood by and allowed this to happen. This culminated in the Purdue game that saw Michigan's defense give up 48 points and 522 yards to a Boilermakers offense quarterbacked by a third string freshman who was a wide receiver weeks earlier.

After the season, Shafer was fired, rendering any bleak lessons and schemes taught to the players during the season as useless. Shafer's now the defensive coordinator for the 15th-ranked defense in the country at Syracuse.

So enter Greg Robinson. The scheme wasn't radically different, just tweaked, with new terminology and some new assignments. For the most part it was a 3-4 or a 4-3 under. There were still very noticeable personnel deficiencies at certain spots, and to the surprise of no one, the defense crumbled into another smoldering mess by the end of the 2009 season, with the safety and linebacker spots being especially embarrassing. This time, the chopping block came down on linebackers coach Jay Hopson. By the end of 2008, the linebackers were halfway decent. For whatever reason, the coaching Hopson gave them didn't mesh with Robinson, and both Obi Ezeh and Jonas Mouton regressed badly in 2009, both of them putting forth multiple embarrassing efforts. So Hopson was let go and went to Memphis.

Rodriguez's solution? He promoted a quality control staffer from within from the WVU days, and "recommended" to Robinson that the defense make the adjustment to a 3-3-5 scheme with terminology used from the West Virginia days. It is here that the Michigan fans crying for Greg Robinson to be fired are misguided. The defense we're running now isn't Greg Robinson's design. He is not helping matters, but this is not his defense. It's Rich Rodriguez's bastard child, and it's an abomination. He has failed to dedicate this program to any specific scheme or direction on the defensive side of the ball. In a sense, he was doomed from the start, when Jeff Casteel turned down the job to stay at WVU. BTW, West Virginia's defense is currently ranked 7th in the country.

He also was foolish enough to go to the 3-3-5 at the start of Year THREE. That's bad enough after the Shafer debacle. Worse when you consider that Rocky Long, one of the gurus of the 3-3-5 defense, was available after the 2008 season, having resigned from New Mexico. Yet for some reason Rich has decided to push this scheme on a coordinator who doesn't know it and a team entirely ill-equipped to run it. Forcing a scheme on the wrong personnel is annoying, but understandable....if this was his first year on the job and not his third. But to force a scheme on this defense...

The "strength" of Michigan's defense, if there is one, is the defensive line. Yet we are running a scheme that takes a lineman off the field. The worst part of the defense is the secondary. Yet we are running a scheme that puts an extra DB on the field. The linebackers are timid, slow to react and can't shed blocks. Yet we are running a scheme that relies on linebackers to react quickly to fill the gaps created by the defensive line's slants.

Lloyd Carr left this team with some very irritating gaps; specifically at safety and linebacker (talking just defense here). But under Rich Rodriguez's "guidance", every single thing about the defense has swirled the drain. There is not a single redeeming quality here. They aren't strong, they aren't fast, they don't tackle well, they don't take proper angles, they don't play assignment football, they don't contain, they don't force turnovers, they don't do ANYTHING. They simply occupy space until the offense has to take the field again.

Funny, since I think that might be Rich's attitude toward defense in general.

I hate that I'm saying this. I like the guy. Like I said, he's a good person. But after witnessing that fiasco yesterday, it's clear to me now that this is a problem that will not be fixed.

So...fire away, folks. I don't have any more excuses. I'm done defending this incompetence.

Echoes almost word-for-word what many of us have said here many times over...
 
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Ohio State will have to put the TSUN players through a metal detector again this year. You may have missed the obvious conclusion when Denard Robinson claimed that he was "not the only weapon on offense". Clearly, TSUN players on that side of the ball must be carrying other weapons, maybe guns and knives, onto the field.

Err to the side of caution and bring back those sniffer dogs.
 
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NFBuck;1789903; said:
Interesting post from EFWolverine (who I think has posterd here in the past) over on umgoblue.com:

(blah, blah, blah ...)

Echoes almost word-for-word what many of us have said here many times over...
Bullshit. No one here has ever said Rodriguez is a "good person."
 
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Yesterday was pretty fun, I watched it at an all Sparty tailgate :tongue2:

Grats to MSU, they played like the game actually mattered to them and we just weren't that focused for most of the game. I think effort wise MSU has outplayed Michigan for like the past 10 years, just in the past we had the talent + execution to overcome that.. Not so these past three years...

oh well, on to Iowa week!
 
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