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2010 TSUN arguments & shenanigans (in-season)

So no more gator chomp? No more Tomohawk chop? No more Fight On hands? No more Baylor Claws? No more Oregon O?

Better yet, no more que dawg flex...raising the roof to get the crowd loud...etc etc. Pathetic refereeing that's getting away with legislating the spirit of the game.
 
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Posted: Yesterday 9:35 PM
Re: Dee-Committed............
Well Congratulations to all who constantly flame on this board calling for RR's head, Maybe this will be a lesson to everyone that these kids have eyes and ears, they read the posts or hear from friends, YOU may have now become part of the problem, I Support THIS team, I Support THIS coach, I Support THIS AD, until they aren't a part of the Michigan family anymore....It's time we all act like "The Michigan Men" ,
 
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steve deace said:
This is the end

Jim Morrison wasn't writing about the Rich Rodriguez era of Michigan football, but he might as well have been.*If you've been keeping score in bed the last two weeks you've witnessed:

*Our allegedly business savvy and smarter than the average bear athletics director*mystifyingly leaving his head coach hanging out to dry in public at every opportunity*during the most vital time of the recruiting season.*

*Said coach then using*the football bust to all but publicly plea for his job if the numerous accounts I have read from those who were there are to be believed.

*What I'm sure*is the first (and hopefully last for the love of all that is holy) time that a Josh Groban ballad has ever been played at a football event.

*The potential loss of easily the most celebrated recruit in what so far, according to the recruiting experts (I know, substitute you're favorite oxymoron here), is the lowest ranked recruiting class most of us can remember.

At the rate this is circling the drain,*losing 37-7 to Ohio State will be the highlight of the last two weeks. Tom Goss called, and he doesn't necessarily think being a genius in business automatically makes you a wunderkind as an AD. Bill Martin is*so stressed out by this mess he's going windsurfing because it looks he picked the wrong day to give up smoking.

Brandon got a lot of deserved praise for how he handled the NCAA matter, but it's a lot easier cleaning up someone else's mess than it is cleaning up your own.

I've covered high level college sports up close for a decade so I've seen my share of dysfunctional*coaching situations. For the last five years I've also covered and analyzed national politics for national media outlets and one of the top 15 news talk radio stations in the United States of America with access to*Congressmen, Senators, and numerous presidential candidates.*I've seen people with supposedly impeccable credentials and vast resources who looked like they were immune to meltdowns pull out the figurative gun and shoot themselves in the foot because they were too smart by a half.

This is beginning to look a lot like that.

For once the current worrisome message board zeitgeist is well-founded if you ask me. If you're going to retain a coach, this is an awfully awkward way of doing it. Turning him into a hanging chad in front of the media and a karaoke crooner in front of his boosters and alumni*isn't a good way to set him up*for future success as your standard-bearer, but it*is a good way to make yourself look like someone that other coaches in the industry might not want to work for. If you're going to let a coach go, there are more dignified and efficient ways of doing so.

People have been comparing this to the Les Miles fiasco of 2007, which I don't agree with because*that is totally unfair to 2007. Our program is not as strong today as it was three years ago, so any similar type fiasco is prone to cause much more lasting damage.

For the first time I might actually side with those on this board who have said they wouldn't fault Rodriguez for just getting the h-e-double-hockey sticks out of town on his own accord. He's certainly responsible for his record, but he's not responsible for the uncertainty that continues to cause calamity in his program.

Brandon alone is accountable for that, and with each passing day he allows this college football version of a cliched reality show to go on it raises the expectation level for him to eventually show us he really is the proverbial sinister master mind who had it all figured out all along. Whoever Brandon ends up letting coach*this team in 2011, and at this point I would be shocked if it's Rodriguez, better end being*Bo Schembechler reincarnated.

There are moments in leadership when you set the tone for the remainder of your term. This is that moment for Brandon.

But I'll give him "credit" for this, in a backassward way he's managed to unite a Michigan fan base divided over what to do with Rodriguez because regardless of where you come down on that question no one wants to see this happen to the Michigan brand.
 
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It is unbelievable what a sad subset (i realize most see through his bs) of fans RR and gbw have produced.

After hearing about the blatant, humiliating manipulation employed by rr at the banquet from the sacrilegious abuse of scripture, the emasculating soundtrack and staged arm raising... to the helpless plea to be accepted as a michigan man.

What is the reaction?
God bless him. I'm as angry as anyone about the last 3 years but he is one hell of a guy and whether its here or somewhere else I hope he returns to the top, he deserves it.
He is a hard guy to root against. I will definitely root for the guy the rest of his coaching career, whether it be here or somewhere else. I have met and talked with him a few times, and he really is an exceptional human. I would be proud to send my son to any program he may be in charge of.
Thanks for sharing. *This melts my cynical stance. *
We would all admit, this is the kind of guy we want leading our program.*
Definition of integrity since day one... He's the kind of guy you want molding your young men. I think Higbe would, and does, agree.
Don't care what camp you're in. He deserves more time. No one should have to endure what he has, and we're so damn close. I'm pumped right now.
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Rich Rod always has had character and he goes after young men that show this same trait. This is something that cannot be taught, you either have it or you don't.

I believe that the parents of all these fine young men would agree and boy I sure would like to hear from one, some, or all of them right about now!
Good stuff*bro, thanks..THIS is one of the things I allude to when talking about the "big picture"..He has dealt with this whole 3 year kick in the balls with nothing but integrity...The class RR demonstrates is second-to-none...

*** He is one [censored]ed off, motivated guy right now(some due to record, some for all the hassles)* I wouldn't want to be on his schedule in the near future... I bet our team comes out after all this backdoor BS*and kicks some a$$ in the bowl game..I just want to win BAYBAY..GO BLUE...
Or when someone calls rich out for these pathetic stunts
Dolan3 wrote: What a circus. If you have to ask to be a Michigan man then you'll never be one. Country music and Hebrew reciting, lol can't help but laugh.
Elitist asshat backstabbing bastards like you should die in a fire.Go **** yourself.Sorry Tom, et al, I normally avoid swearing, but I just can't stand guys like this.
Not sure why hebrew lines are such a bad thing to quote...faith isn't just a Catholic thing.*

Supporter?* If anything you'd be in the same*league as*Rosenduesch.*

He's Jewish*btw.**
Dolan3 wrote: Lol yep. You all have me pinned correctly. Friends with Martin and I'm not the only one who thinks this way behind closed doors. Bigger supporter of this program then any of you will ever know.
Keep reciting those Hebrew lines, won't help you either way.
When a Michigan lover goes out and vents that things are terrible, you're not helping. If you're really All In, you're not going to go out and bash, it hurts recruiting.-RR
as for you dolan3, you are a* COWARD, you and your little friends hiding behind "closed" doors.* such power, oooooo, scary.* YOU are the Termites that Mr* Bo Schembechler referred to u f'ing pos!* Need to Tent the Athletic Dept and and Exterminate u!*
 
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Beaver;1826347; said:
It is unbelievable what a sad subset (i realize most see through his bs) of fans RR and gbw have produced.

After hearing about the blatant, humiliating manipulation employed by rr at the banquet from the sacrilegious abuse of scripture, the emasculating soundtrack and staged arm raising... to the helpless plea to be accepted as a michigan man.

What is the reaction?






Or when someone calls rich out for these pathetic stunts


Definition of integrity since day one...
How many NCAA infractions again? 4?

Rich Rod always has had character and he goes after young men that show this same trait.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXde0IG54iI"]YouTube - Demar Dorsey O LET DO IT.wmv[/ame]
 
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OMGbro;1786170; said:
This is a ridiculous, regurgitated argument that gets thoroughly discredited and proven to be a bunch of B.S. year after year via the NFL draft.

Speaking of offensive lineman, I suggest you re-watch some Michigan games from this year. Patrick Omameh is only a RS Soph. but he's probably the best NFL guard prospect in the entire B10 conference, he's only starting to scratch the surface. Taylor Lewan is only a RS Fr. that has started like 3 games and he just might be one of the best NFL LT prospect in the entire B10 conference. The guys from the O-Zone that write Michigan Monday rave about Lewan.

I also find it hysterical that you say Rich will never get elite recruits, when according to Rivals, in 2008 (his first recruiting class) 17 of Michigan's 24 signees were 4*'s. In 2009 (his second recruiting class) of Michigan's 22 signees, 14 of Michigan's signees were 4*'s, 1 was a 5*.

So what exactly is an elite recruit? 5*? Well, if you look at Rivals' rankings from the past, Michigan didn't exactly sign multiple 5*'s every year under Carr. It's not like we were USC.

According to Rivals rankings, Rich's recruiting took a little bit of a dip in 2010 and it's not off to a great start in 2011, but I think going 8-16 in his first two seasons, the talk of him getting fired, and the looming NCAA investigation probably had 99% to do with this fact.

Kids are going to want to go where they can win and where they can play. As long as Michigan can keep you know, winning games, and not implode, Rich's seat will be a lot less hot and he'll get his fair share of "elite" recruits, and he's about to get one this Friday when Dee Hart announces for Michigan. Hart, by the way, is rated as the #37 player in the country and the #1 All-Purpose RB in the nation by Rivals. Is that elite enough?
Still got any of that swag left, Bro?
 
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Groban mocks Rodriguez
He is the secret child between Barbara Streisand & Barry Manilow
This is not a knock on RR picking the song, but I just wish I could get a snapshot of Barwis face when that song came on!
Jeez. When even Josh freaking Groban of all people is piling on, you know it's bad. That's a low point in life. Ouch.
Maybe you should sit the next couple plays out, Champ...
no shit if a fruit like groban is making fun of us it's bad. i think we are turning into the joke of college football. firing RR is only going to make it worse. All the fire RR people need to be careful for what you ask for.
Fellas,





This is bad. It is like really bad. He really played that song and held hands with Frank Beckman? This is really bad. God bless you Coach Rod, but.......
This is bad..
And the Theatre of the Absurd that is Michigan football continues.
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mgoblue1919 said:
Anyone who leaves the program, I'll take Rich's stance... "I only talk about kids who play for UM".

Sorry... don't let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way out. Just like I said when Mallett, Boren, Threet, Clemons, etc left.

If they're happy with getting WORKED by every decent B10 team. If they're happy with losing to Toledo. If they're happy with being a joke in college football. If they need a teddy bear and Josh Grobin to inspire them... what can I say? You can't tell me there are no players on the team who want to win for MICHIGAN.

Sorry... don't use this as some sort of "hostage stance" to keep the coach. WIN SOME FRIGGIN GAMES THAT COUNT! That's all. No one's asking for anything more. Prove it on the field... 1095+ days to get it done. What more do you want? I was 100% fine with Rich getting the 4th year he deserved. I was in the camp that he has been treated terrible from day 1. I have spent the past 3 years defending him and his program since he got to AA. From leaving WVU they way he did. To calling TP before telling his players. To "shred-gate". To the NCAA violations. To the 3-9 season. To the loss to Toledo. To 0-3 against MSU and OSU. I was STILL defending him and believing in what he can do here.

But after last night's "plea" to keep his job, at the banquet that is to honor the seniors, and to play Josh Grobin during it.. he lost me. If Harbaugh doesn't want to come... we're in trouble. This is just getting ugly. 3 years is long enough.
novablue said:
My Take on the Bust

I don't post much but I felt compelled to comment on this subject. The following is my opinion, right or wrong, take it for what it's worth.

I have been a Rich Rodriguez supporter since his hiring. I support the university and will support RR's replacement if/when the time comes to do so. One thing that I have already grown tired of reading on this board is people calling RR a "dead man walking" and view his actions last night as a "desperate attempt to keep his job." One thing that we can all agree upon as football fans in general, regardless of our stance on whether RR is the answer for UM, is that he is highly regarded in coaching circles as, not only a great offensive mind, but also a top notch head coach. Finding a job, while albeit easier prior to being at UM, probably won't be an issue too long for RR if he's let go. I personally think that his comments last night showed just how much he wants THIS job, not any other. I think he should be praised for his passion for the University of Michigan. Just my .02, but I want RR as my coach now more than ever. I already believed in his ability, but from the accounts I've been given, I now believe he has passion and understanding of what it means to be the head coach at Michigan.
 
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muffler dragon;1826737; said:
Was the banquet set up to be an occasion for DickRod to act as he did, or was it to honor someone/some people other than him? It seems like the guy is having a hard time not being the center of attention.

It seems as if it was their year-end banquet to honor their seniors.

Desperation is a stinky cologne. apparently DickRod's wife is buying it at WalMart with her leopard-print cougar outfits....
 
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