2010 TSUN arguments & shenanigans (in-season)

[buxfan4life]

For some reason I thought he did, but he didn't. Sorry

It still doesn't take the away the fact that other top colleges want the young man.

Hart is a baller, no doubt, and will be a good pick up for UM if he goes blue (which looks like he will).

 

[billmac91]

Do you honestly believe the garbage you write?

Absoluetly.

Terrelle Pryor chose Ohio State over Michigan because Michigan didn't even start recruiting him until a month before NSD when it was announced Rich was hired. Lloyd Carr wanted Terrelle.....as a Wide Receiver...and he made that perfectly clear from the start.

Again, let's take our biases out, and let Terrelle handle this:

"Michigan is a great school and it was a tough decision," Pryor said. "I like the coaches there. I've known them since they were at West Virginia. I seriously considered them right up until the end, but Ohio State was where I felt it."
Ohio State hasn't typically run a zone-read offense, which was a concern for Pryor. However, after further research, he feels he'll be a better quarterback in the end because of it.
"Troy Smith ran some zone-read stuff early in his career, and then he developed into a pocket passer and did a lot of stuff out of the shotgun," Pryor said. "He became a better quarterback - not just an athlete - by the time he was done. I feel I can do the same. Both schools said they would utilize my athletic ability in the offense, but I think I can be more well-rounded at Ohio State."

Truth of the matter is Ohio State was solidly entrenched as the #1 choice for Pryor when Michigan actually, you know, offered him a shot at QB. It was a complete uphill battle for Michigan to try and come in there and basically get him to flip within a couple of weeks.

Accept for that little nugget about Rodriguez recruitng him since he was a freshman in High School. Terrelle knew D-Rod well and was drawn by Rodriguez being at a big-time University. The problem for Rodriguez was, he doesn't develop NFL QB's. While JT's track record was limited, he at least transformed Troy Smith into a Heisman winner and pocket QB.

And Terrelle Pryor is not an NFL QB, he'll never be. Doesn't matter what scheme he's in. Period.

Maybe, maybe not. He still has a year and half to progress. We'll see.

Lol. While it is a different offense, it's principals are the same and it's very similar. Meyer is good friends with Rich and the foundation/blue-print of that offense came from Rich.

I don't see any similarities accept for the fact that they're both spreads. Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, and even a guy like Omar Jacobs are all completely different than a QB like Denard and even Forcier. The offenses they ran were significantly different as well. Urban has some pro-style influences while Rodriguez is straight college spread utilizing athletes against inferior opponents. That's the undderlying problem...Urban has always been able to line it up when he has to...Rodriguez just recruits a million athletes and slot-dots hoping to find a diamond int he rough to play his QB position. He potentially found a good one in Denard, although Denard has not been tested at all this year.

Oh, you mean...like Devin Gardner. How about Denard Robinson?

Neither of these guys were in the same stratosphere as TP out of high school.

Does true frosh RB 6-0, 228-pound Stephen Hopkins count?

No, I'm waiting for a top 50 national player that wants to come in and be Michigan's RB. I won't hold my breath. But maybe we could lend you some out of our stable...

Ha! That's funny, because your current QB is the definition of the word project QB, and I am pretty sure that your hot-shot QB recruit Braxton Miller completed about 43% of his passes last year as a JR with oh, I don't know, 7-million turn-overs.

Braxton has all the tools in the world and about as polished as you will see. Unfortunately, High School football in Ohio isn't a joke, so when you only have 2 resectable offensive players it makes it hard to be productive. You're really smart..maybe you can tell me why Braxton put up over 200 yards of rushing in one half against Moeller high school on national TV and hasn't had a single rushing attempt since? Maybe it's his sore ankle..I dunno. My guess is teams are having an easier time dealing with him since he's decided to only throw fromt he pocket to prevent further injury. Maybe you have a better theory?

Oh, you mean like 6-2, 194 pound Darryl Stonum (#2 leading statistical WR)? 6'1, 226 pound JR Hemingway (#3 leading statistical WR) ? 6'1, 183 pound Je'Ron Stokes? 6'2, 210 pound Ricardo Miller? 6'4, 200 pound Jeremy Jackson? 6'0, 178 pound Roy Roundtree (#1 leading statistical WR)? How about Rich's lone WR recruit for the 2011 class, 6'3, 180 pound Shawn Conway? But yeah, you're right, Michigan's WR's are all 5'9 midgets.

Terrance Robinson
Courtney Avery
Drew Dileo
Vincent Smith
Jeremy Gallon
Tate Forcier
Denard Robinson
Martavious Odoms

It's a long list of undersized players, especially for similar positions. Especially when the defense has huge gaping holes. And I know Forcier and Robinson don't really belong on that list, but it goes to the stock-piling mentality. If Denard had continued to struggle at QB like he did last year, he'd have become a slot or RB.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Dancing banana, recruiting smack version.

 

[3074326]

Neither of these guys were in the same stratosphere as TP out of high school.

Out of all the great stuff you just wrote, you know he's just going to key in on this and try to condescend to you about it.

 

[NFBuck]

Does true frosh RB 6-0, 228-pound Stephen Hopkins count?

This guy?

No.

 

[Gatorubet]

Now why would I do that when I can sit back, watch, and laugh like hell over the Pryor slurp-fest that goes on over here?

At least Denard is, you know, actually good. Pryor must be as frustrating to watch for you as the Michigan defense is for me, because both of them are pathetic.

 

[3074326]

I really want this guy McNeil'd. :(

 

[Tlangs]

I really want this guy McNeil'd. :(

:cheers:

 

[wadc45]

http://twitter.com/

Dee Hart announcing on Friday and hearing very, very good things for Michigan here. Talk about the perfect back for Rich Rod's system.

 

[Esoteria]

I am now dumber for having read the arguments in this thread .... man you guys can cause someone to lose 15 IQ points easily for how retarded these responses can be. lol.

 

[Mike80]

Right. So I don't really get why your boys on this board bash Rich for not landing Pryor. They got in on him in a short window, he made the one visit and he just wasn't feeling Mich, he had been to OSU a bunch of times, made friendships with OSU commits and his Dad was trying to get him to go to Penn State, so in-spite of all this Rich sucks at recruiting because he did not land Terrelle Pryor.

Rich is great at recruiting 5'7 midget running backs.

 

[Mike80]

Now why would I do that when I can sit back, watch, and laugh like hell over the Pryor slurp-fest that goes on over here?

At least Denard is, you know, actually good. Pryor must be as frustrating to watch for you as the Michigan defense is for me, because both of them are pathetic.

So how many Rose bowl MVPs has Denard won you fucktwit?

 

[Saw31]

Now why would I do that when I can sit back, watch, and laugh like hell over the Pryor slurp-fest that goes on over here?

At least Denard is, you know, actually good. Pryor must be as frustrating to watch for you as the Michigan defense is for me, because both of them are pathetic.

I'm not going to argue about recruiting, rosters, etc. Just win a meaningful game or shut the fuck up...

 

[Jaxbuck]

I am now dumber for having read the arguments in this thread .... man you guys can cause someone to lose 15 IQ points easily for how retarded these responses can be. lol.

No thread is worthless that contains a picture of Linda Carter in her Wonder Woman outfit.

 

[NFBuck]

GET_OFF_MY_LAWN!!!

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