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2010 tOSU Defensive Backs, or Secondary, Discussion

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Young or not, when your number is called, you better step up. The Bucks are playing for all of the marbles this year, and sound, three-level defense is the key. One blown coverage, or missed tackle, in a tight game can cost you the championship. That's how important secondary play is. With the development of the offense (did I just type that?), teams will be playing from behind against the Bucks, so the ball is going to be in the air more than usual. It will be interesting to see what mode Heacock decides on (attacking vs. soft zone) as conference play develops. But, there's no way around it. This group will be challenged as the season progresses.
 
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808 Buck;1780628; said:
Young or not, when your number is called, you better step up. The Bucks are playing for all of the marbles this year, and sound, three-level defense is the key. One blown coverage, or missed tackle, in a tight game can cost you the championship. That's how important secondary play is. With the development of the offense (did I just type that?), teams will be playing from behind against the Bucks, so the ball is going to be in the air more than usual. It will be interesting to see what mode Heacock decides on (attacking vs. soft zone) as conference play develops. But, there's no way around it. This group will be challenged as the season progresses.
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IMO this was a good thing. I'm glad there was a wakeup call before the B10 season opener on defense. Its awesome to see soooooooo many defenders play early in the season. Maybe a humbling experience like giving up 3 touches to EMU will show the younger guys they need alot of work and have the older guys realize its time to start leading.

Were we exposed...not really. We were getting pressure with our front 4 and got burned because a younster or two were out of position. I'm sure the vanilla just got put back into the cabinet.

We have emptied the benches in 3 games so far. Guys like Hankins are starting to get noticeably better. Corey Brown made mistakes but the effort is there...Same with Johnson...Johnson never played safety till he got to OSU.

I think alot of Buckeye fans expect a whole hell of alot from guys that are very green. IMO they played their asses off its just they need experience. I can live with mistakes as long as I see 110 % effort...I didn't see any dogging.

These guys will get better and better. There will be other games when the back-ups get in. Relax the sky is not falling.
 
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IMHO...As a former QB that guy threw some extremely difficult passes that were PERFECT. Our DB's were there but the accuracy of the pass was the difference. I was shocked by the pinpoint balls this kid threw.

The thing I didn't like was some blown assignments and the DB's not swarming to the WR after he caught the ball. Overall it was to be expected from our young guys. It looked as though they were thinking more than just playing. As far as the overall coverage we did well just their QB threw some fantastic balls.

I'm really not worried with it and think the experience for the young players should help in the long run.




HB
 
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Backfield changes

The depth chart shows Orhian Johnson as the starter at strong safety, with Aaron Gant as the backup, and Jermale Hines as the starter at free safety, with Jamie Wood the backup. But Haynes said when Hines swings over to play nickel back Saturday, Gant will take his spot at free safety.

C.J. Barnett started at strong safety the first two games before a knee injury knocked him out for the season. Tyler Moeller played five games at nickel back before a torn pectoral muscle ended his season. Bryant took Moeller's spot, but then he suffered a foot infection that sent him to the hospital this week.
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...h-keeps-head-up-after-tough-game.html?sid=101
 
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Beat-up secondary still has it covered
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
By Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

He has played free safety, he has played nickel back, and increasingly this season, Jermale Hines has played drill sergeant.

Week after week, with safeties dropping like flies, the Ohio State senior has been handed the task of whipping the new guys into shape. Like any good red-faced instructor, he has high expectations and low tolerance.

"Jermale is the kind of guy that whether you want his help or not, he's giving it, you know what I mean?" coach Jim Tressel said. "Because he wants a good team, and he doesn't care how young you are, he expects you to be in the right place."

Cornerback Chimdi Chekwa said, "Jermale is the kind of guy who's going to be outspoken."

If Hollywood made a movie about the Buckeyes' secondary this year, it could be called The Replacements. If it were an HBO miniseries, it could be Dwindling Band of Brothers.

In the past seven weeks, four safeties have been lost to season-ending injuries: C.J. Barnett (knee, week two), Tyler Moeller (chest, week five), Christian Bryant (foot, week seven) and the latest, Corey Brown, who suffered a major knee injury last week.

Tressel said yesterday that Bryant was expected to be out of the hospital soon after having surgery last week on his infected foot, but it would be probably six weeks until he was cleared to play. That means a bowl-game return.

Brown will be out through next spring, Tressel said.

And yet, OSU's pass defense has maintained its standing as one of the best in the nation. The Buckeyes are first in the Big Ten and fifth nationally, giving up just 148.8 yards per game.

OSU is tied for second nationally with 14 interceptions, and has given up just four passing touchdowns - remarkable, considering most of OSU's opponents have been playing from behind.

Part of the reason is the talent and experience of the remaining unscathed starters. For all the injuries, three seniors have started every game - Hines, Chekwa and cornerback Devon Torrence.
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...p-secondary-still-has-it-covered.html?sid=101
 
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52 to 10 looks good on the face of it, but those 30 yard completions will catch up to us if not corrected. Thank goodness for the 3 amigos(Torrence,Chekwa,Hines) continued durability. OJ needs some more coaching to tighten things up.
 
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Our safeties to me, play with a bit of hesitation. Not necessarily out of place, but reacting after thinking too much instead of being instinctual and just attacking. Which is what I loved from Coleman, and to a lesser degree Barnett early on.

However I'm sure this will be addressed. A fine coaching staff like this will notice the little things and I expect this secondary to get a little better week by week.

The positive side to all these injuries are we have our young players getting in some solid minutes. This by all accounts, should be a fantastic group next year.
 
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Except he wasn't that way as a first year starter. He didn't stand out in '07. The way that gets "addressed" is with experience.
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That's true, but he (Coleman) wasn't quite the liability that I've seen from our secondary from time to time. Mainly our corner's. But solid to great play from our safeties and Dline last year really masked our deficiencies at CB.
 
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Corners look sharp for Buckeyes
Defensive backs respond to McGloin's challenge
Sunday, November 14, 2010
By Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Maybe Penn State quarterback Matt McGloin will think twice before he crosses the corners at Ohio State again.

Earlier in the week, he said the Nittany Lions would be able to move the ball against the Buckeyes defense, with McGloin coming off a four-touchdown day against Northwestern. But the Buckeyes took note - especially cornerbacks Devon Torrence, Chimdi Chekwa and Travis Howard.

"We had to. That's all the talking was about this week, how the quarterback was saying he was going to come at the defensive backs," Howard said.

In what has to go down as one of the great bait-and-switch moves in OSU defense history, the Buckeyes lured McGloin by letting him drive the Nittany Lions to two first-half touchdown passes and almost to another score before springing the trap.

Sure, that was the plan.

"We didn't do it as early as I expected, but we got it going in the second half," Chekwa said.
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten.../corners-look-sharp-for-buckeyes.html?sid=101
 
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Penn State: 4th and 1 at OSU 20 with 1:41 left in the 1st half

4th and 1 at OSU 20

Silas Redd rush for no gain to the Ohio State 20.

That defensive stop was huge and might of saved the game. Penn State was moving the ball (13 plays 60 yards, 05:44 minutes) and being down 14-3 is a lot more manageble than 21-3.

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Regular Season Review: Defensive Backs

from TheBuckeyeBattleCry.com

No position went through more turmoil in 2010 than the defensive backs. They endured injuries- lots and lots of injuries, positions changes, schematic changes, bad stretches in games, criticism from fans, and everything in between.

Through it all, however, the secondary continued to play remarkably well. In fact, some fans might be surprised at just how successful they have been.

Led by the senior trio of Jermale Hines, Chimdi Chekwa, and Devon Torrence, Ohio State was able to field the fourth best pass defense in the country which only gave up 156.3 yards per game through the air. On top of that, the Buckeyes recorded 18 interceptions, tied for the 10th most in the country.

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Secondary at its best when it gets physical
Friday, December 10, 2010
By Ken Gordon
The Columbus Dispatch

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HIT MAN: Ohio State safety Jermale Hines, colliding with Iowa's Marvin McNutt that resulted in a pass interference penalty, isn't shy when it comes to making a tackle. (Neal C. Lauron | Dispatch)

One week after his hard hits caused some controversy at Iowa, Ohio State safety Jermale Hines proved he had learned a lesson:

Keep hitting.

Just six minutes into the Michigan game Nov.27, on the Wolverines' first possession, the visitors faced a fourth-and-8 on OSU's 28-yard line.

Quarterback Denard Robinson lofted a pass toward tight end Kevin Koger. Linebacker Brian Rolle had coverage underneath, and both leaped for the ball, which bounced off Koger's hands and floated in the air, possibly still catchable.

Any chance of that, though, was erased when Hines came up and leveled Koger.

It was a statement of sorts for Hines, who was penalized for a personal foul for a hit on an intended receiver at Iowa, and later pasted Hawkeyes running back Adam Robinson on an attempted screen pass, causing a concussion with a blow that could have been flagged, as well.

"I mentioned to him, 'You know, you might get fined for that next year (in the NFL),'" cornerback Chimdi Chekwa said. "But Jermale always wants to attack. He had opportunities (to hit) and he took his opportunities. That's Jermale Hines, and he does what he always does."

But the aggressiveness was not limited to Hines. In the season's stretch run, the entire Ohio State secondary proved that when challenged, it would respond with physical play.

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http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/buckeyextra/stories/gameday/2010/week15/osu-football.html
 
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