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Buckeye86
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BuckeyeMac;1760075; said:
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is it a case of not playing with enough intensity, or not having a chance to make on impression because the defense was barely on the field
you can't slam Ohio State's offense in the Wisconsin game last year because of three non-offense touchdowns, you can't slam the Ohio State defense in this game because Marshall's offense was on the field so little, on when they were on the field they rarely threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field
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Diego-Bucks
Lost in Canada
Agreed. There is so little to judge. This game was great for our offense, but is not indicative of the defense. They didn't sustain any real threat during the game, Marshall had too many penalties and turnovers. Yes, Marshall had some nice plays, but not much more beyond that. The defense did what they had to do; of course if Cam could have gotten 5 sacks to start of the season, I would have liked that too. :)
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
Diego-Bucks;1760215; said:
If at the end of the season you said those words... it'd be a pretty good year, eh?
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OhioState001
Tressel Loyalist
Surprised that Heyward did not get a tackle. He whiffed on a sack though.
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KillerNut
Banned
I will say this again since my original post mysteriously disappeared.
I believe this is the best defense I have seen at Ohio State. They play fast, they hit hard, they tackle, they play aggressive, causing turnovers.
I can remember the 2002 defense winning some games by themselves, Penn State 2002 especially, but they, IMHO never looked this dominating this fast, this... good.
Now I tend to curb my enthusiasm a bit because we have seen them against Marshall, Miami (Fl) (who I don't know how good they really are), and Ohio U, but my eyes tell me that this is going to be a very good defense. They may give up a few more big plays than defenses in the past, but they look like they will cause more big defensive plays (like turnovers) than our defenses did in the past.
Very impressed. I have been know as someone who sees things from a glass half empty slant in the past, so I hope that my analysis is fair.
Someone responded about the secondary, but the truth is the secondary, although banged up with injury, isn't going to have to cover very long if we keep getting pressure on the QB like we have been.
How many interceptions have we gotten this year? Chekwa seems like he has already intimidated all of the offensive coordinators into going after Torrence, (I wish them good luck with that, because I doubt it will work), and this secondary supports well on screens, and running plays.
I am very impressed! Go Bucks!
I believe this is the best defense I have seen at Ohio State. They play fast, they hit hard, they tackle, they play aggressive, causing turnovers.
I can remember the 2002 defense winning some games by themselves, Penn State 2002 especially, but they, IMHO never looked this dominating this fast, this... good.
Now I tend to curb my enthusiasm a bit because we have seen them against Marshall, Miami (Fl) (who I don't know how good they really are), and Ohio U, but my eyes tell me that this is going to be a very good defense. They may give up a few more big plays than defenses in the past, but they look like they will cause more big defensive plays (like turnovers) than our defenses did in the past.
Very impressed. I have been know as someone who sees things from a glass half empty slant in the past, so I hope that my analysis is fair.
Someone responded about the secondary, but the truth is the secondary, although banged up with injury, isn't going to have to cover very long if we keep getting pressure on the QB like we have been.
How many interceptions have we gotten this year? Chekwa seems like he has already intimidated all of the offensive coordinators into going after Torrence, (I wish them good luck with that, because I doubt it will work), and this secondary supports well on screens, and running plays.
I am very impressed! Go Bucks!
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bucknut502
Hall of Fame
So for some reason I'm watching this show called "The Experts", and they ask the question "who is the nations best defense?" 5 different teams were mentioned and guess who was not mentioned? You got it, the BUCKEYES!!! They said Alabama, and justifiably so, Texas, Florida, LSU, and Nebraska...Do these "Experts" know anything? Or are they just not gonna give tOSU any credit at all. No way there are 5 better defenses than the Silver Bullets....
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bucknut502
Hall of Fame
Ya know, I was guilty before the season started of saying that our secondary would give up some big plays and potentially cost us a game. Boy was I wrong. Jermale Hines has become an All-Conference player. Chim and Devon are playing lights out (as expected) and aside from Cam, Moeller has been our best defensive player this year. Barnett was showing great potential before the injury and hopefully O.J. can step right in and not miss a beat. I have absolutely no worries about our D against any offense in the country. This is the first year I have been able to say that since 2002. We have speed, we have size, we have hard hitters, and we have a group of guys with a nose for the ball. I catch myself wanting the offense to hurry and score, not for the points, but so I can watch the defense. They are very fun to watch....
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krazeyk;1776765; said:
Idk, you're sounding a tad "homerish". UF is playing stellar on D this year. But the O has been playing terrible. I agree that Texas, Nebraska and LSU aren't playing as good, but Florida's secondary alone is far better than ours. We are blessed to have a complete team, but their D should definitely be thrown in that arguement of the top 2-3 in the nation.
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BuckeyefromPitt
Senior
Defense was extremely underwhelming last night. While there were some bright spots, it seems that there just wasn't enough size or depth to counter a team a physical as Wisconsin. I think that this defense is really, really, good at running around, hitting people, and shutting down a spread offense, but they just weren't physical enough in the box to stop a power offense like Wisconsin.
I raised the same problem in the special teams thread, but I honestly think we lack depth at too many key positions. As a result, the D struggles to adjust to offenses other than those that use the pass as their primary means of attack. The big, physical linebackers and D-lineman that could combat an overly physical O-line just aren't on the roster.
While fast guys with "SEC" speed are good to have, you still have to be able to slug it out when the situation calls for it. We need to at least have the depth to rotate bigger, stronger, and more physical guys into the game. Hankins is the only guy that fits that description IMO and he just wasn't enough last night.
I raised the same problem in the special teams thread, but I honestly think we lack depth at too many key positions. As a result, the D struggles to adjust to offenses other than those that use the pass as their primary means of attack. The big, physical linebackers and D-lineman that could combat an overly physical O-line just aren't on the roster.
While fast guys with "SEC" speed are good to have, you still have to be able to slug it out when the situation calls for it. We need to at least have the depth to rotate bigger, stronger, and more physical guys into the game. Hankins is the only guy that fits that description IMO and he just wasn't enough last night.
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