2010 SEC Discussion and vBet

[matcar]

You want to know why? Two words:
SEC Chant.

SEC Chant is the worst. The Worst. I'll never forget the first time I really heard it..back in 2002 when Arky played LSU in Little Rock. Wild game and I enjoyed being there that day, but Arky won and all the fans around me started chanting S.E.C. S.E.C. I guess because they had just secured the West division or something, but I couldn't help thinking about what a bunch of morons they were chanting S.E.C, since the team they just beat was also in the SEC. Why would you chant something that your opponent is also affiliated with? Only a moron does that.

 

[brodybuck21]

If you're going to do an off-season college football column covering the weekly goings-on around the sport, then you're undoubtedly going to be dealing with the SEC quite a bit. It would be like doing a weekly column about sitcoms featuring old ladies living in Miami and not mentioning The Golden Girls.
So buckle in and let's talk some SEC media days!
By now you've undoubtedly heard about the handful of SEC schools being investigated by the NCAA regarding improper benefits coming from agents and all of the denials floating around from everybody.
As you would expect, this has been the main topic of discussion from the SEC media days, and it's left us with some pretty interesting quotes.
Nick Saban talked quite a bit about the agents and his program, and before he got to his now famous pimp analogy, he said this about former offensive tackle Andre Smith:
?We had an issue a couple years ago with Smitty who got suspended for the Sugar Bowl. You know, we probably could have prosecuted the guy. But in prosecuting the guy that did wrong, we would have put our institution in jeopardy - possibly - from an NCAA standpoint. We didn't do it. But then the same guy is standing in line trying to give our players money this past year and nothing gets done about it. It's not a good situation.?
I'm a bit confused here. Back in late 2008, after suspending Smith for the Tide's bowl game, Saban labeled the situation as an ?institutional matter? and ?not an NCAA matter?. Now he's saying that had they chosen to prosecute the agent involved, things could have been exposed that could have put Alabama?a school that is currently on probation for another two years??in jeopardy?? But I thought it wasn't ?an NCAA matter?? Does this mean the university covered things up, or just decided not to report them? Either way, it seems a bit hinky.
Okay, now we're going to get to the ?pimp part?, but when you read what Saban says, I want you to imagine he's talking about oversigning and when he says ?agents?, replace that with ?coaches?.
?It's something that is affecting college football in a negative way. It's affecting college football fans. It's affecting a lot of people.?
?I mean, the consequences are negative for them [the players] and their future. They'll probably not get drafted as high as they could have got drafted if they played and participated.?
?I don't think it's anything but greed that is creating it right now on behalf of the agents. Agents that do this, I hate to say this, but how are they any better than a pimp? I have no respect for people who do that to young people, none. I mean, none. How would you feel if they did it to your child??
Pretty interesting, eh?
I absolutely love the irony of Nick Saban calling agents pimps for the way they treat the players. This is the same guy who is famous for oversigning recruits every single year because he knows that by the time the next fall camp starts, he'll have kicked his lowest earners to the curb to make room for better looking prospects.
Hearing Saban complain about the runners for these agents who try to entice these players reminds me of coaches who hire high school coaches of prospective recruits to help out at their camps. You know, kind of like Nick Saban does. For instance, why on earth would Saban need a high school coach from Springfield, Ohio to help out at his camp. Is there some specific technique that only he knows how to coach? Wouldn't it be cheaper just to have somebody local do it? Don't they have enough coaches in the south to help out? And was it just a coincidence that Saban is targeting a highly-recruited linebacker from that same Springfield school?
I'm not saying these high school coaches are runners (not all of them, at least), but I highly doubt they go back with negative things to say when prompted by their players.
Basically, Saban calling agents pimps is more ironic than Houston Nutt making fun of somebody else's accent.

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hahahahaha Gerd from the ozone is hilarious

 

[Gatorubet]

SEC Chant is the worst. The Worst. I'll never forget the first time I really heard it..back in 2002 when Arky played LSU in Little Rock. Wild game and I enjoyed being there that day, but Arky won and all the fans around me started chanting S.E.C. S.E.C. I guess because they had just secured the West division or something, but I couldn't help thinking about what a bunch of morons they were chanting S.E.C, since the team they just beat was also in the SEC. Why would you chant something that your opponent is also affiliated with? Only a moron does that.

Shockingly, there can sometimes be more than one reason for something.

 

[matcar]

Shockingly, there can sometimes be more than one reason for something.

Ummm, I still don't get it. You don't see folks from the Pac10, B12, B10, ACC chanting their conference name when they beat fellow conference foes and/or win their conference title. Only morons do it.

Heck, tOSU has won a B10 title or two recently and I haven't heard anyone chanting. It's just plain stooopid.

 

[Gatorubet]

Ummm, I still don't get it. You don't see folks from the Pac10, B12, B10, ACC chanting their conference name when they beat fellow conference foes and/or win their conference title. Only morons do it.

Heck, tOSU has won a B10 title or two recently and I haven't heard anyone chanting. It's just plain stooopid.

They were rubbing it in the Corn Dogs faces that the piggies won the SEC West. LSU had won it the year before, and in THAT case of "S-E-C it" it was all about reminding LSU what program was playing for the SECCG. A shorthand version of "we just beat the hell out of you", as it were.

We are far prouder to be in the SEC than y'all are proud to be in the Big 10, or anyone in the ACC or PAC-10. Wait! Utah might be as proud to be in the PAC-10 right now. That is our opinion based upon the conference support we have at bowl time where we root for each other's teams (Nutria and Auburn excepted), and it is also based upon the fact that everywhere we go nobody else seems as loyal to their conference as we are to ours. I hope that an SEC team wins every single sport every single year, and in any televised event I root for the SEC team against anyone else.

We like to remind people that we are in the premier conference in the nation. That we have accomplished things like four consecutive BCSNC from three different teams - a conference achievement that we know our opponents from other conferences will likely never experience no matter how long they will be alive.

But since you had to go and call our display of conference pride stoopid for the umpteenth time, you had to sit through this discussion again.

It's sort of like the Lion King Circle of Life.

 

[BayBuck]

our display of conference pride stoopid

+1

 

[matcar]

They were rubbing it in the Corn Dogs faces that the piggies won the SEC West. LSU had won it the year before, and in THAT case of "S-E-C it" it was all about reminding LSU what program was playing for the SECCG. A shorthand version of "we just beat the hell out of you", as it were.

We are far prouder to be in the SEC than y'all are proud to be in the Big 10, or anyone in the ACC or PAC-10. Wait! Utah might be as proud to be in the PAC-10 right now. That is our opinion based upon the conference support we have at bowl time where we root for each other's teams (Nutria and Auburn excepted), and it is also based upon the fact that everywhere we go nobody else seems as loyal to their conference as we are to ours. I hope that an SEC team wins every single sport every single year, and in any televised event I root for the SEC team against anyone else.

We like to remind people that we are in the premier conference in the nation. That we have accomplished things like four consecutive BCSNC from three different teams - a conference achievement that we know our opponents from other conferences will likely never experience no matter how long they will be alive.

But since you had to go and call our display of conference pride stoopid for the umpteenth time, you had to sit through this discussion again.

It's sort of like the Lion King Circle of Life.

I'm not calling your "display of conference pride stoopid for the umpteenth time", I'm definitively stating that it IS stooooopid. It's a scientific fact.

SEC Chant is for morons. Conference pride can live quite well without chanting it..nay even taunting it to fellow members. Now, I could understand why some of your low-brow SEC bretheren might not get that, but I hold you to a higher standard. If YOU don't get it, then you are lost. Again, scientific fact.

 

[Nutriaitch]

LSU hated Ole Miss, Auburn, Florida and Bama, while barely tolerating Tennessee.

some things never change.

SEC Chant is the worst. The Worst. I'll never forget the first time I really heard it..back in 2002 when Arky played LSU in Little Rock. Wild game and I enjoyed being there that day, but Arky won and all the fans around me started chanting S.E.C. S.E.C. I guess because they had just secured the West division or something, but I couldn't help thinking about what a bunch of morons they were chanting S.E.C, since the team they just beat was also in the SEC. Why would you chant something that your opponent is also affiliated with? Only a moron does that.

did you HAVE to bring up that game?

one of several late game "i forgot we were still playing" moments in the career of St. Nick.

these types of moments have been erased from the memory banks of those who remember Lil Nicky's tenure as mistake free and flawless.

 

[BigWoof31]

Ummm, I still don't get it. You don't see folks from the Pac10, B12, B10, ACC chanting their conference name when they beat fellow conference foes and/or win their conference title. Only morons do it.

Heck, tOSU has won a B10 title or two recently and I haven't heard anyone chanting. It's just plain stooopid.

Matcar - you can be a total asshole sometimes!

Arkansas had just defeated LSU on the field of play. It was a hard game and clearly the LSU players and coaches were upset after the loss. What better way to cheer them up then remind that the Arkansas fans were still proud of their effort and admired the spirit they put into the game? The SEC cheer is used to boost morale and who amongst us should say that it's wrong to pick someone up after they're feeling down or after the breaks didn't go their way?

Were they supposed to "booo" LSU after that effort? That's hate speech!

Are you, the Ohio State program and the Big 10 against friendship and sportsmanship? Unbelievable!
No wonder Texas said no.

 

[Gatorubet]

I'm not calling your "display of conference pride stoopid for the umpteenth time", I'm definitively stating that it IS stooooopid. It's a scientific fact.

SEC Chant is for morons. Conference pride can live quite well without chanting it..nay even taunting it to fellow members. Now, I could understand why some of your low-brow SEC bretheren might not get that, but I hold you to a higher standard. If YOU don't get it, then you are lost. Again, scientific fact.

Drauci Matcar sui vorat pipinnam,
collatus cui gallus est Lohan.

 

[AuburnBuckeye]

To be honest, this is the worst it has been in decades, lack of hate wise. When things were rocking in the 90s, Spurrier was in feuds with whatever Mutt coach was coaching them, Fulmer and Bama were feuding, Auburn and Bama always, Fulmer & Spurrier had no love lost, and LSU hated Ole Miss, Auburn, Florida and Bama, while barely tolerating Tennessee.

It is like a sickening love fest now. Too many people respect each other these days.

I hate you

 

[BigJim]

I never realized that the hatred for the SEC chant carried over to when it was used to rub in a win over another SEC member. I thought it only bugged people when it was used in the "our conference is better than yours!" mindset.

 

[Buckeneye]

We are far prouder to be in the SEC than y'all are proud to be in the Big 10, or anyone in the ACC or PAC-10.


But since you had to go and call our display of conference pride stoopid for the umpteenth time, you had to sit through this discussion again.

It's not pride, its arrogance....

Pride is a sin. I figured majority of the SEC resides in the "Bible belt" - surprised to see most of their fans didnt realize that.

Humility however, is not...

 

[matcar]

Matcar - you can be a total asshole sometimes!

Arkansas had just defeated LSU on the field of play. It was a hard game and clearly the LSU players and coaches were upset after the loss. What better way to cheer them up then remind that the Arkansas fans were still proud of their effort and admired the spirit they put into the game? The SEC cheer is used to boost morale and who amongst us should say that it's wrong to pick someone up after they're feeling down or after the breaks didn't go their way?

Were they supposed to "booo" LSU after that effort? That's hate speech!

Are you, the Ohio State program and the Big 10 against friendship and sportsmanship? Unbelievable!
No wonder Texas said no.

Good point, that's mighty wholesome of those Arky fans to choose to cheer up their neighbor to the south by cheering them with the SEC Chant. And here I thought they were jeering....silly me.

SEC Chant is The Worst. There's no defending it, but I AM sorry that the post reminded Nutria of a bitter disappointment. As a Buckeye fan, I can relate to bitter disappointment.

 

[matcar]

I never realized that the hatred for the SEC chant carried over to when it was used to rub in a win over another SEC member. I thought it only bugged people when it was used in the "our conference is better than yours!" mindset.

Can you imagine beating TSUN and then chanting Big Ten....what a joke. Buffoons.