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2010 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

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Anderson over Hicks!?!? Ware moving all the way up to #19 and a 5* cause he was the leading rusher of the game!?!? I've never followed it before but is this a trend with Rivals to base their entire 100 on how someone did in one game?
 
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coryhulbert;1642751; said:
Anderson over Hicks!?!? Ware moving all the way up to #19 and a 5* cause he was the leading rusher of the game!?!? I've never followed it before but is this a trend with Rivals to base their entire 100 on how someone did in one game?
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It seems like they do this every year. We have benefited from this trend in the past, specifically in Mike Adams' case. He went in a 4*, and emerged a 5* after dominating everybody in the practices, and performing well in the game. Eventhough we don't have his commitment, some speculated that Christian Bryant would earn a fifth star after shutting down receivers in practice this year. I actually like to see their re-evaluations of classes/recruits 3-4 years into their college careers because you get a more accurate rating based on performance and living up to the hype, a sort of reality check on recruit rankings if you will.
 
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tonystarx;1642865; said:
It seems like they do this every year. We have benefited from this trend in the past, specifically in Mike Adams' case. He went in a 4*, and emerged a 5* after dominating everybody in the practices, and performing well in the game.
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I guess I don't understand how that benefits OSU. What does it matter what Rivals thinks of him? It really doesn't make him a better player.
 
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Rivals 250 01/14/2010 101-250

Of interest:

101. Quinton Spain (WVU)
110. Dietrich Riley
114. Christian Bryant
118. Corey Brown
127. Cody Riggs (Florida)
129. C.J. Fiedorowicz (Iowa)
132. Devin Gardner (Michigan)
141. Tai-ler Jones (ND)
172. Skyler Shofner (MSU)
178. Andrew Donnal (Iowa)
193. Dominique Brown
198. Brandon Linder (Miami)
232. James Louis
233. Mark Myers (Pitt)
235. Andrew Hendrix (ND)
236. Taylor Graham

Rivals Top Ohioans based on the 250:

1. Latwan Anderson
2. Jordan Hicks
3. Spencer Ware
4. Braylon Heard
5. Andrew Norwell
6. Matt James
7. Christian Byrant
8. Skyler Shofner
9. Andrew Donnal
10. Dominique Brown
11. Mark Myers
12. Andrew Hendrix
 
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coryhulbert;1642751; said:
Anderson over Hicks!?!? Ware moving all the way up to #19 and a 5* cause he was the leading rusher of the game!?!? I've never followed it before but is this a trend with Rivals to base their entire 100 on how someone did in one game?
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It's not based on one game, it's what he showed all week in practices. Ware is a very highly thought of RB, a big physical runner with good strength who can still maintain extremely quick feet. His lower body control with his strength is a nasty combination, and he was the most consistent RB all week in San Antonio. Perfect fit for LSU's system, and it's recognition well deserved in Ware's case.

You have to remember, these new rankings are influenced by the whole week....when you finally get to see the kids play against top tier talent. There is no hiding in these practices, it's not like playing weak HS competition. It can be a very revealing week and you see which kids can really shine (Powell, Henderson and Floyd come to mind).

* And I like seeing them put Myers ahead of Hendrix. Real under the radar QB, although Latwan made him look silly.
 
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HotMic;1642858; said:
Rivals take on Ohio is laughable each and every year, no shock there
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just to add some context to this comment...here's how Rivals national guys rated Ohio's top 10s over the years...

2002
(no top 10 this year available..these were the Ohio kids in their national top 100)
1. Mike D'Andrea - Ohio State (undrafted)
2. Maurice Clarett - Ohio State (3rd round)
3. Justin Zwick - Ohio State (undrafted)
4. Deshawn Wynn - Florida (7th round)
5. Doug Datish - Ohio State (6th round)
6. Quinn Pitcock - Ohio State (3rd round)

2003
1. Prescott Burgess - Michigan (6th round pick)
2. Donte Whitner - Ohio State (1st round)
3. Louis Irizarry - Ohio State (undrafted)
4. Shawn Crable - Michigan (3rd round)
5. David Patterson - Ohio State (undrafted)
6. Dareus Hiley - Ohio State (undrafted)
7. Anthony Gonzalez - Ohio State (1st round)
8. Brady Quinn - Notre Dame (1st round)
9. Ray Edwards - Purdue (4th round)
10. Devin Jordan - Ohio State (undrafted)

others - Boeckman (13th), Ben Mauk (36th), Barton (46th)

2004
1. Ted Ginn - Ohio State (1st round)
2. Fred Davis - Southern Cal (2nd round)
3. Marcus Freeman - Ohio State (5th round)
4. Brandon Braxton - Oklahoma (undrafted)
5. Michael Massey - Michigan (undrafted)
6. Antonio Pittman - Ohio State (4th round)
7. Chad Hoobler - Ohio State (undrafted)
8. Ben Person - Ohio State (undrafted)
9. Miles Williams - Sparty (undrafted)
10. Shaun Lane - Ohio State (undrafted)

others - Brandon Underwood (13th, 6th round), Brian Hoyer (16th), Daryll Clark (36th).

2005
1. Alex Boone - Ohio State (undrafted)
2. Jamario O'Neal - Ohio State (undrafted)
3. Mario Manningham - Michigan (3rd round)
4. Jim Cordle - Ohio State
5. Alex Daniels - Minnesota
6. Adam Myers-White - Tennessee
7. Todd Denlinger - Ohio State
8. Rob Schoenhoft - Ohio State
9. Lawrence Wilson - Ohio State
10. Andre Amos - Ohio State

others - Brian Hartline (12th, 3rd round), Javon Ringer (13th), Brian Robiskie (22nd, 2nd round), Tyrell Sutton (32nd)

2006
1. Chris Wells - Ohio State (1st round)
2. Robert Rose - Ohio State
3. Connor Smith - Ohio State
4. Justin Boren - Michigan
5. Ray Small - Ohio State
6. Thad Gibson - Ohio State
7. Aaron Brown - Virginia Tech
8. Ross Homan - Ohio State
9. Cobrani Mixon - Michigan
10. Kurt Coleman - Ohio State

others - Ballard (12th), Browning (14th), Stazni (15th), Moeller (26th), Nate Davis (31st...Ball State QB), Derrell Johnson (34th...Iowa WR).

2007
1. Ben Martin - Tennessee
2. Brandon Saine - Ohio State
3. Eugene Clifford - Ohio State
4. Antonio Jeremiah - Sparty
5. Nate Oliver - Ohio State
6. CJ Peake - Louisville
7. Jermale Hines - Ohio State
8. Devon Torrence - Ohio State
9. Diauntae Morrow - Iowa
10. Donnie Evege - Ohio State

others - Herron (13th), Greg Jones (16th - Sparty LB B10 DPOY), Kyle Jefferson (25th, Wisconsin WR), Sanzenbacher (26th), Zach Collaros (48th)

2008
1. Mike Adams - Ohio State
2. Kyle Rudolph - Notre Dame
3. Devier Posey - Ohio State
4. Devoe Torrence - Akron
5. Brandon Beachum - Penn State
6. Michael Shaw - Michigan
7. Jake Stoneburner - Ohio State
8. Zebrie Sanders - Florida State
9. Mike Zordich - Penn State
10. Kevin Koger - Michigan

others - Nathan Williams (11th), Pead (19th)

2009
1. Justin Turner - Michigan
2. Marcus Hall - Ohio State
3. Jamie Wood - Ohio State
4. Chris Fields - Ohio State
5. CJ Barnett - Ohio State
6. DJ Hunter - Tennessee?
7. Corey Linsley - Ohio State
8. Bud Golden - Illinois
9. Jack Mewhort - Ohio State
10. Storm Klein - Ohio State

others - Fellows (11th), Simon (17th), Luke Kuechly (37th, Boston College, ACC freshman of the year), Chris Borland (not in top 60, Wisconsin starting LB)

I'm sure there's many others in the 'others' that I'm missing. not saying there's any conclusion to draw one way or the other...just that this is the data.
 
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Tha Ringer 500

Recruits of interest to Buckeye fans (all but Dominique Brown offered by Ohio State):
4 | Jordan Hicks |
5 | Sharrif Floyd | Florida
9 | Seantrel Henderson |
10 | Lamarcus Joyner | Florida St.
11 | James Hurst | N. Carolina
15 | Josh Shaw | Florida
17 | Roderick Smith | Ohio State
18 | Andrew Norwell | Ohio State
19 | Matt Elam | Florida
26 | Christian Green |
37 | Garrison Smith | Georgia
38 | Jeff Luc | Florida St.
39 | Matt James |
43 | LaTwan Anderson | West Virginia
45 | Khairi Fortt | Penn St.
60 | William Gholston | Michigan St.
71 | Tai-ler Jones | Notre Dame
77 | Jaylen Watkins | Florida
87 | Brandon Linder | Miami, FL
89 | Spencer Ware | LSU
99 | Christian Bryant |
101 | Kenny Shaw | Florida St.
104 | T.J. Clemmings | Pittsburgh
114 | Brent Benedict | Georgia
115 | Marvin Robinson | Michigan
126 | Scott McVey | Ohio State
127 | T.J. Stripling | Georgia
131 | Cullen Christian | Michigan
144 | Jamel Turner | Ohio State
146 | Mack Brown | Florida
150 | Tyrone Williams | Ohio State
158 | Arie Kouandjio |
163 | Corey Brown | Ohio State
169 | Chaz Green |
207 | Nickell Robey | Georgia
216 | Laken Tomlinson | Duke
223 | C.J. Fiedorowicz | Iowa
245 | Alex Welch | Notre Dame
247 | Zach Zwinak | Penn St.
255 | James Louis | Ohio State
270 | Taylor Graham | Ohio State
274 | Kacy Rodgers | Miami, FL
284 | Fre'Shad Hunter | N.C. State
326 | Dominique Brown |
346 | Tony Grimes |
352 | David Durham | Ohio State
353 | Nick Montana | Washington
367 | Andrew Hendrix | Notre Dame
489 | J.T. Moore | Ohio State
 
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All have Buckeye offers except for Quinton Spain and Erick Howard.

Scout 300

RK | POS | NAME
1 | OT | Seantrel Henderson
6 | DT | Sharrif Floyd
8 | OT | Andrew Norwell
18 | OLB | Jordan Hicks
19 | WR | Christian Green
24 | OT | James Hurst
28 | ILB | Jeff Luc
29 | DE | William Gholston
30 | CB | Lamarcus Joyner
32 | SAF | Matt Elam
38 | DE | T.J. Clemmings
51 | TB | Roderick Smith
56 | CB | Cullen Christian
60 | TB | Spencer Ware
65 | CB | Jaylen Watkins
66 | TE | C.J. Fiedorowicz
68 | OLB | Jamel Turner
74 | OT | Chaz Green
75 | CB | Josh Shaw
77 | DT | Garrison Smith
84 | CB | Christian Bryant
85 | TB | Mack Brown
90 | OT | Brent Benedict
91 | OT | Matt James
92 | DE | T.J. Stripling
108 | SAF | LaTwan Anderson
111 | TE | Alex Welch
114 | OLB | Khairi Fortt
117 | OC | Brandon Linder
123 | ILB | Scott McVey
138 | WR | Tai-ler Jones
145 | CB | Terrence Mitchell
151 | CB | Kacy Rodgers
153 | WR | Corey Brown
184 | WR | Kenny Shaw
194 | WR | James Louis
201 | SAF | Marvin Robinson
209 | FB | Zach Zwinak
212 | WR | Tyrone Williams
238 | CB | Nickell Robey
260 | OT | Quinton Spain
262 | DT | Fre'Shad Hunter
269 | TB | Erick Howard
281 | OT | Arie Kouandjio
286 | DE | J.T. Moore
300 | QB | Nick Montana
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RB07OSU;1645543; said:
I've noticed the Tharinger lists are usually pretty darn good. Sure they rank guys like Pryor and Henderson too low, but overall they assemble a good list.
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ThaRinger rankings are a compilation of about 16 -18 different lists (mostly from non-featured guys working for the big 3 recruiting services). They don't use the Scout 300, Rivals 250, & ESPN 150 which (IMO) tend to get bent to the will of a few (Luginbill, Farrell, Kennedy, etc.).
 
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coryhulbert;1642751; said:
Anderson over Hicks!?!? Ware moving all the way up to #19 and a 5* cause he was the leading rusher of the game!?!? I've never followed it before but is this a trend with Rivals to base their entire 100 on how someone did in one game?
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Rivals is in love with Anderson because of his combine play. Nevermind that 7 on 7s are built for defensive backs to impress.
 
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