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2009 WSOP ME Final Table

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Dryden;1582909; said:
ESPN The Mag's article on Phil Ivey was very interesting, BTW. His :E60 story will air tonight. I think a lot of people would be surprised to learn about his jet-setting, celebrity lifestyle. I know I was.

The article in the Mag followed Ivey as he flew his Gulfstream around the world, stopping in various cities to visit casinos, such as where he'd visit Montreal and take home $750K in 20 minutes playing craps, and promptly leave to fly off to Amsterdam to play craps there for half-an-hour. Repeat.

I only hope there's a followup story in ten years when he's busted and homeless, living under a bridge.
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It's BS. Similar to MTV Cribs.

"Oh a TV crew is coming? Get me some of the blingiest shit homey!"

He does lead a great lifestyle but I highly doubt that's his day to day curriculum.
 
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CCI;1583114; said:
Just watch it ESPN, why would anybody pay to watch poker.
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Watching it on ESPN would be like being satisfied with just watching OSU's sportscenter highlights for the football game. Only in this case 99% of people would be bored out of their minds watching the "full game". Thus for those of us that would enjoy it, you have to pay money.

Honestly, saying "why would anyone pay to watch poker" is pretty clueless. Either clueless in general (I'm sure there's something you would pay to watch that others wouldn't) or just clueless about what poker is really like.
 
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BigJim;1583510; said:
Honestly, saying "why would anyone pay to watch poker" is pretty clueless. Either clueless in general (I'm sure there's something you would pay to watch that others wouldn't) or just clueless about what poker is really like.
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Not as clueless as saying that having speed makes a player great.
 
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So the little 21 y/o scUMer wins 8.5 million. Maybe he can buy them a few football recruits.

For anyone interested, I couldn't find a live video feed of the final table but I did find an audio one. The main thing I was curious about was how Ivey's stats looked preflop. I thought he would be something like a 20/14 (VPIP/PFR) but he was more like a 13/8. It may have been because his stack size was pretty small though. I really wanted him to double up early and have a few people get knocked out so I could see what his true short-handed game was like in these tournies. Oh well.
 
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BigJim;1590962; said:
So the little 21 y/o scUMer wins 8.5 million. Maybe he can buy them a few football recruits.

For anyone interested, I couldn't find a live video feed of the final table but I did find an audio one. The main thing I was curious about was how Ivey's stats looked preflop. I thought he would be something like a 20/14 (VPIP/PFR) but he was more like a 13/8. It may have been because his stack size was pretty small though. I really wanted him to double up early and have a few people get knocked out so I could see what his true short-handed game was like in these tournies. Oh well.
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I love Phil but his radar was off.

Folding Jacks when he is short stacked.
Folding a flush.

He's better than that. :(

The odds held for shit for the final 9. Most of the players were knocked out with really bad beats when they were leading going into the flop.

It was weird to watch.

The winner pulled stuff out of his ass for his biggest 5 hands. Moon did the same thing a bunch of times.

Once sure. Twice? Lucky. But that many times???

You expect this stuff when their are hundreds of players left, odds are that it will happen.
But, when you get to the final 9, the odds should mathmaticly be closer to true. Not this year though.
 
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Folanator;1591013; said:
I love Phil but his radar was off.

Folding Jacks when he is short stacked.
Folding a flush.

He's better than that. :(

The odds held for [censored] for the final 9. Most of the players were knocked out with really bad beats when they were leading going into the flop.

It was weird to watch.
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Yeah, very dissapointing final table. I can't totally fault Phil for that play though. He probably put dude on a range of something like:

10% Cada had him dominated (~20% to win)
40% he had Cada dominated (~80% to win)
50% they were racing (~55% to win)

.1*.8 + .4*.2 + .5*.45 = 40% chance of losing that hand even though he's likely ahead.

If he lost that hand he's a huge long shot to win the tournament. In a cash game it's an easy call given the pot odds, but in a tournament if your goal is to win it and you think you have an edge over the other players you have to avoid these situations and extend the # of hands you get to play as much as possible. The thing is you usually see him making these calls because he has such a big stack that losing doesn't put him short stacked. That's what sucked to me regarding him never getting many chips. His "risk of ruin" was too much of a factor.
 
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