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brutus2002
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Colt McCoy said we were the best defense he had ever faced. Thats better than our 2006 defense and all the Oklahoma defenses he has faced.
NFBuck we are gonna have to agree to disagree. I do understand your position.
NFBuck we are gonna have to agree to disagree. I do understand your position.
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brutus2002
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OLB Dave Wilkerson committed to Cal
DE BJ Butler committed to Georgia
Luc and Hicks are their top 2 prospects at LB'er and are not going to Michigan. Looks like the shot gun offer method isn't panning out for ol' tricky dick.
DE BJ Butler committed to Georgia
Luc and Hicks are their top 2 prospects at LB'er and are not going to Michigan. Looks like the shot gun offer method isn't panning out for ol' tricky dick.
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brutus2002;1453697; said:
Lets not insult a guy who was a huge Woody Hayes fan by linking him to the scUM HC please. Use Dick Rod, Rich Rod, Snake Oil Salesman, ass whatever you like but "tricky dick" was Richard M Nixon.
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TheIronColonel
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh13WiJZ7MM"]Youtube clip of Tate's "highlights".[/ame]
He makes a couple nice throws, but virtually every single one of his runs is the result of terrible angles and lead footed defenders. He's a step up from Sheridan and cone, but so is a two week rotted corpse.
Also, Unverified Voracity Says "Wow," Desires Hot Dogs | mgoblog:
I believe these are the straws for which you're grasping. Enjoy your TP-supplied ass pounding this November, scUMmers.
He makes a couple nice throws, but virtually every single one of his runs is the result of terrible angles and lead footed defenders. He's a step up from Sheridan and cone, but so is a two week rotted corpse.
Also, Unverified Voracity Says "Wow," Desires Hot Dogs | mgoblog:
MGOBLOG said:
I believe these are the straws for which you're grasping. Enjoy your TP-supplied ass pounding this November, scUMmers.
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Ever since I have been reading message boards I have been reading comments from OSU fans and Michigan fans about how good their players are and how horrible the other teams players are.
I just wish there were some way these two teams could meet on the field now and then to decide this thing.
I just wish there were some way these two teams could meet on the field now and then to decide this thing.
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zincfinger
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And if OSU were returning the 2008 defense intact, I think most everyone would agree that the baseline expectation for 2009 should be a top-5 defense. Given that they're not returning the unquestionably two most important players on defense, as well as 2-3 other significant-to-very-important contributors, however, I don't think you can, in complete confidence, translate and amplify last year's results to this year's expectations. I'm personally pretty hopeful for this year's defense, but given the significant personnel replacements going on, assigning the "amazing" label at this point seems a bit premature.brutus2002;1453691; said:
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zincfinger
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NFBuck;1453003; said:
Expanding on NFBuck's and southcampus's points a bit, 1) brand name and tradition are, by far, the most important factor(s) in recruiting. The only other built-in factor that matters is quality of in-state HS football, and that's a distant second. There's a reason why Miami(Fl) outrecruits USF and OSU outrecruits Cincinnati: brand-name. UM has that built-in advantage and should be able to generally recruit with anyone. And as far as in-state HS base goes, UM historically takes a back seat only to ND in terms of being able to go strong regionally and nationally to overcome any relative local deficiency.southcampus;1453053; said:
2) As to southcampus's point, I do think UM's 2006 defense was, at minimum, very good. Don't let the end-of-the-year letdown fool you. They dominated everyone in their path prior to OSU, and that included several solid-to-good offenses.
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brutus2002
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Zincfinger
Once again I will have to agree to disagree. I know why NFBuck and yourself have your reservations. My optimism come from what I have seen from reserves last year. We may not be "better" at linebacker but we will be overall more athletic...argue all you want but Sabino, Rolle, and Bell are freaks. Moeller and Hines are playmakers...Homan and Spitler are seek and destroy types...I'll throw Rolle in this category as well. I am not worried about the linebackers at all. The only player that we have lost from last years team that is basically irreplaceable is Jenkins. From what I have been hearing Torrence and Amos are doing great. The DL is the heart of the defense and we will be awesome...
It's good that finally some of these younger guys are getting their shot. IMO the attitude of the team is better and they are closer. Chemistry is definately underated in football and this years team has it.
Once again I will have to agree to disagree. I know why NFBuck and yourself have your reservations. My optimism come from what I have seen from reserves last year. We may not be "better" at linebacker but we will be overall more athletic...argue all you want but Sabino, Rolle, and Bell are freaks. Moeller and Hines are playmakers...Homan and Spitler are seek and destroy types...I'll throw Rolle in this category as well. I am not worried about the linebackers at all. The only player that we have lost from last years team that is basically irreplaceable is Jenkins. From what I have been hearing Torrence and Amos are doing great. The DL is the heart of the defense and we will be awesome...
It's good that finally some of these younger guys are getting their shot. IMO the attitude of the team is better and they are closer. Chemistry is definately underated in football and this years team has it.
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