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ant80;1504973; said:
POINTS AND SCORING:
1869--All goals count 1 pt. each.
1883--Safety 1, touchdown 2, goal after TD 4, goal from field 5.
1884--Safety 2, TD 4, goal after TD 2.
1898--Touchdown 5, goal after TD 1.
1904--Goal from field 4.
1909--Goal from field 3.
1912--Touchdown 6.
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schwab;1504981; said:
Look at some of the rule changes pre 1919 and see what a truely different game it was.
complete list
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why is this idiot arguing would we take Tate over Guiton?
Guiton is the 3rd QB behind Pryor and Bauserman
Tater Tot has to start at Michigan
big difference there......
Guiton is the 3rd QB behind Pryor and Bauserman
Tater Tot has to start at Michigan
big difference there......
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schwab;1504998; said:
Yep, basically before the end of WWI (which is their prime claim to fame) football more closely resembled rugby. The modern era of CFB, when it started to resemble the game we all know, wasn't untill the late 1940's.
Thats why I have always had issue with pre WWII smack talk. Yes the wins counted but its pretty weak sauce to have to pull that card.
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
To be fair to this poster, you have to understand that what the typical scUM fan means isn't exactly the same as what he says. Therefore, I have translated this brilliant post and added the translation for you in bold.
I think Michigan is going to go 11-2, win the Big Ten outright, and beat Ohio State for the first time since 2003
I pray to God for a miracle that allows us to get to 6-6 and any kind of bowl game. Plus, I hear there's supposed to be a blizzard on Nov. 22nd.
Lets go through the schdule again:
Utah=Michigan is ten times more talented then the Utes, RR is a much better coach then Kyle Whittingham, RR is not going to let his team lose in his first game as head coach, and the players are going to come out hugely motivated because they don't want to lsoe a second straight season and home opener. Combine these four factors and you ahve a 3 or 4 TD blowout for Michigan.
Kyle Wittingham is the guy who ruined Notre Dame, right? RR has to be better than him, right? We will come out super motivated and super Barwissed, and therefore lose in a blowout.
Miami(OH)=they are an MAC team playing at the big house. This will be a whitewash for the Wolverines
We are out to prove beyond doubt that we are not the worst team in the MAC. Plus it's a home game.
at Notre Dame=the Fightless Irish went 3-9 last season, their head coach sucks, Michigan has outscored ND 85-21 the last two seasons, RR is going to be looking to make a statement in his first game against one of the wolverines rivals, and the players will be fired up after weis said to hell with Michigan. This will be a shutout blowout victory for the Wolverines
This is one game where our coach might not suck as much as the other coach. This should be a shutout blowout victory for the wolverines, but our offense is likely to be so inept as to make the Keystone Kops look like Navy Seals by comparison. If we turn the ball over a couple of dozen times, we should be able to overcome the rare coaching advantage we have and make this an epic loss.
Wisconsin=its RR's first experience against against a Big ten team, this is offenses first experience against a defense that is actually good, and the Badgers return 8 of 11 starters on both sides of the ball. The Badgers will eke out a close victory in this one
We have a special plan for this one. We are going to play even worse in the first half than we did against ND. This will lull the Badgers to sleep, and they will play the second half like a bunch of drunken fools. It's just crazy enough to work - but only against Bielema.
Illinois=Michigan beat Illinois 27-17 last season in Champagne when the illini had Rashard Mendenhall, and Michigan returns most of its defense. So there's no way the Wolverines will lose to illinois in the Big House when the illini no longer have mendenhall. This will be a 10 point victory again for Michigan.
This will be a 10 point win for Michigan because we get an extra 10 points for every 100 yards of offense we allow. New Big Ten rule. Sorry, Illinois.
Toledo=(see miami(oh))
WE will play the 2 worst teams in the MAC and try to go 2-0, but that's alot to ask. Dang, that MAC's a bitch!
at Penn State=I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Michigan losses this game. However, the Nittney lions never have an answer for our running game, and now that they have lost Sean lee for the season, 2008 will be no different. Our defense has put the clamps on their offense the last two years, and now they lose Rodney Kinlaw and Anthony Morelli, while we return most of our defense, so again, 2008 will be no different. Not to mention we've won 9 straight against them overall, including 4 straight at Happy Valley. we are in their heads, and we will continue to be in 2008. Michigan will gut out a clsoe victory in this game.
PSU loses Anthony Morelli, and with him goes our winning streak. They have no answer for our running game, other than to field 11 guys on defense who can tackle. I think that's hardly cricket, considering we field 11 guys who can't tackle.
Michigan State=I shouldn't even have to bother explaining why Michigan will toast the Fartans in this game
"Toasting the Fartans" is slang for "getting ass-raped by Javon Ringer for four quarters.
at Purdue=Normally i'd be worried about a trip to West Lafayette, but the Boilmakers have no defense in 2008, and by the 9th game of the season, our offense will be in gear. Not to mention joe tiller is going to be too angry at RR to actually coach a good game. Michigan will win this game by at least 10 points.
I'm normally worried about a trip to West Lafayette because, well, you're going to freakin' West Lafayette. Who wants to go there? We're going to spring a little 3-3-5 on their ass, which will prove to be the magical cure for Purdue's pathetic offense. The only chance they have is if they do something completely stupid, like starting one of their backup RBs at QB. HaHa.
at Minnesota=the Wolverines ahven't lost to the golden Gophers on the road since 1977, and Minnesota is comnig of a 1-11 season in which they were last in the nation in total defense. its a rivalry game, so this might not be a blowout, but Michigan will still win it
Idon't know how you can expect to win a game against a juggernaught like this. They actually won a game last year, so they're probably too good for us. What dumbass trophy do we play them for, anyway. Whatever it is, I hope they bring it back with them next year.
Northwestern=if this game was at ryan Field, i'd be worried, but the Wildcats never beat us at the Big House. This could be a clsoe game, but Michigan will still get the W.
This team thinks they are so smart. I'll bet none of them could pass Kineseology. But we're at home, so we'll probably lose.
Here's why we will beat Ohio State:
1. Rich Rodriguez brings an offense to Ann Arbor that Ohio State is absolutely horrible and pathetic at defending: the spread offense. Illinois, Florida, and LSU all tore the Buckeyes a new asshole by running the spread offense on them, and the Buckeyes defense crumbled like toothpicks each time. RR is the God-father of the spread offense, and he's going to find ways to pick apart the weaknesses in Ohio States overrated defense
I wish I knew what those X and O thingies are on that blackboard.
2. RR is going to be running the spread offense with a bunch of 4 and 5 star prospects, whereas at WV, he was running it with 2 and 3 star prospects. Considering how well he did at WV with that 2 and 3 star talent, imagine how well he's going to do with all the 4 and 5 star talent he has at Michigan
We get extra points for our star ratings, right? I think it's in the media guide somewhere.
3. Because of all the talent RR has to work with, and because Michigan will be running the spread offense against a team that is horrible at running the spread offense, Michigan is guaranteed at least 21 points in next years game (injuries notwithstanding). Ohio State's offense is one dimensional with beanie Wells, who dominated us last year, but despite that fact, the Buckeyes only scored 14 points. They are going to have to score alot more then 14 points to keep up with Michigans offense, and they can't do that, as their passing game with Todd Boeckman sucks, and as Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters on defense.
The word "guarantee" can mean many things. In this case, it means "no f***ing way, dude". They are going to have to field a team with a pulse to outscore us.
4. Motivation. Michigan has a chip on their shoulder after losing 4 straighht to the Buckeyes, while Ohio State is going to get complacent after dominating the rivalry for 7 seasons. It looks more and more like 2001 all over again, where the team that is dominating the rivalry assumes they'll continue to dominate, while the team that is being dominated plays their hearts out and earns a huge upset on the road. Ohio State did it in 2001, and its Michigans turn to do so in 2008
Yeah, this is just like 2001.....2001 A Space Odyssey. We will be the scientists in suspended animation, and Tressel will be HAL, mercilessly and silently killing us, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it because our coach is flying around out in space in a freakin' space pod!
5. Intimidation. Tressell is already sweating at the thought of going up against RR, as he proved by criticizing RR's recruiting schemes. Ohio State's players, coaches, and fans know in the bottom of their hearts that they can't stop RR's spread offense, or any spread offense, and they are petrified at the prospect of having to stop his offense
The vest is scared. You can tell for sure if that keep piling up the points on us after getting way ahead. You see, against everyone else, Tressel shuts it down and just wins by 14. Since he's so scared of our offense, he's likely to put something like 28 points on the board in the second half, that chicken-s**t bastard! At least we'll get the respect we deserve.
I think Michigan is going to go 11-2, win the Big Ten outright, and beat Ohio State for the first time since 2003
I pray to God for a miracle that allows us to get to 6-6 and any kind of bowl game. Plus, I hear there's supposed to be a blizzard on Nov. 22nd.
Lets go through the schdule again:
Utah=Michigan is ten times more talented then the Utes, RR is a much better coach then Kyle Whittingham, RR is not going to let his team lose in his first game as head coach, and the players are going to come out hugely motivated because they don't want to lsoe a second straight season and home opener. Combine these four factors and you ahve a 3 or 4 TD blowout for Michigan.
Kyle Wittingham is the guy who ruined Notre Dame, right? RR has to be better than him, right? We will come out super motivated and super Barwissed, and therefore lose in a blowout.
Miami(OH)=they are an MAC team playing at the big house. This will be a whitewash for the Wolverines
We are out to prove beyond doubt that we are not the worst team in the MAC. Plus it's a home game.
at Notre Dame=the Fightless Irish went 3-9 last season, their head coach sucks, Michigan has outscored ND 85-21 the last two seasons, RR is going to be looking to make a statement in his first game against one of the wolverines rivals, and the players will be fired up after weis said to hell with Michigan. This will be a shutout blowout victory for the Wolverines
This is one game where our coach might not suck as much as the other coach. This should be a shutout blowout victory for the wolverines, but our offense is likely to be so inept as to make the Keystone Kops look like Navy Seals by comparison. If we turn the ball over a couple of dozen times, we should be able to overcome the rare coaching advantage we have and make this an epic loss.
Wisconsin=its RR's first experience against against a Big ten team, this is offenses first experience against a defense that is actually good, and the Badgers return 8 of 11 starters on both sides of the ball. The Badgers will eke out a close victory in this one
We have a special plan for this one. We are going to play even worse in the first half than we did against ND. This will lull the Badgers to sleep, and they will play the second half like a bunch of drunken fools. It's just crazy enough to work - but only against Bielema.
Illinois=Michigan beat Illinois 27-17 last season in Champagne when the illini had Rashard Mendenhall, and Michigan returns most of its defense. So there's no way the Wolverines will lose to illinois in the Big House when the illini no longer have mendenhall. This will be a 10 point victory again for Michigan.
This will be a 10 point win for Michigan because we get an extra 10 points for every 100 yards of offense we allow. New Big Ten rule. Sorry, Illinois.
Toledo=(see miami(oh))
WE will play the 2 worst teams in the MAC and try to go 2-0, but that's alot to ask. Dang, that MAC's a bitch!
at Penn State=I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Michigan losses this game. However, the Nittney lions never have an answer for our running game, and now that they have lost Sean lee for the season, 2008 will be no different. Our defense has put the clamps on their offense the last two years, and now they lose Rodney Kinlaw and Anthony Morelli, while we return most of our defense, so again, 2008 will be no different. Not to mention we've won 9 straight against them overall, including 4 straight at Happy Valley. we are in their heads, and we will continue to be in 2008. Michigan will gut out a clsoe victory in this game.
PSU loses Anthony Morelli, and with him goes our winning streak. They have no answer for our running game, other than to field 11 guys on defense who can tackle. I think that's hardly cricket, considering we field 11 guys who can't tackle.
Michigan State=I shouldn't even have to bother explaining why Michigan will toast the Fartans in this game
"Toasting the Fartans" is slang for "getting ass-raped by Javon Ringer for four quarters.
at Purdue=Normally i'd be worried about a trip to West Lafayette, but the Boilmakers have no defense in 2008, and by the 9th game of the season, our offense will be in gear. Not to mention joe tiller is going to be too angry at RR to actually coach a good game. Michigan will win this game by at least 10 points.
I'm normally worried about a trip to West Lafayette because, well, you're going to freakin' West Lafayette. Who wants to go there? We're going to spring a little 3-3-5 on their ass, which will prove to be the magical cure for Purdue's pathetic offense. The only chance they have is if they do something completely stupid, like starting one of their backup RBs at QB. HaHa.
at Minnesota=the Wolverines ahven't lost to the golden Gophers on the road since 1977, and Minnesota is comnig of a 1-11 season in which they were last in the nation in total defense. its a rivalry game, so this might not be a blowout, but Michigan will still win it
Idon't know how you can expect to win a game against a juggernaught like this. They actually won a game last year, so they're probably too good for us. What dumbass trophy do we play them for, anyway. Whatever it is, I hope they bring it back with them next year.
Northwestern=if this game was at ryan Field, i'd be worried, but the Wildcats never beat us at the Big House. This could be a clsoe game, but Michigan will still get the W.
This team thinks they are so smart. I'll bet none of them could pass Kineseology. But we're at home, so we'll probably lose.
Here's why we will beat Ohio State:
1. Rich Rodriguez brings an offense to Ann Arbor that Ohio State is absolutely horrible and pathetic at defending: the spread offense. Illinois, Florida, and LSU all tore the Buckeyes a new asshole by running the spread offense on them, and the Buckeyes defense crumbled like toothpicks each time. RR is the God-father of the spread offense, and he's going to find ways to pick apart the weaknesses in Ohio States overrated defense
I wish I knew what those X and O thingies are on that blackboard.
2. RR is going to be running the spread offense with a bunch of 4 and 5 star prospects, whereas at WV, he was running it with 2 and 3 star prospects. Considering how well he did at WV with that 2 and 3 star talent, imagine how well he's going to do with all the 4 and 5 star talent he has at Michigan
We get extra points for our star ratings, right? I think it's in the media guide somewhere.
3. Because of all the talent RR has to work with, and because Michigan will be running the spread offense against a team that is horrible at running the spread offense, Michigan is guaranteed at least 21 points in next years game (injuries notwithstanding). Ohio State's offense is one dimensional with beanie Wells, who dominated us last year, but despite that fact, the Buckeyes only scored 14 points. They are going to have to score alot more then 14 points to keep up with Michigans offense, and they can't do that, as their passing game with Todd Boeckman sucks, and as Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters on defense.
The word "guarantee" can mean many things. In this case, it means "no f***ing way, dude". They are going to have to field a team with a pulse to outscore us.
4. Motivation. Michigan has a chip on their shoulder after losing 4 straighht to the Buckeyes, while Ohio State is going to get complacent after dominating the rivalry for 7 seasons. It looks more and more like 2001 all over again, where the team that is dominating the rivalry assumes they'll continue to dominate, while the team that is being dominated plays their hearts out and earns a huge upset on the road. Ohio State did it in 2001, and its Michigans turn to do so in 2008
Yeah, this is just like 2001.....2001 A Space Odyssey. We will be the scientists in suspended animation, and Tressel will be HAL, mercilessly and silently killing us, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it because our coach is flying around out in space in a freakin' space pod!
5. Intimidation. Tressell is already sweating at the thought of going up against RR, as he proved by criticizing RR's recruiting schemes. Ohio State's players, coaches, and fans know in the bottom of their hearts that they can't stop RR's spread offense, or any spread offense, and they are petrified at the prospect of having to stop his offense
The vest is scared. You can tell for sure if that keep piling up the points on us after getting way ahead. You see, against everyone else, Tressel shuts it down and just wins by 14. Since he's so scared of our offense, he's likely to put something like 28 points on the board in the second half, that chicken-s**t bastard! At least we'll get the respect we deserve.
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schwab
Donkey Punch Ann Arbor
NightmaresDad;1505017; said:
Sorry, this was a Phish reference, gotta lay it on ya'
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNcnmOzQbs&feature=related"]YouTube - Phish - 04.04.98 - 2001 (Also Sprach Zarathustra) - Part I[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsJwmbRRdoQ&feature=related"]YouTube - Phish - 04.04.98 - 2001 (Also Sprach Zarathustra) - Part II[/ame]
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
schwab;1505019; said:
Yeah, that's a great band.
Remind me a little of the Mahavishnu Orchestra.
13 + minutes to get to the meat! Love it!
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
Jaxbuck;1505002; said:
in addition to rules of the actual game, the relaxed to nonexistent eligibility rules from that era also make smack talk beyond pathetic and irrelevant
for instance, in 1894 7 of the 11 regular players on the Michigan football team were neither enrolled in school or attended classes and it was common practice for graduated players from Eastern powers to move west and continue playing under assumed names
outlawing these types of practices was the driving force behind the formation of the Western Conference in 1896, which Michigan quit for a period of nine years between 1908 to 1917, probably over disagreements about rules (cough cheaters cough)
point being, fuck Michigan
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MICH;1504808; said:yea......yea it does (sigh)
But 86!!
aaaaaaand jax checking in... thank you
NF, BN27.... anything? lol
but really, do you guys honestly think TF will fail? all joking aside, would you take him???
Heard what all the M boards have to say, just wondering what your take was
You forgot me...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg]YouTube - Appalachian State University is HOT HOT HOT[/ame]
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Jaxbuck;1505002; said:
I draw the line at Red Grange. Regardless, smack talk based on anything that happened more than a century ago is pretty lame. It's like the Reds still hanging their hats on going undefeated in 1869.
Fuck M*ch*g*n.
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