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2009-2010 NHL thread

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Mike80

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    • For general stuff, especially since the season is all of 3 months away :)

    just for starters, here is how San Jose is screwing themselves this year..

    2009-2010 San Jose Sharks
    FORWARDS
    Joe Thornton $7,200,000
    Patrick Marleau $6,300,000
    Milan Michalek $4,333,333
    Ryane Clowe $3,500,000
    Jonathan Cheechoo $3,000,000
    Joe Pavelski $1,637,500
    Devin Setoguchi $1,246,666
    Jamie McGinn $996,666
    Jody Shelley $725,000

    DEFENSEMEN
    Dan Boyle $6,666,666
    Rob Blake $3,500,000
    Marc-Edouard Vlasic $3,100,000
    Christian Ehrhoff $3,100,000
    Douglas Murray $2,500,000
    Kent Huskins $1,700,000
    Brad Lukowich $1,566,666

    GOALTENDERS
    Evgeni Nabokov $5,375,000

    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses)
    ROSTER SIZE 17
    SALARY CAP $56,800,000
    PAYROLL $56,447,497
    BONUS MONEY (ESTIMATED) (1.3% of cap) $740,000
    CAP ROOM $352,503
    CAP ROOM PER OPEN SPOT $58,751
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    At this point and time, San Jose can't fill out their roster. They don't have the cap room. They need at least 3 more forwards and a backup goalie just to get close.
     
    I'd imagine that Cheechoo would be intriguing to some teams. He shouldn't be worth too much at this point. I don't get to watch the Sharks much, but I hear he's a shell of his former self. Still, if he gets half the skill back that he had when he was scoring with the best in the league, he'd be a nice asset for many teams.

    Also curious what the Flyers are going to do. I don't know their cap situation exactly, but I'm pretty sure they need to dump a contract somehow. I think Briere has a NMC and he'd probably be the dude they want to get rid of.
     
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    Big rumor.. Andrew Rothstein (PuckProspectus) on Twitter

    Basically this is it:

    Chicago gives up Versteeg, Campbell, most likely a first round pick and Huet for Marleau, Kaberle and Nabakov.

    San Jose gives up Marleau, Nabakov and Cheechoo for Blake, Huet, and a pick (Chicago's?)

    Toronto gives up Blake and Kaberle for Versteeg, Campbell and Cheechoo.

    San Jose can't be that desperate. It looks like a Chicago fan's dream of a trade.
     
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    3074326;1493627; said:
    Big rumor.. Andrew Rothstein (PuckProspectus) on Twitter

    Basically this is it:

    Chicago gives up Versteeg, Campbell, most likely a first round pick and Huet for Marleau, Kaberle and Nabakov.

    San Jose gives up Marleau, Nabakov and Cheechoo for Blake, Huet, and a pick (Chicago's?)

    Toronto gives up Blake and Kaberle for Versteeg, Campbell and Cheechoo.

    San Jose can't be that desperate. It looks like a Chicago fan's dream of a trade.
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    That is a Chicago fan wet-dream.

    That's not how Brian Burke (Toronto's GM) builds teams. He doesn't start out with high-priced veterans as his core and that's certainly what that trade would bring to Toronto.

    San Jose isn't going to give up on Nabby (they don't have much behind him) and their minor league system sucks.

    And Chicago isn't exactly in the position to be wheeling and dealing anyway since they will have that RFA qualifying offer screw up hanging over them.
     
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    As for Chicago not being willing to wheel and deal because of Fail Tallon's blunder, that might be backward logic.

    They've been dying to free up cap room, and if they can't bring some of these guys that were valuable to the Hawks back for cheap last year, they're going to have to get more inventive to fill out their roster.

    But you're right about Burke... no way in hell.
     
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    Isn't the Cap expected to drop significantly in 2010/11 ?


    Burke just signed Beauchemin (sp) to a 3 year 11.4MM contract, paving the way for a TK trade. Any Leafs fans know when Burke is going to get some offense ?
     
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    BuckeyeMike80;1493640; said:
    That is a Chicago fan wet-dream.

    That's not how Brian Burke (Toronto's GM) builds teams. He doesn't start out with high-priced veterans as his core and that's certainly what that trade would bring to Toronto.

    San Jose isn't going to give up on Nabby (they don't have much behind him) and their minor league system sucks.

    And Chicago isn't exactly in the position to be wheeling and dealing anyway since they will have that RFA qualifying offer screw up hanging over them.
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    BTW this wetdream that some Blackhawk fan had would put Chicago so far over the cap they would never be able to fill out their roster (they'd still be 2 or 3 players short)....

    Not happening.

    BTW the NHLPA filed a grievance - it appears that Versteeg may be the odd man out since Barker resigned already (and cost himself a ton of $$$ on the open market IMO)

    NHLPA files grievance for mishandled qualifying offers
     
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    BuckeyeMike80 said:
    For general stuff, especially since the season is all of 3 months away :)

    just for starters, here is how San Jose is screwing themselves this year..



    At this point and time, San Jose can't fill out their roster. They don't have the cap room. They need at least 3 more forwards and a backup goalie just to get close.
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    look at some cap numbers
    team roster players-need to sign cap space left (cap space per player available)
    wings 23-0 221k (0)
    bruins 19-3 1.27m (423k)
    flames 19-3 1.3m (434k)
    sharks 16-6 1.35m (224k)
    flyers 19-3 1.8m (609k)
    sens 24-0 2.045m (0)
    pens 19-3 2.96m (986k)
    nucks 16-6 8.29m (1.3m)
    habs 16-6 8.84m (1.4m)
    hawks 17-5 5.9m (1.2m)
    sabres 15-7 9.6m (1.4m)
    aves 15-7 11m (1.6m)
    rangers 14-8 13.6m (1.7m)
     
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    Question for you, jo. How does a franchise's farm system affect the roster/salary cap situations? Are minor leaguers considered under contract by their local team, and if called up, only then would their contract count against the NHL cap? I'm assuming it would have to be bumped up to the NHL minimum, at that point. Mainly wondering if an NHL team facing serious cap issues could call up a couple players as "place holders" until some personnel changes could be worked out.
     
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