2008 TSUN News

[OCBucksFan]

Bah humbug.

 

[BB73]

I think there are far more visible and likely reasons for his transfer than the excuses that your coaches are peddling. Ultimately risking your career to move back home with your ailing family isn't a decision that most people would make. I don't presume to know or understand Mcguffie's intentions but with so much on the line and so little he can actually do to help at home you would think that he would take care of those things that he has control over first and foremost. And if the need is so pressing why shouldn't his family relocate so that he can continue to pursue this opportunity.

No, far more likely is that it was a series of compounding woes that have stricken him in his year away from home. Failing so profoundly at a place that success is taken for granted can be hard on any team. Especially one that was never united to begin with. I will always remember fondly your players screaming at your coaching staff for their incompetencies while the buckeyes ran up the biggest margin of victory in a rivalry over 100 years old. No, it is difficult to work your way through the kind of problems that Mcguffie has had to endure while surrounded by a program that is decaying morally.

Realistically, what options did the boy have? He wanted to see his commitment through. He wanted to honor his word and stand loyal to a system that can't even conceive of those notions. But when faced with his personal anguish and the promise of another season in which the wolverines attempt to redefine failure with himself at a star position you can understand that he decided to pack it in and return home. Home to where he won't have to desperately cling to his identity while the degenerate leadership that reigns in Michigan ate away at his values and happiness. Even if it meant to Mcguffie risking a pro career in a game that he obviously loves he could stand it no longer.

And the humble person that he is, Mcguffie chose against taking a parting shot at the haunted institution that caused him such grief. And RR said his final goodbyes in a statement that created speculation over Mcguffie's health and ability to continue playing, even if he only did so ignorantly while trying to divert attention from the casualties that he has collected in such a remarkably short time.

I can't imagine what anyone would have to be laughing about in Ann Arbor...

42-7 wasn't the biggest margin of victory in The Game for the Buckeyes. 38-0 in 1935 and 50-14 in 1968 were the seasons with larger victory margins for tOSU. And there were larger results that went the other way, but I won't bother to list them.

 

[JXC]

42-7 wasn't the biggest margin of victory in The Game for the Buckeyes. 38-0 in 1935 and 50-14 in 1968 were the seasons with larger victory margins for tOSU. And there were larger results that went the other way, but I won't bother to list them.

I think it's a good post...and that's all you have to say about it?



Like facts REALLY matter in an argument.

 

[ScarletStorms]

I think it's a good post...and that's all you have to say about it?



Like facts REALLY matter in an argument.

Way to help a buckeye out! As long as the other guy doesn't realize how uninformed I am I think it should pass. I move that all statistics that I butcher while arguing with a wolverine fan go unmentioned no matter their relevance.

 

[JXC]

Way to help a buckeye out! As long as the other guy doesn't realize how uninformed I am I think it should pass. I move that all statistics that I butcher while arguing with a wolverine fan go unmentioned no matter their relevance.

You move? Is this a board meeting or something.

I move that this we allocate $100,000 to beating Michigan next year.

 

[ScarletStorms]

You move? Is this a board meeting or something.

I move that this we allocate $100,000 to beating Michigan next year.

I was hoping to set a precedent without anyone noticing. But I think you should know that that 100 grand isn't going to come anywhere near to what Michigan is putting into losing to us every year. I don't want to just throw a number out there again with BB73 watching. How much is Michigan paying RR?

 

[BB73]

I don't want to just throw a number out there again with BB73 watching. How much is Michigan paying RR?

Way too much from an unbiased viewpoint, not nearly enough as far as Buckeye fans basking in schadenfreude are concerned.

 

[Best Buckeye]

Way too much from an unbiased viewpoint, not nearly enough as far as Buckeye fans basking in schadenfreude are concerned.

I prefer the word sadism .

 

[HailToMichigan]

Hey, an octopus! How'd you know I'm a Wings fan? I can totally throw that on the ice at the Joe. You're the best, man.

 

[OCBucksFan]

Hey, an octopus! How'd you know I'm a Wings fan? I can totally throw that on the ice at the Joe. You're the best, man.

So you like the Redwings, does that mean you're a Lions fan too? :p Either way, happy.... err fuck political correct bullshit, have a Merry Christmas you Wolverine loving person you*






*normally a wolverine loving person would be called an asshat but I don't think you are actually an asshat so feel special!

 

[HailToMichigan]

I don't fully understand why I need to repeat the perfectly plausible and logical reason that his family would move to Michigan but here it is for the wolverine fans in the audience. (Note that the terms wolverine fan and borderline illiterate will be used interchangeably from this point on). Mcguffie came to Michigan to pursue a pro career. This opportunity is not something that each and every person is presented with. Transferring is a serious risk to his pro ambitions. Now Im not going to pretend that I know who his family are but it seems unlikely to me that any of them have an opportunity as grand as this on the table. So if the need were indeed pressing, I don't see why the family would not consider moving to Ann Arbor for a few years.

Let me try to avoid subtleties here. This is - not to put too fine a point on it, mind you - the single stupidest thing I've ever seen.

You're suggesting that a family, undergoing some unknown rocky times, should quit their jobs, sell the house, pack up and spend untold thousands to leave town, move at least four people across the country, take the kids out of school (McGuffie has at least two younger siblings that I've heard of) and try to find new jobs and a new place in a strange town, simply to prevent him from transferring? Should they bring Grandma and Grandpa and Aunt and Uncle McGuffie too, or just the kids?

I hope that was conceptual enough for you, Mr. Philosopher.

 

[billmac91]

Let me try to avoid subtleties here. This is - not to put too fine a point on it, mind you - the single stupidest thing I've ever seen.

You're suggesting that a family, undergoing some unknown rocky times, should quit their jobs, sell the house, pack up and spend untold thousands to leave town, move at least four people across the country, take the kids out of school (McGuffie has at least two younger siblings that I've heard of) and try to find new jobs and a new place in a strange town, simply to prevent him from transferring? Should they bring Grandma and Grandpa and Aunt and Uncle McGuffie too, or just the kids?

I hope that was conceptual enough for you, Mr. Philosopher.

why did Rodriguez comment on Sam's concussion history during the transfer discussion?

 

[HailToMichigan]

why did Rodriguez comment on Sam's concussion history during the transfer discussion?

I avoided commenting on that in order to not get in three arguments at once. That's how the RR thread got to be so big. But since you asked, it probably doesn't come as any surprise to you that I think you're reading more into that than there really is. I really don't see how you get "we don't worry about losing him" out of "the concussions were a concern" - or at least, I wouldn't if I had never seen the RR thread.

Besides, given the concussions, the mandatory year off is probably a plus for Sam's health. If this came up in the behind the scenes discussions about transferring, then I don't see that as some kind of a black mark on the coaches. Quite the opposite.

 

[jwinslow]

I'm not sure what to think of the whole concussion thing. RR played it up during the departure, Sam downplayed it, maybe that's just their personalities shining through. It still doesn't explain the calling out by Freddy Jackson in the media. To me, that was either an insight into Sam or Fred, I only have bits and pieces to go on there.

 

[billmac91]

I avoided commenting on that in order to not get in three arguments at once. That's how the RR thread got to be so big. But since you asked, it probably doesn't come as any surprise to you that I think you're reading more into that than there really is. I really don't see how you get "we don't worry about losing him" out of "the concussions were a concern" - or at least, I wouldn't if I had never seen the RR thread.

Besides, given the concussions, the mandatory year off is probably a plus for Sam's health. If this came up in the behind the scenes discussions about transferring, then I don't see that as some kind of a black mark on the coaches. Quite the opposite.

What is the purpose for Rich Rod to mention his concussion history in regards to a question about Sam transferring though?