2008 BCS Rankings

[Gatorubet]

Drive time? No clue. Just looked at distance, and only to make the point that G-ville to Miami is not a drive down for the game and go back home deal like somebody suggested.
That's it. Plus I'm bored and have a cold and can't get to sleep so I'm

to pass some time.

Of course I'd rather play the game in f-in Miami. Duh. But that does not equate automatically to a game deciding factor. We could have played Nebraska in the Swamp a hundred times in '95 and they still would have put an ass whippin' on us.

 

[BB73]

Not my fault the north sat on its ass when most of the bowls were created in the thirties. :tongue2: Nobody wanted to go north in December. See capitalism generally. :p

When they were created, it didn't matter, since the MNCs were awarded prior to the bowl games, which were just exhibitions.

But in the late 60s the media decided to start awarding their 'titles' after the bowls. Since then, it's been a disadvantage.

Since that process was started, tOSU has played in bowl games in which a win would have resulted in a National Title after these seasons:
1968, 1970, 1974, 1975, 1979, 2002, 2006, 2007.

Record in neutral site games: 1-1 (2002 Miami, 2006 Fla) - no complaints in those games, but tOSU had a neutral site only 25% of the time.

Record in 'NC' bowl games in the other team's home state: 1-5, including two 1-point losses.

The BCS has improved tOSU's chances in getting a neutral site game, but having a 75% chance at a reasonably neutral site is still a disadvantage compared to having a 25% chance of being in the home state (like USC, LSU, etc. - this isn't all about Florida).

What you call 'whining', I call pointing out facts about a blatant inequity in the bowl system being involved in determining a collegiate football 'champion', when it was never intentioned to have that purpose.

Happy friggin' New Year. And Boomer Sooner.

 

[billmac91]

What map are you looking at? Columbus to Buffalo, Chicago, and Knoxville are virtually equal to the distance between Gainesville and Miami (Cbus to Buffalo is the only one that's technically shorter, by about 10 miles). Cbus to DC and Charlotte are longer by about an hour of drive time. Your greater point is correct, no one in their right mind is going to drive from G'ville to Miami for a football game and head straight back (unless there's some sort of amphetamines involved), but you make it sound like one can hit every major city in the midwest and make it home for a late lunch.

on top of that, if you're an alumnus of UF, you probably know 23 people in Miami or just outside of the city.

I'm sure plenty of UF fans will shack up with old college friends. UF fans will outnumber Sooner fans 7 to 1 outside the stadium for sure. I'd imagine a 3 to 1 split inside the stadium.

 

[Best Buckeye]

When they were created, it didn't matter, since the MNCs were awarded prior to the bowl games, which were just exhibitions.

But in the late 60s the media decided to start awarding their 'titles' after the bowls. Since then, it's been a disadvantage.

Happy friggin' New Year. And Boomer Sooner.

And behold before the light was the darkness and the darkness was the light
Then came forth the media and they proclaimed that the darkness was not the light and that they, the media were the light.
And the media said "let there be money" , and the masses believed them and said the media was the light.
And so it came to pass that the darkness , which was the true light , was denied. And the false light was followed and made the light.

Thus was made the false God of collegiate sports.

 

[Steve19]

Calling all Gator fans. Any attempt to suggest that bowl games in warm climates don't favor SEC and PAC10 teams will result in the following reputation among all Big Ten fans...

 

[Gatorubet]

on top of that, if you're an alumnus of UF, you probably know 23 people in Miami or just outside of the city.

I'm sure plenty of UF fans will shack up with old college friends. UF fans will outnumber Sooner fans 7 to 1 outside the stadium for sure. I'd imagine a 3 to 1 split inside the stadium.

Yes. So I've said.

 

[Gatorubet]

Calling all Gator fans. Any attempt to suggest that bowl games in warm climates don't favor SEC and PAC10 teams will result in the following reputation among all Big Ten fans...

Bowl games in warm climates don't favor SEC teams. Having a 25% chance to play a BCS game in our home state does.

Bowls in general favor Florida in a big way.

Seven are played in Florida. Two in Alabama, two in Tennessee. Two in Louisiana. One in Georgia.

That fact - seven bowl games - obviously favors Florida if Florida plays in Florida. It does not do shit for the fans of any team where you have to spend a day driving to and back. At some point the Airtran from Knoxville or Austin and the hotel bill is about equal. You have the time and money or you do not.

Same with the Sugar. Certainly LSU or Ole Miss or Miss State playing in the Sugar gives an advantage to all Reb, Bulldogs and Tiger fans who are a few hours drive away. The distance for Gamecock fans is so great that being a hundred miles or so closer than - say - Illinois- is not going to mean go or stay. You have the time and money or you do not.

The fact that folks in Pullman Washington get to play in the Rose Bowl (hypothetically) is still not an advantage at all to the Cougars. USC?? Well opbviously it is when it is the Rose Bowl. Not so much if they go to Miami or Glendale or Baton Rouge.

 

[BB73]

The fact that folks in Pullman Washington get to play in the Rose Bowl (hypothetically) is still not an advantage at all to the Cougars.

One of only two times in recent memory that they've made it to the Rose was when TSUN got to play them when a win would give the Vulvarines the '97 NC.

You're only bringing Wazzu into the conversation to [censored] us off. :tongue2:

 

[Gatorubet]

on top of that, if you're an alumnus of UF, you probably know 23 people in Miami or just outside of the city.

I don't even speak Spanish

I'm sure plenty of UF fans will shack up with old college friends. UF fans will outnumber Sooner fans 7 to 1 outside the stadium for sure. I'd imagine a 3 to 1 split inside the stadium.

I would be shocked if we don't have an orange and blue stadium.

 

[Gatorubet]

One of only two times in recent memory that they've made it to the Rose was when TSUN got to play them when a win would give the Vulvarines the '97 NC.

You're only bringing Wazzu into the conversation to [censored] us off. :tongue2:

That is a damn lie!!! You're already pissed off. :tongue2:

 

[Steve19]

I don't even speak Spanish



I would be shocked if we don't have an orange and blue stadium.

You look like you speek Spaneesh to me, senor.

 

[BB73]

That is a damn lie!!! You're already [censored]ed off. :tongue2:

Why would I be pissed off? It was 61 degrees in Chicago yesterday. Of course, this morning, it was snowing and a tree fell on my car in the driveway.

That's all true, but it was a small tree - no harm done.

 

[jwinslow]

40-60% of BCS bowls are held in SEC country, where folks seem to cheer more for their conference than team at times :p The percentage is higher when considering the SEC-bowl tie in, since it is not an even split - they will rarely be up for a Rose Bowl bid. When the champ is too good to play in the designated bowl, the second place team often takes their place (Bama, LSU, etc).

That's all true, but it was a small tree - no harm done.

 

[Gatorubet]

40-60% of BCS bowls are held in SEC country, where folks seem to cheer more for their conference than team at times :p

That can't be an advantage. I have it on good authority from many football savvy BP posters that it is idiotic to favor your conference.

How can a bowl filled with idiots make a difference? :tongue2:

 

[Gatorubet]

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