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crazybuckfan40
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Redd to Cleveland would be one of the single biggest joys of me ever following sports...
Every time I hear it I try not to get to excited due to it always being a long shot, but we have the contracts, and Milk seems to want to get rid of him...
Every time I hear it I try not to get to excited due to it always being a long shot, but we have the contracts, and Milk seems to want to get rid of him...
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Bernini
I don't want to play fair I'm a thugs-are-us coach
crazybuckfan40;1168088; said:
CB40, it would take a buffoon of a general manager to trade Redd to the Cavaliers, considering what kind of commodities you guys have outside Bron. The Bucks' new general manager, John Hammond, has no kind of track record, so he may be that buffoon. Or he could be a genius, learning under the expert tutelage of Joe Dumars in the Pistons' front office. He is highly regarded around the league so I'm assuming he's at least not a buffoon.
What the Cavs have: quantity, expirings, low first round draft picks
What the Bucks' should want: quality, lottery picks, prospects with a chance at becoming better than Redd
See, the Bucks and Cavs are just horrible trading partners.
The Bucks aren't like the Knicks where if they ever actually freed up substantial cap space, they could make a splash in free agency. The biggest Milwaukee Bucks' free agent signing the last 15 years might have been Bobby Simmons. No lie, his acquisition was cause for a major celebration on Bucks' boards. We just don't have the type of market which draws any caliber of free agent unless we're coming off a 50-60 win season. Of course we won about half that many games last season.
The Bucks aren't in a position to supplement their tremendous amount of quality with quantity. We have no quality outside of Andrew Bogut or Michael Redd. To trade 1 of our 2 players of quality for yet more quantity wouldn't make any sense. The Bucks actually have a crapload of quantity already, who could either start or come off the bench on just about any team in the league, and what they should be doing is consolidating all those players in order to net a singular higher quality player.
19th picks and below typically translate into high quality players.
I don't see a Bucks-Cavs trade being within reason.
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crazybuckfan40
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Bernini;1175257; said:
I understand what you are saying, but money can bring guys...If your GM wants to build around Yi and Bogut like has been said, then why not get a a guy that can play some like Wild Thing, Sasha, etc. with some expiring contracts and a pick next year...
That in a way is a way to kinda throw next season, built around Bogut, Yi, and the new draft pick this year, then your high draft pick next year, hopefully your big FA next year and late round draft pick, to go along with Mo Williams, and Wild Thing or Sasha...
If the right picks are made along with the right coach and system, you guys could follow the same path that Portland took to rebuild their team with they unloaded Randolph and some of their guys they had there...
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Bernini
I don't want to play fair I'm a thugs-are-us coach
crazybuckfan40;1175304; said:
1. I'm a self proclaimed NBA draft guru, I thought ShYi Jianlian blew before the draft, after the draft, and during this past season. If the Bucks plan on building around him, I'll vomit. He'll be 24 next season and duped the Bucks' old GM into believing he was 19.
2. Maurice Williams is a horrid player too. He can't play an ounce of defense. He's a sieve. He had the 26th worst PER differential in the NBA, and was even worse as a starting point guard than the stat indicates when you consider that PER underrates team defense. He allows a ton of penetration and can't get much himself. Also, you won't see many passes which lead to the pass that scores the basket.
3. Wild Thing is a pretty bad mix for the Bucks unless Drew translates his international/college shooting skill to the pros finally. He's a low post player as is Varejao for the most part. They clog the lane offensively. And he's not the vertical defensive threat I'd like next to Bogues.
4. Very few prospects who will be available where the Cavs' pick even have the possibility to be the impact variety. Hammond has already pretty much asserted he has an aversion to investing a lot into draft picks.
5. When a player's former team has Bird Rights, it pretty much takes the Bucks out of contention for their services. They can pay their player more money, give them an opportunity to win, etc.
So I don't think trading with the Cavs would be a positive decision.
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Bernini - What ya doing putting common sense into this thread. Plus us Cavs fan need to stir up these rumors so if Danny Ferry screws it up and not gets it done that we can blame him when we don't win it all. 
But I do understand that it seems stupid on the front of it. But it really comes down to what the new management wants to do in Milwaukee. And it really comes down to what they do in the draft. I mean if Milwaukee is stupid enough to pick Erik Gordon like some mocks have them doing then what are you going to do with Redd?
But I do understand that it seems stupid on the front of it. But it really comes down to what the new management wants to do in Milwaukee. And it really comes down to what they do in the draft. I mean if Milwaukee is stupid enough to pick Erik Gordon like some mocks have them doing then what are you going to do with Redd?
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Pistons fire Flip:
Saunders will not return as Pistons coach - NBA - SI.com
Can't say I blame them. I think that with a half decent coach at the helm, they would have won at least one NBA title in 2006, 2007 or 2008.
Saunders will not return as Pistons coach - NBA - SI.com
Can't say I blame them. I think that with a half decent coach at the helm, they would have won at least one NBA title in 2006, 2007 or 2008.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
jwinslow;1176398; said:
You don't? What 4 teams would you put ahead of them? I think this was a very down year for the NBA, as the two teams in the finals aren't that impressive--the Lakers are a one man show, and the Celtics, due to their attempt to buy an NBA title, lack any kind of continuity as a team. Neither team has a deep bench either.
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starBUCKS
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buckeyesin07;1176808; said:
I'd put some sarcasam font there.
This was one of the better years in the NBA... if you didn't notice that, I don't know what you were watching.
Lakers a one man show? Well, that "one man show" was there last year, and the year before and the year before
Celtics having no continuity? Hmmm, they had the best record and were pretty dominant this year, all while learning to play with each other.
Neither team has any bench? Take a look at the rosters... when you can bring guys like PJ Brown, James Posey, Eddie House off the bench, that's not too shabby of a bench.
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Brutus1
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Yea, I don't like either team but agree that the Lakers are hardly a 1 man team anymore, especially when they fleeced Memphis out of Gasol. Odom has played well, too.
Add ugly Sam to the Celts bench with Glen Davis. They're more than the Big three.
The Spurs were better.
The Hornets were better.
Stick a fork in the Pistons. Barring a Gasol-like trade, their window is closing fast. Sure, they'll still be pretty good, but not good enough to win a title.
Add ugly Sam to the Celts bench with Glen Davis. They're more than the Big three.
The Spurs were better.
The Hornets were better.
Stick a fork in the Pistons. Barring a Gasol-like trade, their window is closing fast. Sure, they'll still be pretty good, but not good enough to win a title.
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