Way to have a believable scenario.
If Smith throws for 4 TDs, no way we lose. If we lose at Texas, it'll be more likely that we didn't score a lot and thus Smith's Heisman hopes are all but done.
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Way to have a believable scenario.
If Smith throws for 4 TDs, no way we lose. If we lose at Texas, it'll be more likely that we didn't score a lot and thus Smith's Heisman hopes are all but done.
Way to have a believable scenario.
I see both sides of this argument and agree with Mili that a big game against Texas would vault Troy to near the top of the list but even if Troy has an average game in which tOSU loses, I don't necessarily think Troy is out of the hunt.
Rarely does a player not win the Heisman b/c of an "off" week in one of the first 3 weeks of the season.
What if Troy plays like shit and we still win, then what do you think?
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
If he plays poorly, yet the Buckeyes still win I think that early "off" week argument applies in Smith's favor.
On the other hand, if Smith plays poorly in a nationally televised contest, viewed as a deciding influence on either team's National Championship aspirations, then no, that "off" week thesis holds far less water.
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It is entirely possible that the Texas game could "lose" the Heisman for Troy Smith, even if he plays well and OSU wins...
If Ted Ginn Jr. returns 2 or more kicks for scores in that game, paint the endzones.
If Ted Ginn Jr. returns 2 or more kicks for scores in that game, paint the endzones.
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Way to have a believable scenario.
The 4 tds was an extreme example. But if Smith plays a good game and we still lose then I don't think his heisman hopes are done.
With the game being so early he will have plenty of time to make it up, will just means he has to be spot on throughout the rest of the season.
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The Heisman isn't about where you start, it's about where you finish. Troy doesn't have to single-handedly beat Texas with 400-yards of total offense; he just can't lose the game. Whether he has a good game or a poor game that early in the season will mostly be forgotten as the season wears on, particularly if OSU wins that game then proceeds to lose later on down the line.
Troy's Heisman hopes will be decided in the second half of the season at Michigan State and against Michigan in the Shoe.
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We're on the same page here Dryden, I don't believe a poor game in the preseason will end or make a heisman race.
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It wouldn't hurt to hang 50 points and 300 yards passing on the Indianas of the schedule though. :tongue2:
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nycbucks07
Lifelong Buckeyes Fan
You also have to take into consideration that we will be playing at Texas. If the game was to be in the 'Shoe, and we were to lose with Smith under center, then his heisman hopes might go down the drain. But since we are playing there, he has things in his favor. First of all, if we lose, I don't think it will be Troy's fault, it would be because of our young defense playing in their first huge road game early in the season. If we were to lose, but Troy put up a fight, he would DEFINITELY be in the Heisman hunt. I think we will beat Texas, and this will simply boost Troy's heisman hopes.
Here's my prediction, and let's see if you all agree:
OSU 24
Texas 14
Troy Smith: 175 passing yards 2 TD
80 rushing yards
:) Go Bucks!
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
Good point, but the odd's of that are highly unlikely. Smith has a much bigger chance of making an impact in this contest.
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G-FORCE
Heisman
CBS Sportsline Heisman Hopefuls
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/heisman
I don't think they are in any kind of order, so I will just post them in order of appearance.
Ginn
School: Ohio State
Class: Junior
Ht: 6-0 Wt: 175
Comment: Running precise routes and becoming a leader. His 167 receiving yards against Notre Dame in the Fiesta were more than a quarter of his season total coming into the game.
Smith
School: Ohio State
Class: Senior
Ht: 6-1 Wt: 215
Comment: Started the final five games of '05 (going 4-1). Left his Heisman calling card: 408 yards in total offense against ND in the Fiesta Bowl.
Wolfe
School: Northern Illinois
Class: Senior
Ht: 5-7 Wt: 174
Comment: Nation's leading returning rusher (1,588). If the Huskies make a BCS run, Wolfe will get an invitation to New York.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/heisman
I don't think they are in any kind of order, so I will just post them in order of appearance.
Ginn
School: Ohio State
Class: Junior
Ht: 6-0 Wt: 175
Comment: Running precise routes and becoming a leader. His 167 receiving yards against Notre Dame in the Fiesta were more than a quarter of his season total coming into the game.
Smith
School: Ohio State
Class: Senior
Ht: 6-1 Wt: 215
Comment: Started the final five games of '05 (going 4-1). Left his Heisman calling card: 408 yards in total offense against ND in the Fiesta Bowl.
Wolfe
School: Northern Illinois
Class: Senior
Ht: 5-7 Wt: 174
Comment: Nation's leading returning rusher (1,588). If the Huskies make a BCS run, Wolfe will get an invitation to New York.
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Gforce - Wolfe may find his way to the "Former Heisman Candidate" pile - occupied by the likes of Kliff Kingsbury and Jason Gesser.
I say that half in jest, of course. You should, no doubt, be very happy with the preseason hype Wolfe is getting.
I say that half in jest, of course. You should, no doubt, be very happy with the preseason hype Wolfe is getting.
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MolGenBuckeye
Legend
I know its a difficult code to crack, but they are in something called "Alphabetical" order
Brian, Michael, Jamaal, Ted? What kind of alphabetical order is that?! :p
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