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2006 Buckeyes Forecast, Recruiting, and The Game (Merged)

I think Texas should be the preseason #1. Their only question is QB, and even still they got McCoy and the very impressive incoming freshmen Jevon Snead. But when you got Jamaal Charles, Ramonce Taylor, and Henry Melton in the backfield, and essentially the same receiving corps they will be very good on O. Their defense is essentially the same as well. Their only tough games are us and OU. If we go into that game favored, I'd be worried.

Well I disagree SATX and ROCK3TM4NN :biggrin:

ND has no business being top 10 till they prove that the Lazarus that was their Defense last year has risen from its bed.

Tejas had damned near 80% of its offense against USC come from one mans arms and legs. As impressive as the stats are prospectively for Snead or McCoy they are both unproven commodities. Your assessment that they will have to share the wealth in a significant manner is I think absolutely spot-on. This though leaves them looking like Texas circa 2002 - 3, not end 2004, or all of 2005.

My guess is that Texas is priced right at between 4 and 10 depending on unknown factors off-season. Still good, but not a number 1 pick out of the gate.

I also view the tOSU ranking at #1 as over-blown and unproven till we see that our Defense is in sync and downright mean.
 
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Their defense is essentially the same as well. Their only tough games are us and OU. If we go into that game favored, I'd be worried.

I disagree with your defensive assessment. They lose some very good players off of that squad including Thorpe winner Michael Huff, and all american DT Rodrique Wright. In addition, they lose Butkus semifinalist, and 3rd team American MLB Aaron Harris, and First team all Big 12 CB Cedric Griffin.

I'd say that is far from the same for next year, those guys were a huge part of their success this past season. Essentially they lose the key player from their defensive line, the key player from their LB's, and 2 studs from one of the best secondaries in the country.

FWIW, I think that there is no clear cut favorite going into next season. Each team has question marks.
 
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<TABLE borderColor=#333333 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="60%" align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 2</TD><TD width="50%">Northern Illinois </TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">September 9</TD><TD width="50%">at Texas</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 16</TD><TD width="50%">Cincinnati</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">September 23</TD><TD width="50%">Penn State</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 30</TD><TD width="50%">at Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">October 7</TD><TD width="50%">Bowling Green </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">October 14</TD><TD width="50%">At Michigan State</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">October 21</TD><TD width="50%">Indiana</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">October 28</TD><TD width="50%">Minnesota</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">November 4</TD><TD width="50%">at Illinois</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">November 11</TD><TD width="50%">At Northwestern</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">November 18</TD><TD width="50%">Michigan</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Penn State and scUM at home ,good.
At Texas ,at Iowa,at Northwestern week before scUM, bad.
Front heavy schedule....tough.
 
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Taosman said:
<TABLE borderColor=#333333 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="60%" align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 2</TD><TD width="50%">Northern Illinois </TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">September 9</TD><TD width="50%">at Texas</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 16</TD><TD width="50%">Cincinnati</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">September 23</TD><TD width="50%">Penn State</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 30</TD><TD width="50%">at Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">October 7</TD><TD width="50%">Bowling Green </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">October 14</TD><TD width="50%">At Michigan State</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">October 21</TD><TD width="50%">Indiana</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">October 28</TD><TD width="50%">Minnesota</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">November 4</TD><TD width="50%">at Illinois</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">November 11</TD><TD width="50%">At Northwestern</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">November 18</TD><TD width="50%">Michigan</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Penn State and scUM at home ,good.
At Texas ,at Iowa,at Northwestern week before scUM, bad.
Front heavy schedule....tough.
Texas looks doable now...their QB will have 1 game experience, ours will have 2 years experience. BIG DIFFERENCE! Thank God our young defense doesn't have to put up with Vince Young. I think we will stop the run and be fine.
at Iowa to me is going to be a Big test...Iowa could be a sleeper next year, Iowa plays really well at home...if we come out of the Iowa game without a loss...then I see no reason why we shouldn't win the rest.

I'm not worried about Penn State. Penn State can't win in the Shoe...
 
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NIU will be an interesting season opener. Garrett Wolfe returns and will provide a good test for a brand new defense. OSU should dominate here with its O against the NIU D, but NIU has no problem getting up in September to take on major conference foes.

Since Joe Novak's Huskies turned the corner in 2000, they've played Auburn tough in Auburn, nearly beat Illinois in Champaign (in 2001 when Illinois won the Big-10 title), lost by 3 to Wisconsin in Madison, beat Maryland in DeKalb and Alabama in Tuscaloosa in the same season (2003), hung around with the Terps again the following year, and looked pretty solid against UM for about 3 quarters this past season. Don't go to sleep on NIU, because they'll give a brand new OSU defense everything it can handle for a season opener.
 
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I think Texas should be the preseason #1. Their only question is QB, and even still they got McCoy and the very impressive incoming freshmen Jevon Snead. But when you got Jamaal Charles, Ramonce Taylor, and Henry Melton in the backfield, and essentially the same receiving corps they will be very good on O. Their defense is essentially the same as well. Their only tough games are us and OU. If we go into that game favored, I'd be worried.

Breaking in a new QB that is that young against a very good opponent is a tough thing to do.
 
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<TABLE borderColor=#333333 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="60%" align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 2</TD><TD width="50%">Northern Illinois </TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">September 9</TD><TD width="50%">at Texas</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 16</TD><TD width="50%">Cincinnati</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">September 23</TD><TD width="50%">Penn State</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">September 30</TD><TD width="50%">at Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">October 7</TD><TD width="50%">Bowling Green </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">October 14</TD><TD width="50%">At Michigan State</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">October 21</TD><TD width="50%">Indiana</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">October 28</TD><TD width="50%">Minnesota</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">November 4</TD><TD width="50%">at Illinois</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="18%">November 11</TD><TD width="50%">At Northwestern</TD></TR><TR><TD width="18%">November 18</TD><TD width="50%">Michigan</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Penn State and scUM at home ,good.
At Texas ,at Iowa,at Northwestern week before scUM, bad.
Front heavy schedule....tough.

I see the schedule as one of the very best things about 2006.

At Texas with no VY is 50/50 and thats all you can hope for.

at Iowa is the only other serious road threat and they are losing a lot as well. Difficult but far from impossible.

PSU and UM at home...like you said, very good thing.

@ Ill and NU the 2 weeks before scUM....very good thing. Both teams will be horrible next year.

My original thought was with all the D we lose anything 9-3 or better was a good season. I'm thinking more like 10-2 to 11-1 now.

Unless the young D just absolutely implodes or never jells at all I don't see 3 teams on that schedule who should be able to beat us. Texas is the only game we should not be favored in right now.

The whole season hinges on that D coming together early and the Offense picking up where it left off. We simply cannot afford a slow start by them.
 
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Anyone else notice how we're cleaning up out of state in recruiting this year? As of right now, he have 18 commits, with nine from Ohio and nine from OOS:

California: 2
Florida: 2
Georgia: 1
Indiana: 1
Michigan: 1
Pennsylvania: 1
South Carolina: 1
 
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Honestly I think we can take Texas with ease this upcomming year...Our Offense will be stronger this upcomming year than what it was this past year against UT. Plus IMO if Troy Smith doesnt get in trouble and plays this whole year we beat Texas, but that's just my opinion!
You are entitled to it, and while our defense is losing some highly regarded talent, we are filling those holes with people who have significant playing time from this past year. Our front four and our LBs and all but maybe one of our DBs had a significant role this last year. Our two starting corners, Ross and Brown combined with MiGriffin will be a very tough secondary. If we go with the proven LBs, Kelson, Killebrew and Bobino, we have three experienced guys (some Texas fans are clamoring for Kelson to move back to safety, but after watching him cover the almighty Bush stride for stride, and then come close to picking if off, except for the drop when he hit the ground, I think he stays at LB. He was also the one who caused Zwick to fumble.) Our defensive line returns two DEs who will be seniors, plus the third man of that rotation, Orakpo. We have Okam, who might have been our best DT, back, plus Lokey and Miller who rotated in last year. Our only hole is at the other safety position, which could be filled by MiGriffin's twin brother. On offense we lose two OL, who will be tough to replace, but Tony Hills Jr. saw a lot of time already and should ease the transition. We only lose one WR, but our main rotation is back.

of course the biggest holes are at TE and QB. We have several TEs to help fill the void that DThomas leaves, and our QB hole is well documented. But to say that tOSU can come down to Texas in the Sept. heat and win with ease, seems like an unsupported opinion at this time. Additionally, this will probably be the biggest game in Austin for several years. The bandwagon will be in full force after winning the NC, and the atmosphere will be loud and more intimdating than it has been in awhile. Sure, it won't be a Michigan or Wisconsin, but several of your defensive players will not have played in those atmospheres, only watched. For what we lose in offense, you guys lose in defense. It will be the second game for that group together, and our RBs will be a mess to deal with. All four will be dangerous. So we will have an unproven QB, you guys will have an unproven defense, that doesn't equate to an easy win for either team in my opinion. Already looking forward to it though.
 
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You are entitled to it, and while our defense is losing some highly regarded talent, we are filling those holes with people who have significant playing time from this past year. Our front four and our LBs and all but maybe one of our DBs had a significant role this last year. Our two starting corners, Ross and Brown combined with MiGriffin will be a very tough secondary. If we go with the proven LBs, Kelson, Killebrew and Bobino, we have three experienced guys (some Texas fans are clamoring for Kelson to move back to safety, but after watching him cover the almighty Bush stride for stride, and then come close to picking if off, except for the drop when he hit the ground, I think he stays at LB. He was also the one who caused Zwick to fumble.) Our defensive line returns two DEs who will be seniors, plus the third man of that rotation, Orakpo. We have Okam, who might have been our best DT, back, plus Lokey and Miller who rotated in last year. Our only hole is at the other safety position, which could be filled by MiGriffin's twin brother. On offense we lose two OL, who will be tough to replace, but Tony Hills Jr. saw a lot of time already and should ease the transition. We only lose one WR, but our main rotation is back.

of course the biggest holes are at TE and QB. We have several TEs to help fill the void that DThomas leaves, and our QB hole is well documented. But to say that tOSU can come down to Texas in the Sept. heat and win with ease, seems like an unsupported opinion at this time. Additionally, this will probably be the biggest game in Austin for several years. The bandwagon will be in full force after winning the NC, and the atmosphere will be loud and more intimdating than it has been in awhile. Sure, it won't be a Michigan or Wisconsin, but several of your defensive players will not have played in those atmospheres, only watched. For what we lose in offense, you guys lose in defense. It will be the second game for that group together, and our RBs will be a mess to deal with. All four will be dangerous. So we will have an unproven QB, you guys will have an unproven defense, that doesn't equate to an easy win for either team in my opinion. Already looking forward to it though.

Believe me texas, I think the Longhorns will give us all we can handle, that view isnt shown by all OSU fans. Although I will admit, I think we have a good chance to win because Vince Young is gone.
 
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Texasfight06: I tend to agree with your assessment of the Horns. I'm always a Buckeye optimist, and we will have a very excellent team at the end of '06 season. At 2nd game, away at Austin, I'm not sanguine. It will be a tremendous battle to stay even or, with luck, top the Horns at home.
 
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Texasfight06: I tend to agree with your assessment of the Horns. I'm always a Buckeye optimist, and we will have a very excellent team at the end of '06 season. At 2nd game, away at Austin, I'm not sanguine. It will be a tremendous battle to stay even or, with luck, top the Horns at home.
Meh, we should be fine. Ohio State is undefeated in night games at Austin! :biggrin:
 
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Toledo Blade

1/19

Article published Thursday, January 19, 2006

It’s a bit early to call OSU nation’s best
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College football doesn’t have a clear-cut favorite for 2006.

There’s no certain preseason No. 1, and no definitive finalists for the national championship game.

Two-time national champion Southern California will struggle to find replacements for its two Heisman Trophy winners — quarterback Matt Leinart and tailback Reggie Bush.

Texas, which denied USC a third consecutive national title, will not measure up to the big boys again without star quarterback Vince Young.

Ohio State won’t be the same, either, without all-world linebacker A.J. Hawk.

Notre Dame, meanwhile, should be much improved, with quarterback Brady Quinn returning.

And Florida State should figure in the picture as well.

Even so, a recent Sporting News poll ranked the Buckeyes No. 1 heading into next season.

That would appear to be a lofty projection, even for a magician like Jim Tressel.

Granted, Ohio State will have a star-studded offense, led by quarterback Troy Smith and receiver/return man Ted Ginn Jr.

However, on defense, the Buckeyes appear to have more potholes than I-75 south of Detroit.

This unit has been gutted, losing nine starters, including the entire secondary — safeties Nate Salley and Donte Whitner, and cornerbacks Ashton Youboty and Tyler Everett — and all three linebackers — Hawk, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel.

Mike Kudla, the team’s sack leader, and Marcus Green also are gone from a defense that ranked first in the Big Ten and fifth nationally in yards allowed and points given up.

You can’t lose impact players like Hawk, Carpenter, Salley and Kudla to the NFL and not expect your defense to take a step back.

Whether it will be a giant leap, only defensive coordinator Jim Heacock knows for sure.

He may have to call on a little of Brutus Buckeye’s magic to pull this one off.

For the first time in the Tressel era, offense will carry Ohio State, not defense.

“Probably for the last four or five years, we have been known as a defensive team,” Smith said after the Fiesta Bowl. “I’m sure we will still be known as a defensive team, even though we lose key and major guys. But now it’s hopefully going to be more of a balance, the defense and the offense.”

Smith already is being touted as a possible Heisman candidate — remember Ginn was last year — on an offense that returns eight starters from a unit that averaged 38.3 points and 470.1 yards per game this past season.

The key losses include game-breaking receiver Santonio Holmes, center Nick Mangold and left guard Rob Sims, who are headed to the NFL. But incoming freshman tailback Chris Wells, the nation’s No. 1 high school player, is expected to push 1,000-yard rusher Antonio Pittman for playing time.

Heacock will try to find the right combinations to plug his depleted defense.

The cupboard isn’t totally bare.

Defensive end David Patterson and tackle Quinn Pitcock — the lone holdovers on defense — will anchor the line, and freshman Lawrence Wilson could develop into a star.

John Kerr, James Laurinaitis, Marcus Freeman and oft-injured Mike D’Andrea are among the candidates at linebacker. And Malcolm Jenkins and Brandon Mitchell have started a handful of games in the secondary.

Kicking could be issue for Ohio State, too, with the loss of Findlay’s Josh Huston.

At this point, the Buckeyes are a lukewarm No. 1. Ron Musselman's columns run weekly in The Blade and toledoblade.com. Musselman can be reached at [email protected].
 
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Phew! I look at that opening schedule and it looks brutal to me. Texas in Austin... IMO it'll be a night game because $$$ talks BIG to both programs... and ABC needs to get a ton out of college football to cover the loss of MNF... but BOTH Texas lines and linebackers are fast and tough... and VY may be gone, but I don't think it's going to be Pee Wee Herman calling signals.

Cincinnati is a huge question mark. I don't know what goes on down there, but they play tough for three or four opening season games and then just melt.

Penn State comes to town and they've been a handful over the years, then on the road to Iowa.

I'm optomistic, but I wouldn't be shocked if we came out of September at 3 and 2.
 
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