2006 BCS, polls, Bowl Predictions and computer ratings

[methomps]

GBW meltdown alert!!!

Is there anyway to figure out if one or more of the coaches voted scUM lower than #3?

The ballots will be made public.

 

[CleveBucks]

Nice move Senator

Ohio State's Tressel won't vote in coaches poll

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) _ Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said Sunday he will not vote in this week's USA Today coaches poll, to avoid the perception of a conflict of interest.

The top-ranked Buckeyes (12-0) are awaiting today's final Bowl Championship Series rankings _ based in part on the coaches poll _ to determine who they play in the national championship game on Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz.

Michigan and Florida are expected to vie for the No. 2 spot in the poll, which would then impact the final BCS rankings and which team goes to which bowl.

``We are excited to play in the BCS title game against a tremendous opponent,'' Tressel said in a statement. ``After consultation with my director of athletics, Gene Smith, and based upon our unique position in the BCS standings, I believe it is only fair that we not participate (in) the final poll.''

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

The fact that JT could not vote shows the absurdity of college football.

"could not"?

What if all 63 voters decided not to vote? What then?

how do you manage to type on a computer when you're standing on such a slippery slope?

JT should have been forced to turn a ballot in. This isn't an election. In figure skating, a judge cannot choose not to vote.

you didn't just reference figure skating, did you? i guess i shouldn't be surprised. please continue to share with us all of the knowledge you have that relates to figure skating. when i want to know what brian boitano is up to, i certainly know whom to go to.

Why couldn't JT vote scUM and Florida co-#2 and then vote LSU #4.

apparently, you don't know what tressel said before The Game about a team not winning its conference.

Just stupid.

i most definitely agree.

 

[Steve19]

In figure skating, the judges are not participants and have no direct interest in the outcome.

I take your point, but why should Tressel have to vote? If he picks the #3 team in the final BCS, he gives the other team bulletin board material. If he votes them in a tie and doesn't believe it, then he betrays his own judgement and "lies".

In any event, Tressel's vote would not have made any difference. The coaches voted Florida ahead of TSUN by 22 points, which is not exactly saying the vote was 42-20 but is the same thing.

Tressel did not vote because he had nothing to gain from it and possibly something to lose. If ever anyone understood game theory in practice, it seems to be Tressel. That's why I like this guy in the close game, he sees all the angles.

 

[heisman]

The ballots will be made public.

I did not know that. Should be very interesting to say the least.

From Tellshow:

Dec 3: Coaches, Sagarin, Colley are updated. UF picked up a lot of votes in the Coaches poll and if that trend continues in the Harris they will be #2. If UF and Mich evenly split the #2 and #3 votes in the Harris poll, UF will lead UM by .0055. UM needs 24 more #2 votes or a 48 point lead in Harris on UF to over come the Coaches polls margin assuming both UM's and UF's computer component is .94. Should I have made a mistake in my computer estmates and say UF's computer component is .93 not .94, then UM will only need a 10 vote margin or a 20 point lead. Last week UM led UF by 86 points in Harris.

www.tellshowbcs.com

 

[tibor75]

In figure skating, the judges are not participants and have no direct interest in the outcome.

I take your point, but why should Tressel have to vote? If he picks the #3 team in the final BCS, he gives the other team bulletin board material. If he votes them in a tie and doesn't believe it, then he betrays his own judgement and "lies".

In any event, Tressel's vote would not have made any difference. The coaches voted Florida ahead of TSUN by 22 points, which is not exactly saying the vote was 42-20 but is the same thing.

Tressel did not vote because he had nothing to gain from it and possibly something to lose. If ever anyone understood game theory in practice, it seems to be Tressel. That's why I like this guy in the close game, he sees all the angles.

actually your first sentence indicates how stupid this whole process is. Those people who have a vested interest in who plays the games are actually voting on who plays which games.

Every coach in the SEC and Big 10 should not be allowed to vote.

What if Carr had a vote and Meyer did not? Can you imagine the outcry if scUM ended up eecking it out?

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

erased due to heisman's post
http://www.tellshowbcs.com/CP.html

 

[Oh8ch]

JT should have been forced to turn a ballot in.

If anything JT should have been prohibited from voting. Nobody intended for this system to work such that a coach had an opportunity to determine who his team would face in the championship. Voting for JT was lose-lose and the talking heads would have spent the next four weeks ascribing motive to his selection whatever it was.

No other coach is in that situation except Voyd and Urban - and they will cancel each other out.

 

[tibor75]

Nobody intended for this system to work such that a coach had an opportunity to determine who his team would face in the championship. .

actually they did. In the past, computers were given more weight and there was an outcry that the human voters should be given more of a say after USC was 'screwed' It's obvious that the system today is set up so that the computers don't really impact on what the humans say.

 

[CookyPuss]

erased due to heisman's post

Is it possible to have a tie in the BCS? I've never seen this addressed but I suppose they have some system in place if there would be.

 

[Steve19]

actually your first sentence indicates how stupid this whole process is. Those people who have a vested interest in who plays the games are actually voting on who plays which games.

Every coach in the SEC and Big 10 should not be allowed to vote.

What if Carr had a vote and Meyer did not? Can you imagine the outcry if scUM ended up eecking it out?

We are in complete agreement that the current system is stupid, except I would use the word asinine.

 

[neomits]

Is it possible to have a tie in the BCS? I've never seen this addressed but I suppose they have some system in place if there would be.

Anything is possible with numbers, but very very VERY unlikely. I do not think there is a system is in place if there is tie. Even in this situation I do not see a tie as feasable. It'll be very very close, no doubt.


Tressel did the right thing by not voting. Quit bitching. The system is screwy as is as it is and there is no rule that says he has to vote.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Is it possible to have a tie in the BCS? I've never seen this addressed but I suppose they have some system in place if there would be.

Just keep moving down decimial points, eventually they have a winner.(I would assume)

 

[CookyPuss]

Just keep moving down decimial points, eventually they have a winner.(I would assume)

That sounds correct, I was speaking theoretically. I don't think there will be a tie.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

is the final bcs poll released first on the internet or on the bcs selection show, which is on fox at 8?