High School 2005 Big 33 Game

[wadc45]

i'm thinking that b/c he had to play man up it slowed down some of his aggresiveness against the run. he definately didn't stand out. i would have felt better if i saw him making a couple tackles in the backfield.

agreed...i think his problem was not breaking down or overpursuing plays constantly. he was always arm tackling because he wasn't in position to make a good tackle. the man to man defense certainly was cause for part of that.

youboty played at amos's weight year before last. i think he can get by with his size now but our weight program will get him where he needs to be. most impressive buckeye on the field IMO.

youboty was much more physical at the line this past year and that is obviously attributed to more experience and also being stronger. i think amos can add 10 pounds and still had the fluidity and hips to be a lock down corner. he was REALLY impressive.

breaston is a good call. i love watching those long striders. i also see a skinnier version of robert smith. anyone know what hartline's hurdles time was vs. teddy gone jr's?

one of my buddies actually compared him to robert smith last night too. i think breaston and smith are the most accurate ways to describe hartline's running style.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I was at the game last night. The first quarter was great...Schoenhoft was awesome. I knew things would die down once his sub came in because I read in the paper he was a runner. I read this morning that the Penn coaches moved their best LB to DE to get pressure on Schoenhoft....which worked.

Sitting in the Ohio stands with a bunch of idiot Pennsylvania people just reminded me of how much I hate going to a game at Penn State. The best part was when they scored that first TD it was all on the feet of a recruit they lost to West Virginia......but they didn't know that.

Honestly....Penn State fans are the worst.

Anyway....I thought Schoenhoft was the clear choice for MVP, Amos shut everybody down (I kept asking idiot penn state fans why they kept throwing at him), Wilson was a force on the DLine, I remember one play where Denlinger broke through like he wasn't even blocked....don't remember much else from him but the Penn OLine was good, Hartline is a stud, Robiskie has soft hands.

Pretty much every time I looked up and saw a great play being made for Ohio, it was because of a Buckeye.

 

[bucknut11]

BuckeyeNation27, what was your opinion of Spitler? Most of the stuff I've read, people have been disappointed with his play, but I think the O-Zone noted that he had 12 tackles. Your thoughts on him?

 

[wadc45]

BuckeyeNation27, what was your opinion of Spitler? Most of the stuff I've read, people have been disappointed with his play, but I think the O-Zone noted that he had 12 tackles. Your thoughts on him?

The BSB article credited him with 8 tackles...at least on TV, it was pretty obvious that he missed a number of tackles because he would over pursue the play or the player...

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

BuckeyeNation27, what was your opinion of Spitler? Most of the stuff I've read, people have been disappointed with his play, but I think the O-Zone noted that he had 12 tackles. Your thoughts on him?

I remember his name being called a few times....but he wasn't as impressive as the other Buckeyes. He did put a good hit on one of their screen plays.......as did Amos. But I was more impressed with Denglinger on defense than Spitler, and as somebody pointed out, he didn't do that much.

You do have to remember that the only defense you are allowed to play in this screwy game is a 5-2, so maybe he was just out of his element.

 

[genevabuck]

Spitler

After watching Spitler in this game and the all star game, Spitler has been very unimpressive.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

The BSB article credited him with 8 tackles...at least on TV, it was pretty obvious that he missed a number of tackles because he would over pursue the play or the player...

That's actually good news, for three reasons:

1.) Eight tackles is probably more that what anyone on the board thought he had
2.) His overpursuing showed that at least he was going full out on every play
3.) Overpursuit and missed tackles can be corrected much more easily than a lack of desire can

I'm not writing the kid off by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[sears3820]

The thing about Spitler to me is that he is reckless when trying to make a tackle. He seems to be around the ball an awful lot but doesn't square up to make a tackle. He seemed to leave his feet and try to dive at the offensive player. He also didn't seem to take proper angles to the ball carrier in order to put him in a good position to tackle. Too many times I saw Austin make a one-arm attempt to bring the guy down.

Watching him play kinda reminded me of Anthony Schlegel early last year. They both were in position to make the tackle but didn't use proper technique to finish the tackle. Schlegel's missed tackles were primarily in the backfield due to his great instincts. Spitler's seemed to be more downfield, perhaps due to the Big33's rules of the no blitzing 5-2 defense.

 

[Oh8ch]

None of the comments on Spitler - over pursuit, poor angles, recklessness - bother me at all. That is what we pay coaches for and it is why even a 'solid' LB wont start until his RS Junior year if he is lucky.

The question is whether he has the physical tools, work ethic, and passion to become a player. I haven't read anything here to indicate he doesn't.

These are HS kids and there are a lot of bad HS coaches out there (probably unfair to blind-side his coach like this, but has anybody even heard of Bellbrook?). When a kid with poor technique gets the attention of OSU coaches it says even more about his potential.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Watching him play kinda reminded me of Anthony Schlegel early last year.

Well, they do have the same jersey number.

 

[Taosman]

We got a very solid class coming in! Amos continues to impress and Wilson is gonna be a monster! QB and receivers looked very good! Quality that PSU can only dream of now! Spitler will be just fine!

Penn wanted this game too badly and need to get their priorities straight! The kids deserve better!

 

[2002UNC]

If your a B10 fans thats not a Buckeye the thing that should scare you most is that Malcolm Jenkins is every bit as good as Amos if not better. Jenkins absolutely shut Nyan Boeteng down in the Governors Bowls. OSU is stacked at DB and WR...hopefully our RB will break out and we'll be stacked there too.

 

[tones3778]

These are HS kids and there are a lot of bad HS coaches out there (probably unfair to blind-side his coach like this, but has anybody even heard of Bellbrook?). When a kid with poor technique gets the attention of OSU coaches it says even more about his potential.

I've heard of Bellbrook (1998 Graduate ).
Your coach comment is right on in my opinion. Bellbrook is a small but rapidly growing school that always had good basketball teams, but the football program really struggled until Luke Clemens' (Miami Ohio) senior year (2000). The success of the football team recently has been more due to raw talent rather than coaching.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Rob Schoenhoft

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Date: Jul 24, 2005

On a team loaded with 8 future Ohio State Buckeyes, 3 future Michigan Wolverines, 3 future Michigan State Spartans and another handful of Cincinnati Bearcats, Ohio was the solid favorite going into the Big 33 game. Ohio started out strong offensively behind the arm of game MVP Rob Schoenhoft and held on for the 34-28 victory. It was the third consecutive win for the Ohio team in the series. Here's how some of the day looked in pictures.
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Welcome to the Big 33! <HR>

Game MVP, Rob Schoenhoft was 11-20 for 267 yards with two TD passes and one INT. <HR>

In his first game back from his season-ending injury last year, Brian Hartline had 4 catches for 101 yards and including a spectacular 23-yard TD grab. <HR>

Andre Amos was a lock-down cover cornerback the entire night. He had one the 4, er, 3 Ohio interceptions in the game <HR>

Hartline and Amos will be roommates at Ohio State. <HR>

Brian Robiskie had 3 catches for 40 yards. <HR>

Lawrence Wilson was credited with 5 tackles including a big sack late in the game to help seal the victory. <HR>

Austin Spitler lead the Ohio squad in tackles with 8. <HR>

Todd Denlinger did a lot of the dirty work inside and was credited with 3 tackles in the game. <HR>

And Andrew Moses anchored the offensive line at center. <HR>Here's a better look at the 8 Ohio State players performing in the game. <HR>

Andre Amos <HR>

Rob Schoenhoft <HR>

Brian Hartline <HR>

Austin Spitler <HR>

Andrew Moses <HR>

Brian Robiskie <HR>

Lawrence Wilson <HR>

Todd Denlinger <HR>

Robiskie and Hartline add even more quality depth to the very deep OSU receiving corps. <HR>

The Ohio coaching staff did a wonderful job holding things together down the stretch. L to R, head coach Steve Channell, Jim Ryan, Rodney Roberts, Dave Sedmak, Ed Nasonti and Tony Broering. <HR>

The game ball arrived in style. <HR>

Ohio's team captains... <HR>

...headed to the center of the field for the coin toss. <HR>

Rocket Ismail was this year's honorary captain. <HR>

Pennsylvania won the coin toss and elected to receive.

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He's back and better than ever - Brian Hartline

</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Gary Housteau
Date: Jul 24, 2005

It was a long and fun game (for the most part) filled with plenty of memories in what could be the last time Ohio and Pennsyvania face off in the Big 33 Classic. Here's a few more photographs filed by Gary Housteau of some of the action in and around the game.
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Pennsylvania took the opening kickoff out to the 30-yard line to begin the game. <HR>

That's when Ed Collington took a swing pass from Shane Murray and raced 70 yards almost untouched for the game's opening score. <HR>

Collington, headed to West Virginia, had 8 rushes for 28 yards to go with that one catch for 70 yards. <HR>

Then Rob Schoenhoft took over for Ohio. <HR>

His first completion was a short out pass to E.J. Morton-Green. Morton-Green had 3 catches for 44 yards in the game. <HR>

On the next play, Schoenhoft was flushed from the pocket... <HR>

...stepped up and fired a 74-yard strike to Mario Manningham to knot the score at 7 apiece. <HR>

Manningham, headed to Michigan, had only one other catch in the game and finished with 78 receiving yards. <HR>

On Ohio's second drive of the game, Schoenhoft again went to air often and successfully. <HR>

Schoenhoft marched his team down the field through the air. <HR>

On this play, Schoenhoft connects with Javon Ringer out of the backfield on a screen pass. <HR>

Ringer, headed to Michigan State, raced for 13 yards on this catch for a first down. <HR>

Along with the one catch for 13 yards, Ringer rushed 7 times for 22 yards. <HR>

Eventually Brian Hartline had a sensational grab of a 23-yard pass from Schoenhoft for the team's second touchdown. Hartline vertically celebrates with Morton-Green after the touchdown. <HR>

Dominic Goodman got his chance under center next. <HR>

Goodman, headed to Cincinnati, was 2 of 2 for 9 yards through the air and rushed 6 times for 21 yards. <HR>

Mister Simpson, headed to Michigan, got the call on this play as the attack shifted to the ground. <HR>

Simpson rushed 5 times for 11 yards. <HR>

Dante Love, headed to Ball State, capped off the third scoring drive with a 5-yard TD run. In addition to his one carry on the ground, Love was 1 of 1 through the air for 48 yards and another TD on a reverse option pass. <HR>

Then Derrick Stewart, headed to Cincinnati, picked off an enemy pass and raced 55 yards on the return for another TD to give Ohio it's largest lead at 28-7. <HR>

Jared Martin, also headed to Cincinnati, was the wide-open recipient of Love's TD toss of 48 yards to close out the scoring in the first half. <HR>

Bryan Williams, headed to Pittsburgh, had a big interception in the game. <HR>

And Brad Jones had a big interception to seal the victory...er...no I'm sorry they took that one away from him and gave the ball back to Pennsylvania. <HR>

Austin Spitler lead everyone in tackles for the game with 8. <HR>

Ohio prevailed and came away with a victory in what likely is the end of their participation in this prestigious summer football classic. <HR>

Both head coaches exchanged pleasantries after the game. <HR>

Then they both participated in the trophy presentation. <HR>

LaRod Stephens-Howling was the Pennsylvania MVP. <HR>

Schoenhoft took the honors for the winning team. <HR>

Congratulations! <HR>

Brian Robiskie with his father Terry of the Cleveland Browns. <HR>

Spitler and Hartline. <HR>

We are certain to see this match-up on the next level. <HR>

Didn't ask! Smile! <HR>

The Ohio State guys were herded together for a picture. If you look closely behind Robiskie, Manningham (arms in the air) is trying his hardest to get in the picture...but one of these things is not like the other. <HR>

Almost forgot Moses! Again Manningham is holding up a number one behind Denlinger in the photo. <HR>

So finally, just for a minute, the guys let him feel what it's like to be an Ohio State bound receiver! <HR>

And why not end it with the MVP in a family photo.

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[jwinslow]

I loved those pics, tho he needs some help on the action shots (it's hard to always be in the right angle)

One question I had was: how poor was the coverage by PA? I know overall PA was outclassed, but was Schoenhoft throwing against a horrible defense or did he just make them look silly when given enough protection to throw well... ?