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#2 UCLA vs. Ohio State, Dec 17, 2016

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Buck33Eye11 said:
i mean if OSU is average then UCLA isn't all that much better. they can shoot, but most teams can when you get wide open looks and free possessions. if that's a top-5 team then OSU is much better than average imo
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I got the impression that down the stretch they had absolutely no fear of Ohio State and knew they could win comfortably without putting forth too much effort.
 
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Same issues game in and game out. Can't protect the ball. Bad/lazy passing. 18 fucking turnovers.

But yeah, at least the free throw shooting has been good the past couple of games.

In the end, I think this team just kind of is what it is...not all that good. probably looking at an 8-10/9-9 B1G record and the NIT.

The Matta era continues its steady decent into sustained mediocrity.
 
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Maybe I'm in the extreme minority but I wasn't all that disappointed with how we played. Missed some bunny shots early that could've helped. Turnovers are certainly a huge, huge issue that needs fixed...probably the difference today. But I thought the effort was there and they fought back in some pretty big moments but give UCLA credit, they hit a bunch of big shots. I personally think they are a really good team.

As for us, I'm not too dejected after that loss. Need to eliminate turnovers and this team can win some quality games. The floor is still pretty low with this team but the ceiling is a little bit higher than I thought initially.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Maybe I'm in the extreme minority but I wasn't all that disappointed with how we played. Missed some bunny shots early that could've helped. Turnovers are certainly a huge, huge issue that needs fixed...probably the difference today. But I thought the effort was there and they fought back in some pretty big moments but give UCLA credit, they hit a bunch of big shots. I personally think they are a really good team.

As for us, I'm not too dejected after that loss. Need to eliminate turnovers and this team can win some quality games. The floor is still pretty low with this team but the ceiling is a little bit higher than I thought initially.
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Problem is, the turnovers have been an issue for a few years now. We have just had some really sloppy teams the last 3-4 years, so that doesn't inspire much confidence it's gonna get fixed.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Maybe I'm in the extreme minority but I wasn't all that disappointed with how we played. Missed some bunny shots early that could've helped. Turnovers are certainly a huge, huge issue that needs fixed...probably the difference today. But I thought the effort was there and they fought back in some pretty big moments but give UCLA credit, they hit a bunch of big shots. I personally think they are a really good team.

As for us, I'm not too dejected after that loss. Need to eliminate turnovers and this team can win some quality games. The floor is still pretty low with this team but the ceiling is a little bit higher than I thought initially.
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I'm not dejected because I expected to lose. That's kind of the problem, though. We've gone from the Thad Five, to the ET Sweet 16 teams, to the NIT.
 
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Jake said:
I'm not dejected because I expected to lose. That's kind of the problem, though. We've gone from the Thad Five, to the ET Sweet 16 teams, to the NIT.
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Does this lead you to the conclusion, setting aside for a moment what Thad has done for the program, that it is time for a change? My concern is the longer the descent continues the harder it will be for someone to bring the program back within a reasonable time frame.
 
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We made shots in the first half and did not turn the ball over very much and we did not shoot well at all in the second half and turned the ball over quite a bit. I know that I am in the minority when I say this but you cannot blame that on Matta. They missed some wide-open shots in the second half and so the offensive sets are there to get open shots. Matta cannot make those shots for those guys taking them. Loving played pretty well in the first half and did not make the same shots in the second half. You cannot blame that stuff on Matta.. Williams is in a bad streak right now and he works is ass off going early for shooting and everything else.. These just cannot blame the coach when guys,, who are supposed to make shots, do not make them..
 
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