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#2 Ohio State 64, Penn State 62 (Final)

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You aren't disagreeing with me as much as you think you are. I agree that individually all those players are more talented defensively than the ones before. Its just that the parts haven't added up to sum yet.
cbf40 said:
Well we are really going to have agree to disagree on this one...

Dials was no where near the defensive threat that Oden is and we didnt have a second guy that could play a big guy down low and rebound like we have with Hunter. Also Harris is greatly improved defensively from last year, so is Lewis to an extent. We lost Jekel and Sullinger, but we have Lighty and Conley, and if I had a gun to my head I think that I would take Conley and Lighty on the defensive end, too go along with Butler...

The only thing we really struggle with is perimeter defense, but that is due in part to some close outs and not defending the pick n' roll that well, but I think since Oden has gotten into better shape he is defending the pick n' roll better than early in the season...
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osugrad21;750888; said:
Dispatch

OHIO STATE MEN?S BASKETBALL
Cornley copes with Lions? share of losses
Wednesday, February 14, 2007
Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Brookhaven grad Jamelle Cornley is averaging 14.2 points and 7 rebounds for Penn State.
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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. ? Jamelle Cornley sat down before practice yesterday and without much hesitation ticked off the names of almost all 11 teams that beat him in four years of high school basketball.
If he could, he would click his heels and go to a place like that again. But he?s not at Brookhaven anymore.
"It?s probably one of the most frustrating things I?ve ever had to encounter," he said. "I was joking with somebody earlier that I don?t think I?ve ever lost anything nine times in a row, whether it be a video game, a shooting contest or whatever."
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Well, Jamelle, shoulda stayed home. Here comes another ass-kicking. I'm a Brookhaven homer, but I ain't got no sympathy for you!
 
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Nittwits ready for verbal wars this time around vs. OSU


By Jon Blau
Collegian Staff Writer
While the Penn State coaching staff researched hours of game tape for clues on how to shut down a popular choice for the No. 1 pick in next year's NBA draft, if he so chooses to declare, the Nittwits were scanning the Internet for dirt.

Continued.....
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This team is not as relient on the outside shot as we were last year, but if we can hit our outside shots we are a very deadly team...
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I have got to disagree with you here. I think when we play top-tier teams if we are not hitting our outside shots we are in trouble. Sure we have won games this year when we were it not hitting from the outside but those games were a lot closer than they should have been. I know a win is a win but sooner or later our outside shooting is going to do us in just like it did last year if it does not improve.

Last year, Dials put out about the same numbers and Oden is putting up this year. The only real difference is Conley getting points off of dribble penetration which we didn't have much of last year.

If we don't start hitting from the outside this season, we are going to be in trouble when the tournament rolls around.
 
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LitlBuck;751120; said:
I have got to disagree with you here. I think when we play top-tier teams if we are not hitting our outside shots we are in trouble. Sure we have won games this year when we were it not hitting from the outside but those games were a lot closer than they should have been. I know a win is a win but sooner or later our outside shooting is going to do us in just like it did last year if it does not improve.

Last year, Dials put out about the same numbers and Oden is putting up this year. The only real difference is Conley getting points off of dribble penetration which we didn't have much of last year.

If we don't start hitting from the outside this season, we are going to be in trouble when the tournament rolls around.
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See the thing is here, you get that with every team, if they don't hit their jumpers they are going to struggle, the thing is this year we can score in more ways that just the jumper, so we are not as much of a liability to score if the outside shot is going down...

Either way our shoooters are too good, not to at least make a couple and the other team is going to respect the outside shot even if we are a little cold, so the middle will be open to penetrate...
 
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so the middle will be open to penetrate...
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I guess I would like to see Lewis do more penetrating like he did last year. He and Harris are taking 25' jump shots when they could be taking the ball to the rack. I understand why Harris does that because he did the same thing last year but I do not understand Lewis. I think Butler and Conley are the only guys that are doing any penetrating this year along with Cook at times.
 
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LitlBuck;751216; said:
I guess I would like to see Lewis do more penetrating like he did last year. He and Harris are taking 25' jump shots when they could be taking the ball to the rack. I understand why Harris does that because he did the same thing last year but I do not understand Lewis. I think Butler and Conley are the only guys that are doing any penetrating this year along with Cook at times.
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I agree about Lewis, I just feel that he doesnt feel like he has to do that within the offense due to other guys being able to put up points in other ways...Now the question is whether or not it is Matta telling him to shoot and not drive or if it is Lewis himself...

Well good things happen when Conley penetrates so with him penetrating it opens up so much like outside shots and a dump or two to Oden...
 
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Regarding the penetration: I think it matters where Oden is. If Greg continues to set more high picks and maybe start rolling, the penetration will be there. When Gregs is flashing the lane from block to block, there isn't alot of place to penetrate to. For Butler and Conley they are penetrating from the top of the key so they can penetrate opposite Greg when the defense allows it. Lewis was flying to the hoop early in the season before Oden was in the game if you all recall. Watch the UNC game again.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;751324; said:
I'll go ahead and predict the upset.

Now go prove me wrong.
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Penn St. sucks...Is that enough for ya...:biggrin:

Honestly I am not sure if we will blow them out, but as long as we hit some shots and don't just play horrible I am pretty sure that we will put a nice little victory together, but once again we will all come away saying that we still have quite a bit to work on...
 
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