'08 Rule Changes

[BUCKYLE]

Because I clearly argued that the only possible way to suffer a knee injury was to get horse collared...

Then you should be for penalizing players that tackle low. It puts the ball carriers knees at risk.

Just strap a couple of fuckin' flags to the waist. I'll start watching hockey.

 

[martinss01]

In an attempt to produce more plays and points in a shorter game, the rules committee went back to the drawing board and on Wednesday recommended a few changes for the upcoming season.

solution: remove 3 commercial breaks from each game and remove all the assinine "game shortening" rules. problem solved.

i for one am getting sick and tired of marketing depts dictating the rules college football is played by.

 

[IronBuckI]

I'm really not a big fan of putting the ball on the 40(or the 35) for out of bounds kick-offs. When teams are limited to 20 hours a week for practice, meetings, and film study, I don't think that it's a bad idea to kick the ball out of bounds and just concede giving the other team the ball on the 30. Not wasting time on the most violent and practically useless play in football might actually leave more time for teams to work on offensive and defensive gameplanning. Resulting in higher quality football being played. I also didn't agree with the rules lowering the tee and moving kickoffs back to promote more returns than touchbacks. Rules like that coming from a governing body that claims to have the best interest of the players in mind is fucking ridiculous.

 

[LitlBuck]

I'm really not a big fan of putting the ball on the 40(or the 35) for out of bounds kick-offs. When teams are limited to 20 hours a week for practice, meetings, and film study, I don't think that it's a bad idea to kick the ball out of bounds and just concede giving the other team the ball on the 30. Not wasting time on the most violent and practically useless play in football might actually leave more time for teams to work on offensive and defensive gameplanning. Resulting in higher quality football being played. I also didn't agree with the rules lowering the tee and moving kickoffs back to promote more returns than touchbacks. Rules like that coming from a governing body that claims to have the best interest of the players in mind is fucking ridiculous.

I know where you are saying but many football fans, including myself, would disagree with you. I consider both the kickoff return and upon return two of the most exciting plays in a football game and, if a coach so desires, he can add some trickery to both of those plays as I am sure you well know. I think putting the ball on the 35 yard line was enough of a penalty. Putting it out of 40 is too far in my opinion. I guess if we do not penalize kickers they might not be deserving of scholarships since every other football player who can be penalized probably is on scholarship.

 

[ScriptOhio]

NCAA bans horse-collar tackle from college football

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned the horse-collar tackle from college football.
Following the lead of the NFL and acting on a proposal made by its Football Rules Committee, the NCAA will assess a penalty this season when a runner is yanked to the ground from the inside collar of his shoulder pads or jersey.
Other changes announced Wednesday include a clarification of rules on chop blocks, or tackling below the knees, and implementation of a 40-second play clock that will start as soon as the ball is ruled dead. Previously, a 25-second clock began only on the referee's signal.
The NCAA also will emphasize consistency in officiating, including blending crews from different conferences.
Rogers Redding, NCAA football secretary-rules editor and coordinator of football officials for the Southeastern Conference, said the horse-collar ban may result in fewer back injuries.
"What we're hearing from trainers and physicians is we're getting some back injuries when the ball carrier is immediately snapped to the ground by being jerked quickly," he said. "If the ball carrier is grabbed by the shoulder or jersey and just ridden to the ground over a couple of yards, that's not going to be a foul."
The chop block will now be defined as any high-low combination block by any two players against an opponent other than the runner, anywhere on the field, anytime in the game and with or without a delay between the hits, Redding said.
Football officials support the change, said Dave Parry, head of College Football Officiating and coordinator of officiating for the Big Ten.
"We'll err on the side of safety. We'll defend the official who may be a little more strict, because that's a major point of emphasis," Parry said.
A video on avoiding helmet-to-helmet contact has been developed by the NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports.
"This is a short DVD that focuses on proper injury-prevention tackling techniques," said Ron Courson, a member of the committee and director of sports medicine at the University of Georgia. "It's been distributed to every college in the nation, and we encourage every football program to show this to the student-athletes."
The NCAA also modified the procedure for restarting the game clock after a runner has gone out of bounds. Except during the final two minutes of each half, the game clock will be restarted on the referee's signal, rather than when the ball is snapped.

Entire article: ESPN - NCAA bans horse-collar tackle from college football - College Football

 

[muffler dragon]

The NCAA also will emphasize consistency in officiating, including blending crews from different conferences.

Hopefully, the Pac 10 officials will learn from those in other conferences instead of potentially bringing them down to their level.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Hopefully, the Pac 10 officials will learn from those in other conferences instead of potentially bringing them down to their level.

I'm pretty sure that it won't take anyone here long to cite a B10+1 crew who could stand to learn a thing or two from some high school crews... Your point is well taken, but some of our crews have had their heads planted up ass pretty deeply too.

 

[muffler dragon]

I'm pretty sure that it won't take anyone here long to cite a B10+1 crew who could stand to learn a thing or two from some high school crews... Your point is well taken, but some of our crews have had their heads planted up ass pretty deeply too.

Understood. The difference between the two conferences when it comes to this is that the Big 10 has yet to put one of their deficient officials as leader of the whole group. Whereas, the Pac-10 put the crew chief from the Oklahoma debacle in the position of power.

 

[cincibuck]

I'd hate to see the on-side kick taken out of play. I can think of lots of games over the last couple of years that would have ended much sooner if the possibility of getting the ball back were eliminated.

Sounds like they're trying to force teams to put the ball in play on Kick Offs to get the excitement of the run back, but the 40? That's extreme.

 

[Gatorubet]

There will no longer be sideline warnings for players and coaches who crowd onto the field during the game. The official may assess a five-yard penalty without a warning for the infraction.
The recommendations must still be reviewed and given final approval by the NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel, which meets in April.

This jumps out at me. A crucial third or fourth and one can now be changed into a third or fourth and six without any warning. This has the ability to change games at critical times, with no oversight, as there is almost always somebody out on the field, and without a warning it is even more likely to take place.

 

[BB73]

This jumps out at me. A crucial third or fourth and one can now be changed into a third or fourth and six without any warning. This has the ability to change games at critical times, with no oversight, as there is almost always somebody out on the field, and without a warning it is even more likely to take place.

Oh, c'mon. I'll bet you can't think of a single play last year where either Florida or their opponent got penalized for having a single extra guy on the field.




Fifty or sixty extra guys on the field, maybe.

 

[Gatorubet]

Oh, c'mon. I'll bet you can't think of a single play last year where either Florida or their opponent got penalized for having a single extra guy on the field.




Fifty or sixty extra guys on the field, maybe.

A just God would have them undefeated come Cocktail time.

 

[BB73]

I'm OK with the 40-second rule, but I'd like to see the clock stop on out-of-bounds plays. As I think Dryden said in another thread, it's part of game strategy.

I also don't like rules being different in the last 2 minutes. I was watching a game last Thursday (can't remember which one), and a guy went out of bounds at exactly 2:00. The refs didn't stop the game clock, but should have since the rule states 'under 2 minutes'. So a 1-second difference in the game clock can mean the clock stopping at 1:59 or running down to 1:20 - that's BS. The pros don't have that issue due to the 2-minute warning.

Stopping the game clock on out-of-bounds would get back most of the plays that are being lost. This weekend averaged 134.5, as compared to 138 for the first weekend last year and 143 for the whole season.

usatoday

First college weekend with new rules shows slightly quicker games, fewer plays

College football's rules makers hope they have struck a balance between the desire to reduce the time it takes to play a game while maintaining enough action.

Last week's games might be an early indication that the NCAA football rules committee's efforts to do that are bearing fruit.

The committee instituted a rule for this season by which the game clock stops when a player goes out of bounds but now restarts when the ball is marked ready for play by the referee. Previously, it did not start again until the ball was snapped for the next play. The rule is not applied in the last two minutes of each half.

Last season, games played on the first weekend lasted an average of 3 hours, 16 minutes; this year that time was 3:08. The average number of plays dropped slightly, from 138 to 134.5.

Cont'd ...

 

[LitlBuck]

I also don't like rules being different in the last 2 minutes. I was watching a game last Thursday (can't remember which one), and a guy went out of bounds at exactly 2:00. The refs stopped the game clock, but shouldn't have since the rule states 'under 2 minutes'. So a 1-second difference in the game clock can mean the clock stopping at 1:59 or running down to 1:20 - that's BS. The pros don't have that issue due to the 2-minute warning.

I read about that game yesterday, but like you, can't remember who was playing and I thought it said that the ref started the clock when he should have stopped it because it was not under 2:00 but that's not the point I'm trying to make. I just don't understand, like you, why they don't have a 2 minute warning so the clock would stop would stop no matter what. They could also have a 2 minute warning before halftime if they want to stop the clock before halftime. That would only make sense if you ask me but that might be dangerous

 

[BB73]

I read about that game yesterday, but like you, can't remember who was playing and I thought it said that the ref started the clock when he should have stopped it because it was not under 2:00 but that's not the point I'm trying to make. I just don't understand, like you, why they don't have a 2 minute warning so the clock would stop would stop no matter what. They could also have a 2 minute warning before halftime if they want to stop the clock before halftime. That would only make sense if you ask me but that might be dangerous

You're right, I've edited my post to say that they let the clock run when they should have stopped it.

But I'm not asking for a 2-minute warning. If they always stop the clock on out-of-bounds plays (except when pushed backward, so the forward progress was in-bounds), there's no problem. And more football plays.