• New here? Register here now for access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Plus, stay connected and follow BP on Instagram @buckeyeplanet and Facebook.

LGHL Biggest Concern: Will Ohio State suffer a significant drop-off at quarterback?

Biggest Concern: Will Ohio State suffer a significant drop-off at quarterback?
meganhusslein
via our friends at Land-Grant Holy Land
Visit their fantastic blog and read the full article (and so much more) here


Syndication: The Columbus Dispatch

Barbara Perenic/Columbus Dispatch / USA TODAY NETWORK

Can Kyle McCord or Devin Brown get the job done in a way that meets Ohio State’s tough standards?

From now until preseason camp starts in August, Land-Grant Holy Land will be writing articles around a different theme every week. This week is all about our Biggest Concerns. You can catch up on all of the Theme Week content here and all of our Biggest Concerns here.

My biggest concern for this 2023 Buckeye football team is about the most important position on the field: quarterback. This is the first true quarterback battle that Ohio State has had in years, and while it seems like Kyle McCord is the frontrunner, there has been no true hint as to who will be named the starter. Whoever it is, can they maintain the precedent that Buckeye quarterbacks have set for the past decade?

The quarterback position has not been a problem in years, especially since Ryan Day took over as head coach. The last true QB battle was between Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett in 2015, following the 2014 National Championship. Both players ended up splitting reps during the season. However, after them, it has been a steady stream of superstars — Dwayne Haskins, Justin Fields and C.J. Stroud. Now, it is time for a new star.

Obviously, it is hard to say right now, at the beginning of May, as to whether there will be a drop off at QB. The team has yet to start summer practices and the starter hasn’t even been named yet. While a battle hasn’t happened since 2015, the situation really hasn’t changed. A four or five-star recruit, highly touted, sitting behind the star quarterback for a year or two before getting his shot to take over the team.

Ohio State University vs University of Hawaii
Set Number: X159934 TK1

Haskins was a four-star recruit who sat for two seasons before balling out for his single season as a starter. Fields was a five-star recruit who transferred from Georgia after a year. Stroud was a five-star recruit who sat behind Fields for a year. Now, McCord is a five-star recruit who sat behind Stroud for two years, and redshirt-freshman Devin Brown is a five-star recruit who sat behind Stroud for one year.

This guys aren’t nobodies. They were at the top of their draft classes and were recruited across the nation. Yet, they chose Ohio State. Has the QB pipeline into the NFL been the strongest? No. But has each of the last three quarterbacks been named a Heisman finalist and Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year? Yep. Quarterbacks at Ohio State are successful.

Therefore, I don’t think it would be acceptable for the standard to be lowered for whoever the QB is this year. It doesn’t hurt that whoever the starter is, they’re walking into a situation where they are just absolutely surrounded by weapons. The best receiving room in the nation is at their disposal, and they have a handful of great running backs behind them.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL: MAR 07 Ohio State Spring Practice
Photo by Jason Mowry/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images

The offensive line will be new and may impact them, but I just want to focus solely on the talent of whoever is under center. Truly, I think McCord or Brown will have the same success as previous year’s quarterbacks. I’m sure it will be a shaky start and take a couple games to adjust, but remember Stroud’s first game against Minnesota? He did not look great, but look at the resume he complied for himself, and now he just got drafted No. 2 overall. Not to be cliche, but it’s not where you start, it’s where you finish!

I’m guessing McCord is going to be the starter, and if he is, he is in a great position. He has two years of learning the system under his belt, sitting behind one of the best QB’s in the nation and has the country’s best receivers to throw to. While it may be his first time being the starter, he is not a newbie to this program. He’s played in front of 100,000 screaming fans at The Shoe. He is ready for this.

And if it’s Brown? The same can be said for him, except he has one less year in the system. Ryan Day will not be a QB on the field who is not prepared and is not ready to lead this team to a National Championship. Whoever the starter may be, I expect no drop off.

Continue reading...

LGHL Ohio State makes cut for four-star OT

Ohio State makes cut for four-star OT
Dan Hessler
via our friends at Land-Grant Holy Land
Visit their fantastic blog and read the full article (and so much more) here


11075829.0.jpeg

2024 four-star OT Jameson Riggs via Rusty Mansell, 247Sports

The Buckeyes recently made the cut for a 2024 four-star offensive tackle and a fast-rising former UAB safety transfer target.

Ohio State’s football team had a successful weekend, as six former Buckeyes were drafted to continue their football careers at the highest level. Several other Buckeyes also signed after the NFL Draft as undrafted free agents.

The NFL Draft has been kind to Ohio State as of late, and the program’s success at developing talent was once again on full display. This exposure is a great recruiting tool for the Buckeyes, and it is one they will certainly tout.

Ohio State also made headlines this weekend as the team earned multiple commitments, who hope to have the same success in Columbus as the six former Buckeyes now moving on to the NFL. However, the headlines didn’t stop there as Ohio State also saw progress made for prospects they are actively recruiting.

2024 four-star OT has Ohio State as a top school


With spring practice over for Ohio State and the college football landscape, we enter the time of the year where recruits are able to start narrowing down their list of suitors to schools they are most interested in. Ohio State seemingly is included on one of these lists daily, and this held true on Sunday as 2024 four-star offensive tackle Jameson Riggs (Hiram, GA / Hiram) included the Buckeyes on his newest top schools list.

Extremely blessed to be in this position, thank you to everyone along the way! Final 10! #GoHornets pic.twitter.com/T8ofEFmoOE

— Jameson Riggs (@RiggsJameson) April 30, 2023

Narrowing down a list of more than 30 scholarship offers, Riggs recently released a top-10 list consisting of Ohio State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, LSU, Auburn, Duke, USC, Tennessee, Penn State and Vanderbilt.

Riggs visited with Ohio State this spring after receiving a scholarship offer from the Buckeyes in January. If the interest remains mutual between Riggs and Ohio State, expect the Buckeyes to try and get him back on campus this summer when the team begins summer camps.

Ohio State’s 2024 class has been offensively driven to date, with the Buckeyes already holding commitments from four offensive linemen. The Buckeyes will certainly look to add a high-level prospect to finish off this haul, but they will also be looking for more depth up front after losing multiple starters on the line this off-season. Because of this, Riggs would make for an excellent addition to this class.

Riggs is viewed as a four-star prospect by 247Sports and they have him as the No. 20 OT. They also see him as the No. 32 prospect out of Georgia.

Transfer safety target has OSU as top school


Ohio State has earned commitments from three transfers at defensive back this offseason. However, the team could be looking to make that four. Former UAB safety Jaylen Key released a top six on Sunday and included the Buckeyes.

Top 6 ⏳⏳ pic.twitter.com/oRika1A0En

— Jaylen Key (@Jaylen_Key) April 30, 2023

Alongside Ohio State, Key included Florida State, UNC, Alabama, Oregon and Ole Miss in his top six schools.

Ohio State is relatively new players in Key’s transfer recruitment, and he has not yet been able to visit. There are talks of Key making a trip to Columbus in the coming weeks and this will be necessary for Ohio State if they are going to earn his commitment. Key has already made visits with Alabama and Ole Miss and has visits scheduled for Florida State and Oregon.

Key played in 13 games last season as a redshirt junior and racked up 60 total tackles (4.5 for loss), one sack, three interceptions and two forced fumbles. He has received interest from plenty of power five teams and would immediately fight for playing time this year if he were to choose the Buckeyes.

Ohio State dishes out four scholarship offers


Ohio state also dished out multiple scholarship offers this weekend. Below are the recruits that Ohio State presented with an official scholarship offer:

Four-star CB Deyjhon Pettaway


Class: 2025
Hometown: Katy, TX / Paetow
Size: 5-foot-10, 165 pounds

#AGTG Extremely Blessed to receive an offer from Ohio state❤️ ❤️@OhioStateFB @CoachTimWalton @coachdhicks @Coach_Dever @CoachO1911 @CoachYorloff pic.twitter.com/eZ3teljyyl

— Deyjhon Pettaway (@DeyjhonPettaway) April 29, 2023

Four-star RB Deondrae Riden


Class: 2025
Hometown: DeSoto, TX / DeSoto
Size: 5-foot-10, 190 pounds

I Am Honored And Blessed To Receive An Offer From Ohio State University ❤️ @CoachTonyAlford @CoachSweeny @FootballDesoto pic.twitter.com/mP4u1usRoY

— Tiger Riden (@riden_jr) April 30, 2023

Four-star CB Onis Konanbanny


Class: 2025
Hometown: Rabun Gap, GA / Rabun Gap-Nacoochee School
Size: 6-foot-2, 170 pounds

#AGTG after a great call with @CoachTimWalton I am blessed to receive an offer from “THE” Ohio State University @CoachDuHart @OhioStateFB @coachdtwhite @RG_Eagles pic.twitter.com/sZ8rKwmfi3

— Onis “O” Konanbanny '2025 (@KonanbannyOnis) April 29, 2023

LB Talanoa Ili


Class: 2026
Hometown: Orange, CA / Orange Lutheran
Size: 6-foot-3, 215 pounds

Thankful for the Lords blessings, extremely humbled and blessed to have received an offer from The Ohio State University! Thank you @CoachJimKnowles for believing in me and my talents. #GoBucks @OLuFootball @GregBiggins @adamgorney @ChadSimmons_ pic.twitter.com/USTtAz84Xx

— Talanoa Ili (@talanoaili) April 28, 2023

Continue reading...

DB Sonny Gordon (1986 captain, R.I.P.)

Didn't find a thread about Sonny but after learning he had passed I wanted to recognize him. Sonny played DB during my time at OSU. His biggest moment was blocking a punt for a safety in the Shoe as the Bucks upset #1 Iowa, 22-13 in 1985.

He spent a few years in the CFL after one year with the Bucs. He died last week after a three-year battle with ALS. Sonny Gordon was 57 years old.

11752186.jpg

LGHL Draft Report Cards: Grading the fits of every Ohio State NFL draftee and UDFA signings so far

Draft Report Cards: Grading the fits of every Ohio State NFL draftee and UDFA signings so far
Chris Renne
via our friends at Land-Grant Holy Land
Visit their fantastic blog and read the full article (and so much more) here


Syndication: The Columbus Dispatch

Adam Cairns/Columbus Dispatch / USA TODAY NETWORK

The 2023 NFL Draft is concluded and the Buckeyes have six players looking to make their new respective fanbases excited to have them.

Ohio State had six players selected in the 2023 NFL Draft in Kansas City, and have extended their lead in total first round draft picks. This year, Georgia and Alabama led the way in total draft picks, but the Buckeyes will have their fair share added to rosters via undrafted free agency.

The event started for the Buckeyes with C.J. Stroud going No. 2 overall to the Texans in the draft despite rumors about a poor performance on the S2 cognition test. He was quickly followed by Paris Johnson Jr., who was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals after they traded down from their original pick and back up to pick No. 7. The last first round pick was Jaxon Smith-Njigba, who went to the Seattle Seahawks to join an already explosive offense.

For Ohio State and Cleveland Browns fans this was also a huge day, as the Browns picked Dawand Jones and Luke Wypler with their final two picks of the day. Jones had a slide, but the Browns need a tackle, and the Wypler addition bolsters a very thin interior front. Zach Harrison was the other Buckeye drafted, and he went in the third round to the Falcons who are in dire need of an all-around end.

Ohio State fans have another group of players to root for as they head to the league, and once again the Buckeyes will be looking to make an immediate impact on the franchises that took them. Looking at each fit, they might not all be perfect, but the newest Buckeyes in the NFL have their future homes.


Draft Picks


Ohio State only had one defensive player drafted this year once again following a disappointing draft last year as well that had one defender picked. The Buckeyes had their fifth consecutive center drafted, which shows the consistent development of the position. Ohio State also had their 10th straight year of five or more draft picks taken. The final notable stat from a position stand point is Ohio State just had their third consecutive quarterback drafted in the first round with their highest drafted quarterback in school history.

Ohio State is still in third in all-time draft picks, but chipped away again this year, getting them to 486 picks in total. The Buckeyes are still the best school at producing first round picks, being the first program to have 90 players taken in round one. With all the data out of the way, starting with Stroud, we will take a look at the fit of every player taken or signed. The way the fit will be graded is based on the current make-up of the roster, player fit in scheme, and the likelihood of the player succeeding in the situation.

C.J. Stroud (Houston Texans - Round 1, Pick 2)


There was a lot of noise surrounding Stroud and where he might end up, as mentioned there was a lot of noise about a cognition test. Despite all the nonsense, the Texans made the right choice in taking Stroud No. 2, which was made more emphatic by them trading up to the third pick to add Will Anderson Jr. as well. The Texans have Robert Woods, a veteran receiver, signed Laremy Tunsil to a long term deal to protect their future quarterback, and have a first year coach whose success will weigh greatly on how Stroud performs.

The reason this fit is exciting for Stroud is new Texans head coach Demeco Ryans hired his offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik from the Kyle Shanahan offensive coaching tree. This means that decision making, timing, and accuracy take precedent in the ideal quarterback to make the offense successful. Stroud fits into that offensive style perfectly given his natural feel working through progressions, and his athletic ability gives the offense some flexibility with the boot-actions that are a staple to this offensive system.

This fit would be an A if scheme was the only aspect of the grade, but they are thin at receiver and have a brand new coaching staff. At least Texans were smart enough to make a the right decision in the quarterback they wanted, and they deserve credit for showing how useless draft discourse in the weeks prior to the draft.

Fit Grade: B-


Paris Johnson Jr. (Arizona Cardinals - Round 1, No. 7)


Johnson Jr. ended up being the first tackle taken in the draft, which aligns with how even the earliest big boards were projecting last year. Around the NFL, many believe that the Arizona Cardinals have the worst roster in the NFL, which is saying a lot given the fact they have Kyler Murray and Deandre Hopkins. To begin bolstering their roster they traded down to gain more picks, and once they acquired the picks they moved back in front of the other teams that needed tackles.

In my eyes, the Cardinals need a lot, and as much as Paris Johnson Jr. is a pro-ready left tackle, he only has 13 starts at the position under his belt. Adding this to the fact this was seen as one of the “weaker” tackle classes in recent years this doesn’t guarantee success for Johnson Jr. He is getting drafted to team that needs a lot of help all over the place. He should slot in as the starting left tackle immediately and move D.J. Humphries – the 30th ranked offensive tackle according to PFF — over to the right side or left guard.

The fit here is that the Cardinals needed him badly, but I just don’t know how successful this pick will allow him to be.

Fit Grade: C+ (The Cardinals are bad)


Jaxon Smith-Njigba (Seattle Seahawks - Round 1, No. 20)


This was my favorite pick of the first round. After the Seahawks made the most Pete Carroll of picks taking Devon Witherspoon with their first pick in the draft, they bolstered an already talented receiving corps with JSN. Smith-Njigba adds a dynamic slot weapon to pair with two different types of vertical threats in D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.

Additionally, Smith-Njigba fills a role that Lockett split time between, and a group of five receivers who underwhelmed at the end of the day. The Seahawks have explosiveness and Smith-Njigba will take this offense to another level with his versatility, separation, and after the catch ability. Geno Smith had been signed to a medium-term contract, and with three weapons now at his disposal can continue to solidify his place in Seattle.

There was not a better first round pick in the draft, and I guarantee that JSN will be successful in Seattle, including being in the rookie of the year conversation.

Fit Grade: A+


Zach Harrison (Atlanta Falcons - Round 3, No. 75)


The Atlanta Falcons hired defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen as their defensive coordinator when they transitioned to Arthur Smith as the head coach. Nielsen was a long tenured defensive line coach for multiple franchises, and one of the most significant players he coached was Cam Jordan with the Saints. The reason I brought up all-pro defensive linemen Cam Jordan is because he has a similar build and athletic skill set as Harrison.

Having a coach who can maximize a player who is a tweener between a bendy edge rusher and bulky athlete on the line is huge for Harrison reaching his potential. Being picked later also takes the pressure off him to be elite in any area at the start of his career. This will be the second year for Atlanta in Nielsen’s scheme, and Harrison will align in a strong side defensive end alignment he was comfortable with in college.

Fit Grade: B


Dawand Jones (Cleveland Browns - Round 4, No. 111)


On a value note, the Browns could not have gotten a better player in the fourth round of the NFL Draft than Dawand Jones. The Browns are set at tackle for the 2023 season with Jedrick Wills Jr. under contract until 2024 and Jack Conklin with one year left on his deal. There are no guarantees that any picks after the first round make the roster, so the character concerns do arise when a player has a more expendable contract.

Jones will need to show up and work hard to prove that he is the tackle of the future, and make it so the Browns don’t need to resign Conklin with a much more affordable option at tackle. He will likely train as a swing tackle due to the health issues Wills Jr. has had early on his career, but his future in the NFL is definitely on the right side.

Being a fringe first round pick and getting drafted in the fourth round is a humbling experience. Hopefully Jones is able to make the best out of this opportunity.

Fit Grade: B (Good developmental landing spot)


Luke Wypler (Cleveland Browns - Round 6, No. 190)


The last drafted player for the Buckeyes is Luke Wypler, who really has an opportunity to come in and compete for a starting job. They have veteran Ethan Pocic who was a solid player last season, and the starter entering last season Nick Harris is recovering from a serious leg injury.

Cleveland needs a center, and there is definitely not a truly solidified option at the position. There really is not a lot to say. It is unfortunate that Wypler fell to the sixth round, but he really couldn’t have landed on a roster that needs him more than the Browns. His leadership qualities are definitely in line with what is expected from an NFL center, and in his college career he ended up on the field a year early, excelling at the position. The Browns also have an awesome offensive line coach in Bob Wylie, who has developed some talented players.

Fit Grade: A


UDFA Signings


There are still a few Buckeyes who are not signed, but the few Buckeyes who many thought could potentially end up being drafted are off the board. Despite not being drafted, they will have opportunities to prove that they belong at the NFL level as undrafted free agents.

Tanner McAlister (Cleveland Browns)


McAlister is the first of two Ohio State safeties the Browns signed, and he will likely compete for snaps behind Greg Newsome II in the slot or at the free safety slot behind Juan Thornhill. The depth the Browns have at safety is not necessarily... good. There is ample opportunity for McAlister to show out as a special teamer and his experience in college playing five seasons under Jim Knowles gives him a versatile skill set.

There is not a natural position fit for him, which could lead to some challenges, but the Browns wouldn’t have signed him without a plan.

Fit Grade: C+

Ronnie Hickman (Cleveland Browns)


Where McAlister does not have a natural position fit, Ronnie Hickman does and could provide immediate depth for the Browns at strong safety. Hickman played in strong safety role under Kerry Coombs at Ohio State, and his time at adjuster prepared him well to play in the Browns two high shell defensive look. Grant Delpit – the current strong safety for the Browns – has significantly different skill set and by adding Hickman he can move to a more natural free safety position.

Like Wypler, the Browns need depth at the position Hickman excels at meaning he has a great chance of making the roster.

Fit Grade: B

Cam Brown (Los Angeles Chargers)


Brown goes to a pass defense that was one of the worst in the NFL, the Chargers did little to address that in the draft. They have Asante Samuel Jr. who had three interceptions in the first half against the Jaguars, but we saw the real Chargers secondary in the second half. Brown battled injuries his entire career at Ohio State, so if he keeps his health he can make some noise in the Chargers organization.

This grade is a pass/fail, and the Chargers pass because they need a corner, and Brown is a Buckeye.

Fit Grade: P



When we look back at these arbitrary grades a year from now, there might be dissenting opinions on how this turned out. The real story is these players all have an opportunity to live out their dreams. There is always conversation about fits and schemes players are drafted into, but Brian Hartline had a really solid take on the matter of draft fits.

There are 32 teams in the NFL and limited jobs available with a lot of people want them. When asked about Terry McLaurin going to the Washington Football Team, he said the team that drafted him deserved the success for being the team that believed in him enough to draft him. Each team that took an Ohio State Buckeye decided that by making the player they drafted’s dream come true, they believe that those same players will keep them employed for the long haul.

Regardless of feelings, all the grades on fit should be an A from that perspective, but we all know that is now how it works. Now that they’re drafted, it is time for them to prove themselves, and it doesn’t matter where they were drafted once the contract is signed. They all have to earn everything again from here on out, and even if we don’t support all those teams, we’ll be checking in on their stats on a weekly basis hoping to see them having success at the next level.

Continue reading...

Filter

Latest winning wagers

Back
Top