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LGHL You’re Nuts: Should Ohio State have fouled USC up three in the final seconds?

You’re Nuts: Should Ohio State have fouled USC up three in the final seconds?
Connor Lemons
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Wesley Yates missed the game-tying three-pointer with six seconds remaining on Wednesday night.

The Ohio State men’s basketball team (16-13, 8-10) needs to win its final two games of the season to secure a spot in the NCAA Tournament. The only reason that the final two games matter right now, is because the Buckeyes were able to win a road game late on Wednesday night, knocking off the USC Trojans in Los Angeles, 87-82. That win improved Ohio State’s record to 16-13 on the season and was their sixth quad-1 win of the season.

Despite shooting nearly 80% in the first half, the win was not easy. The Buckeyes led 52-35 with 1:02 remaining in the first half. 18:55 later, with just over a minute left on the game clock, a layup from USC’s Rashaun Agee tied everything up, 80-80.

The Trojans successfully came back from a 17-point deficit, and were on the brink of handing Ohio State a win that would put their season in the grave. A Devin Royal and-one basket put the Buckeyes back up by three points with 41 seconds left, and they would not trail again from that point on.


Devin Royal.

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— Ohio State Hoops (@OhioStateHoops) February 27, 2025

However, with 17 seconds left, John Mobley Jr. had the opportunity to make it a four-point game with a pair of free throws. He split the pair, making it 85-82 with 17 seconds remaining.

USC’s Saint Thomas grabbed the rebound and got the ball to Wesley Yates. The freshman dribbled around the top of the key, guarded by Royal. Ohio State opted not to foul, and instead allowed the Trojans to take the potential game-tying shot with six seconds left. Yates’ three-pointer was no good, and Thomas tapped the ball out of bounds on the rebound, sending it back to the Buckeyes with three seconds left. Ballgame.

Last week, Connor and Justin debated whether or not Ohio State’s rebounding issues are fixable or not. 75% of the readers sided with Justin, who said that what you see is what you get with this team, and the rebounding will not get better.

After 193 weeks:

Connor- 86
Justin- 82
Other- 19

(There have been six ties)


The big question — should Ohio State have fouled Yates in the final seconds, forcing USC to go to the line and take two free throws while down three points? Some coaches will always foul up three, others feel secure that “the worst that can happen is overtime” and allow their defense to play it out.

This week’s question: Should Ohio State have fouled USC, up three?


Connor: Yes


Sometimes, the process is correct but you don’t get the result you wanted.

Other times, the process was incorrect, but you still lucking out and getting exactly the result you wanted.

The second one was true on Wednesday night. Ohio State needed to foul Yates before he took the potential game-tying three-pointer. The freshman is a 42% three-point shooter this season, and he got a very clean look from straight away, guarded loosely by Devin Royal. If Yates hits the shot, you’re almost definitely going to overtime.

He took the shot with six seconds remaining, so if the ball came through the net cleanly and Ohio State immediately inbounded the ball cleanly, they would’ve had three-ish seconds to take a shot for the win.

Teams have done this to Ohio State numerous times, and the math almost always worked against the Buckeyes. When you’re up by three, you send the other team to the line to shoot two free throws. If — and that’s a big if — they hit both free throws, your lead still stands at one point, and you get the ball back.

Once Ohio State inbounds the ball, USC would probably foul them again, and the Buckeyes would just need to continue hitting free throws to mathematically eliminate the Trojans from the game.

Ohio State had its best four free throw shooters on the floor in Bruce Thornton, John Mobley Jr., Micah Parrish, and Royal. Sean Stewart was also out there, but there was no chance they would’ve put the ball in his hands on the inbound play.

What you couldn’t do is allow USC to take the last shot and then send the game to overtime on the road, with the Trojans having just roared back from down 17. Yates should’ve never taken that shot, but Ohio State got lucky and were able to survive regardless.


Justin: No


I am in favor of fouling up three 90% of the time, but there is a 10% of the time when I feel the flow of the game and the context of what is happening in the game matter.

First of all, teams have started fouling up three too early in the game. Recently, I have seen teams do it with as much as 15 seconds left on the clock. That still leaves four or five possessions left in the game if you continue to foul, which leaves a lot of room for error from the team that is winning and fouling.

You should foul up three with six seconds or less left on the clock. The reason is that you are forcing the other team to either miss the second foul shot on purpose or if they make both, they likely will not have enough time to get a good look on the other end.

Also, if a team takes a shot with eight seconds left in the game, as USC did against Ohio State, the absolute worst-case scenario is that they make it, and Ohio State has plenty of time to get a good look on the other end.

Another reason I was against it, specifically in the game between USC and Ohio State, was the Buckeyes were 2-for-4 on the free-throw line in the last minute of the game. If you foul USC up three, and they make both, you know you have to inbound the ball, break the press, and make both free throws, all things the Buckeyes struggle with at times down the stretch.

The bottom line for me is simple. Foul up three under seven seconds. Other than that, let it play out if they want to shoot an early three.



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March 30, 2023: BGSU Football Head Coach Scot Loeffler inks contract extension through 2025

Bowling Green coach Scot Loeffler takes QB job with Eagles

Bowling Green coach Scot Loeffler is leaving the school after six seasons to become quarterbacks coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Loeffler, 50, went 27-41 at Bowling Green but led the Falcons to bowl appearances in each of the past three seasons, posting a 16-10 record in MAC play during the span.
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The coaching change means Bowling Green players now have a 30-day window to enter the NCAA transfer portal. The Falcons had already lost three All-MAC performers to the portal in December in running back Terion Stewart (Virginia Tech), offensive tackle Alex Wollschlaeger (Kentucky) and linebacker Joseph Sipp Jr. (Kansas). Bowling Green also is losing record-setting tight end Harold Fannin Jr. to the NFL draft.

Athletic director Derek van der Merwe will lead the search for Loeffler's replacement. In a statement, Van der Merwe praised Loeffler for building "a very successful program in a challenging climate in collegiate sports.

"I am looking forward to this process of finding the next great leader for our program who embraces what it means to be a Falcon," Van der Merwe added.

LGHL A look inside Ohio State women’s two-headed monster of Ajae Petty and Elsa Lemmilä

A look inside Ohio State women’s two-headed monster of Ajae Petty and Elsa Lemmilä
ThomasCostello
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Ohio State University athletic department

How Ajae Petty and Elsa Lemmilä showed what’s possible for Ohio State heading into the postseason.

For three seasons, Ohio State women’s basketball suffered from a vast inferiority inside the paint. Turnovers became the top means of earning extra possessions as the Buckeyes sat at or near the bottom of the conference in rebounding, which still paid dividends, and the Buckeyes won an outright regular season title and made it to the 2023 Elite Eight.

On Wednesday though, head coach Kevin McGuff’s offseason focus of improving in the post finally came to fruition, and showed what’s possible in the Big Ten Tournament and March Madness.

When the transfer portal opened, McGuff was focused on improving three-point shooting and adding size and rebounding inside the paint, landing on Kentucky forward Ajae Petty to fill the gap in the post.

Petty was one of only four players averaging a double-double in the SEC in the 2023-24 season, but the graduate senior got off to a slow start in scarlet and gray. On Thanksgiving week, the forward had a double-double against Old Dominion and nearly added a second in a row against the Utah State Aggies, showing the promise McGuff hoped when he earned her offseason commitment.

After a few good starts in December and early January, Petty began a 10-game slump where the starting forward averaged 5.0 points and 3.9 rebounds per game. As Petty’s production shrunk, so did her minutes, taken by freshman center Elsa Lemmilä whose confidence began to soar.

Lemmilä averaged 6.8 minutes per game in the first six games of the Big Ten schedule, starting against Rutgers on Dec. 29. By Wednesday afternoon, Lemmilä’s role and production grew to 21 minutes per game where the center averaged 5.9 rebounds (almost two offensive rebounds per game) and 2.3 blocks per game. Ohio State didn’t have a high offensive output by the Finnish freshman, but the defensive gains and uncharacteristic calm for a first year player made the Buckeyes a better team when Lemmilä was on the court.

Then on Sunday, things changed. Out of seemingly nowhere, Petty showed signs that the slump was over. It began with a 12-point, 14-rebound double-double against the Purdue Boilermakers, although it felt like a game needing an asterisk with the West Lafayette side sitting in 16th place in the Big Ten on game day. Plus, the double-double came late in the game when Purdue was more than on the ropes, they were already one foot out of the Schottenstein Center, eventually falling by 52 points.

Combine the overwhelming edge the Buckeyes had over Purdue with the winter drought, and Petty needed to do more to prove that the slump was over. Wednesday put the slump out of the rearview mirror and showed that what was going on behind the scenes was working on the court.

“We had a little more specific conversation,” said McGuff. “Just making sure that she was focusing on what we were trying to do with her: rebound the heck out of the ball, play stout defense around the basket, simple, aggressive moves on offense. And, you know, maybe just crystallized for her.”

It more than crystallized against the Michigan State Spartans, the pressure formed a diamond. From the jump, Petty was the aggressor with eight quick points. In the second quarter, Petty scored nine more points plus eight rebounds (three on the offensive boards). In 13 first half minutes, Petty was already a rebound away from a double-double. Petty hit it quickly in the second half, grabbing a Buckeye season high 15 rebounds.

The graduate senior excelled against forward Grace Vanslooten, a former Oregon Duck star and AAU teammate of Chance Gray and Cotie McMahon. Combine Vanslooten with the play of stretch guard Julia Ayrault and the two combine for 14.5 rebounds per game, with Ayrault hauling in 7.7 per contest.

Against Ohio State, Vanslooten picked up nine, but Ayrault only grabbed three rebounds, all on the defensive end of the court. Petty out-dueled Ayrault with five offensive boards.

“She’s [Vanslooten] a really good player. I sat down and watched a lot of film on her. I was able to see what her different tendencies were,” said Petty. “Then I just went out there and jumped and tried to go grab some boards.”

Petty didn’t only rebound well, she also had a record shooting day, becoming only the third Ohio State player in program history to go perfect from the field with at least 10 shot attempts. Petty went 11-of-11, scoring 23 points. That put the forward near three-time All-American Jessica Davenport in the Scarlet and Gray history books.


The name’s AP & the A stands for AUTOMATIC ✅

All 11 of Petty’s baskets on full display @AjaePetty | #GoBucks pic.twitter.com/deGEhBRmMw

— Ohio State Women’s Basketball (@OhioStateWBB) February 27, 2025

The former Kentucky Wildcat gave all the glory to God for the enhanced shooting performance. On the court, Pretty didn’t hesitate on any shots. During the slump, Petty visibly second-guessed herself on shots. Hesitating before going for a basket or midrange shot. That either gave time for a defender to close in or Petty to get into her own head. Against the Spartans, Petty didn’t take time to think, just score.

For Petty’s struggles in some games this season, the results show that she is improving the Buckeyes on the boards. Petty’s six double-doubles are more than anyone has had on the team since the 20-21 season when Dorka Juhász had 12 in 17 games. Ohio State also has four Big Ten teams below them in rebounds per game this season, an improvement over being dead last in that department last year.

What about Lemmilä though? For all the freshman gains, continued play like Wednesday from Petty means less minutes. Does that mean less productivity and impact? Not exactly.

Lemmilä came into the game Wednesday and was a force on defense. The freshman tied her single game high with five blocks. Early in the season, Lemmilä attributed her five block game to playing a much shorter Ohio Bobcats team. Against Michigan State, it was against a 6-foot-3 McDonald's All-American in Vanslooten and a 6-foot-2 Ayrault. It began with a block where Lemmilä kept pace with Ayrault trying to score under the basket.


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— Ohio State Women’s Basketball (@OhioStateWBB) February 27, 2025

Against Vanslooten, Lemmilä blocked her four times. On one possession, Lemmilä blocked the forward twice within a few seconds after Vanslooten grabbed the loose ball on the first swat.

Petty and Lemmilä playing this way isn’t hampering one player or another. It’s making life difficult for opponents.

“The one thing I really like about it is, you know, last couple games, we’ve kind of seen what we’ve envisioned in terms of a little bit of a two-headed monster,” said McGuff. “Where you keep those two fresh and rotate them, and they can they can really wear on other teams post players.”

The two-head monster continues to devour opponents like they did against the No. 23 ranked Spartans, it makes an already dangerous defensive team even more frightening because the forced turnovers and steals aren’t going away. This edition of the Buckeyes is actually getting more steals than last year’s group led by guards Jacy Sheldon and Celeste Taylor.

Now the only question surrounding Petty and Lemmilä is can it continue Sunday against the Maryland Terrapins and beyond through the conference and NCAA tournaments?

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