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Zach Smith (Official Thread)

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OHSportsFan said:
To be honest, these are all the things even reasonable Buckeye fans here have been saying about this ordeal- the allegations, reporting, investigation, press conference, etc.

Unfortunately he will come off as the unreasonable fanatic kind of fan, but we’ve all been upset with the reporting and it’s not even our lives.

Maybe save it for a proper forum (court?) but if you have a reason and evidence to defend yourself (and Urban), go for it.

Screw McMurphy.
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Agree.... But, again, as my post above hints... he needs to shut it down and wait until he is before that forum... Court... fact is, he cannot win back the court of public opinion. It's a truth, and it is inescapable. He's not doing himself any favors today.. he's a man who has reached his breaking point.
 
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OH10 said:
Well then Lynn Bruce. She wanted Urban to be Zach’s hype man after it came out that he had an affair with a staffer, ordered sex toys to his office, failed to report a DUI, failed to report a criminal trespass charge, failed to report a CPO, took high school coaches to a strip club... and I didn’t even mention the domestic violence allegations because let’s just assume those are embellished (fair assumption). There was no reason to defend Zach Smith. Not defending Zach is the one thing Urban has definitely done right.
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You're aware that Lynn Bruce is Zach's Mom, right? You expect her to run him thru the mud too, or maybe it's reasonable that a mother would defend her son.... even where that person has done some unsavory things....
 
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OH10 said:
Well then Lynn Bruce. She wanted Urban to be Zach’s hype man after it came out that he had an affair with a staffer, ordered sex toys to his office, failed to report a DUI, failed to report a criminal trespass charge, failed to report a CPO, took high school coaches to a strip club... and I didn’t even mention the domestic violence allegations because let’s just assume those are embellished (fair assumption). There was no reason to defend Zach Smith. Not defending Zach is the one thing Urban has definitely done right.
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It’s a weird (but I guess understandable) blind spot to not see that the only reason Zach Smith wasn’t fired years ago is because of all the things she mentioned. Meyer’s loyalty brought us here in the first place and almost destroyed him... and now you expect more. That’s insanity.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
You're aware that Lynn Bruce is Zach's Mom, right? You expect her to run him thru the mud too, or maybe it's reasonable that a mother would defend her son.... even where that person has done some unsavory things....
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She frames it in a way that suggests Urban Meyer should do more to defend Zach Smith... which is off base.

I mean, her first sentence suggests Meyer is not honest, has no integrity, and is not a Christian for not defending her son more. It’s pretty off the wall.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Agree.... But, again, as my post above hints... he needs to shut it down and wait until he is before that forum... Court... fact is, he cannot win back the court of public opinion. It's a truth, and it is inescapable. He's not doing himself any favors today.. he's a man who has reached his breaking point.
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Totally. He needs to spend some money on a crisis management firm as he obviously can't manage this on his own. Hmm, for that matter, not sure why OSU didn't do the same...
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
You're aware that Lynn Bruce is Zach's Mom, right? You expect her to run him thru the mud too, or maybe it's reasonable that a mother would defend her son.... even where that person has done some unsavory things....
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I expect her not to attack Urban for not defending her son. She can defend Zach Smith. Urban absolutely cannot. The whole post makes her look crazy too, to be honest.
 
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OH10 said:
I expect her not to attack Urban for not defending her son. She can defend Zach Smith. Urban absolutely cannot. The whole post makes her look crazy too, to be honest.
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I understand why her FB post is being read that way.... I didn't take it to be a direct attack on Urban at all. I took it to be more of a hypothetical ... through the voice of Urban... Similar to when I say to my friends or here: Urban should have just said "We're looking into it, next question" I mean.. I guess I do mean that is what he should have said... so.. maybe bad example.. but.. my point is.. that should have been the university's position. So, I took her post to mean... someone should have stood up and said "Hey, Zach's no saint, but he's not a wife beater either..." is all.
 
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Look, if Zach Smith and Lynn Bruce are trying to look like the stabilizing force in the lives of those children, they did themselves no favors today. They did those kids no favors today.

Courtney Smith, for all of her conniving behavior over the last several months, has at least been smart enough not to go off on social media (at least not without a fake profile).

I get that Zach is frustrated but he’s been painted as a loose cannon with little or no ability to restrain himself from engaging in reckless behavior. What did he do today to refute that perception?

EDIT: And seeing those cute pictures of these innocent children breaks my heart. He shouldn’t be using them as a crutch here.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Was it "Here's what Urban should have said" If so, yes, I read it... See my response directly above.. Again, I didn't understand her to be attacking Urban at all... just the situation
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With the important addition of “if he was honest, had integrity, and was a Christian”

Thus implying he isn’t those things because he didn’t say what she says he should have.
 
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Dude didn’t do himself any favors today. Should have kept quiet till the court hearing to punch back with a lawyer to represent his argument. Glad someone finally called out Brett though but it won’t work in his favor especially with public perception. A bad attitude like that has no place at Ohio State University.
 
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OH10 said:
Look, if Zach Smith and Lynn Bruce are trying to look like the stabilizing force in the lives of those children, they did themselves no favors today. They did those kids no favors today.

Courtney Smith, for all of her conniving behavior over the last several months, has at least been smart enough not to go off on social media (at least not without a fake profile).

I get that Zach is frustrated but he’s been painted as a loose cannon with little or no ability to restrain himself from engaging in reckless behavior. What did he do today to refute that perception?
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Completely agree....

Just sayin... from the perspective of a family which feels like they are being fucked over by a crazy woman.
 
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