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Just a reminder that every head coach at Ohio State since 1946 has been terminated or resigned under pressure. Ten years ago Tressel was untouchable too.
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Just a reminder that every head coach at Ohio State since 1948 has been terminated or resigned under pressure. Ten years ago Tressel was untouchable too.
Nobody is untouchable, but I doubt this rises to that level. It colors his character imo, but compared to what's gone on elsewhere... I'll chock this up to human failure. Give the Administration a more active role in vetting and move on.
Even Tressel, the initial issues weren't what got him in trouble. It was the spin jobs and continuing slow burn with new revelations revealing he lied repeatedly. Right now Zach Smith appears to be a one-off case of ill-advised nepotism, related to Ohio State's history as much as Urbans... amidst an otherwise consistent commitment to avoid trouble makers after UF / SEC
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
Just a reminder that every head coach at Ohio State since 1948 has been terminated or resigned under pressure. Ten years ago Tressel was untouchable too.
7 head coaches in 72 years (six, really, as you had a one year Fickell fill-in) is still pretty damn (and impressively) stable. Launching a coach every decade is a great run.
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Extremely disappointing to say the least. Feels like Smith was on strike 2 and a half, then charges being filed was an easy strike 3. As to what it means for the other staff and UFM, I'll wait to see what comes to light on what was actually known versus alleged.
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All four permanent head coaches since 1951 are in the College Football Hall of Fame: Hayes, Bruce, Cooper, Tressel. Meyer will eventually be the fifth.
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AJHawkfan
Wanna make $14 the hard way?
I can't say I'm sorry to see Smith go - especially in light of the allegations. There's a reason why his salary was where it was compared to the other assistants. Hopefully he can get his shit together and change his behavior in the future.
As for Meyer, I would say that it's extremely likely that he knew about the allegations while at UF. Maybe it was the fact that no charges were filed that saved Smith; maybe the fact that he was Earle's grandson; maybe Earle himself made a plea to Urban to keep Smith's job after the first time(s); maybe Urban didn't feel comfortable rocking the boat in that manner at that point in his career; maybe he changed his personal standards as to what was acceptable and what wasn't. I'm guessing it was a combination of all of the above and more.
He's definitely raised his standards as far as what he will tolerate from his players since his days at UF, maybe he's done the same with his assistant coaches. Of course, continued on-field success will afford you the ability to be more selective in who you take/keep......
As for Meyer, I would say that it's extremely likely that he knew about the allegations while at UF. Maybe it was the fact that no charges were filed that saved Smith; maybe the fact that he was Earle's grandson; maybe Earle himself made a plea to Urban to keep Smith's job after the first time(s); maybe Urban didn't feel comfortable rocking the boat in that manner at that point in his career; maybe he changed his personal standards as to what was acceptable and what wasn't. I'm guessing it was a combination of all of the above and more.
He's definitely raised his standards as far as what he will tolerate from his players since his days at UF, maybe he's done the same with his assistant coaches. Of course, continued on-field success will afford you the ability to be more selective in who you take/keep......
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bukIpower
Head Coach
Smith's Lawyer has come out with a statement (via bucknuts)
"OSU was put in a corner by the unfounded accusations of an ex-wife who weaponized 9-1-1 many times over the years. Many ex-husbands know exactly what is going on here as well as every single police officer that ever responded to their home. Eventually, Zach was advised to record his ex-wife when she became irrationally combative to protect himself. Now that this has cost him a career, he has no choice but to set the record straight. But, unlike the method used by his ex-wife, he will deal with this in domestic court where it all should have stayed."
So from the way I read it he doesn't blame tOSU for how they handled this and from what I can tell he has verbal proof that perhaps this isn't what most of us (myself included) were lead to believe. This is a good play by Smith because his career would be over if he came out and made this even more public then it already is. Perhaps we are missing a lot of the story but maybe not? At any rate looks like Zach has taken tOSU out of this messy situation.
"OSU was put in a corner by the unfounded accusations of an ex-wife who weaponized 9-1-1 many times over the years. Many ex-husbands know exactly what is going on here as well as every single police officer that ever responded to their home. Eventually, Zach was advised to record his ex-wife when she became irrationally combative to protect himself. Now that this has cost him a career, he has no choice but to set the record straight. But, unlike the method used by his ex-wife, he will deal with this in domestic court where it all should have stayed."
So from the way I read it he doesn't blame tOSU for how they handled this and from what I can tell he has verbal proof that perhaps this isn't what most of us (myself included) were lead to believe. This is a good play by Smith because his career would be over if he came out and made this even more public then it already is. Perhaps we are missing a lot of the story but maybe not? At any rate looks like Zach has taken tOSU out of this messy situation.
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Hstead
Legend
This comes with little surprise really. The guy continued to show his lack of judgement and maturity on Twitter. It was a matter of time before he embarrassed OSU although I am not sure he could have picked a worse deed to embarrass the school with.
I take that back, he didn’t Sandusky.
But still he is an ass clown and it was mentioned years ago on this thread. Glad he is gone. Feel sorry for his kids whom he has embarrassed the most. It’s not their fault their dad is a douche nozzle.
I take that back, he didn’t Sandusky.
But still he is an ass clown and it was mentioned years ago on this thread. Glad he is gone. Feel sorry for his kids whom he has embarrassed the most. It’s not their fault their dad is a douche nozzle.
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Systems_id
Head Coach
Yeah the situation might not be as bad as we’re thinking but it’s still another incident in a looooong lists of incidents. It’d be like Steven Sarkesian getting fired for tweeting about his favorite type of tequila. Harmless in any other context but you just don’t want the headache anymore.
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BigWoof31
"Barkin' up the wrong tree"
As someone who is a fan of a team that has gotten their ass kicked by Meyer for years and dislikes him in general, I can tell you that there isn't much feeling down here for him to lose his job. He made a shitty hire and dealt with it quickly. The best you could possible do in that situation.
Now, I would imagine several B1G teams and ND will use it extensively on the recruiting trail. But dial up another league championship and trip to the CFP and all that shit is going to go away.
Corch has earned the chance to make this right.
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