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'You Are All Just Stupid Kids' - teacher said to 4-5yr olds

I started off teaching first grade in Anderson, an upper middle/middle class burb, got riffed and taught another three years of elementary in an inner city school.

It takes patience to teach first graders in a good school. It takes the patience of Job to teach first graders from poverty. You find yourself fighting a culture war... they don't know "sit down and get quiet," they don't see school as an oppurtunity, they don't know about time outs and indoor voices or that 'fuck you' is an inappropriate response and they don't know how much they can do intellectually... there are no newspapers at home, or books, and no exposure to kids where all of those things are the norm. It's a risk to bring their parents into the school. They get into fights with each other. They get into shouting matches with teachers and administrators. They say things to their child and to other children that won't be found in parenting guides or teacher manuals. You can't assign homework because the books don't come back to school if they go home.

Why do I bring all this up? I suspect that this teacher should have been out of the profession years ago. She sounds like the poster child for career burn out. But I can tell you from experience that it is very easy to explode from the frustration and aim your words at the kids... because they will hear them and they will react... and not at all the things; cultural, economic, political that create the mess and won't be affected by your anger.

I don't know if this is a poverty school. It doesn't look like it from the outside. If it is, I might be willing to cut the lady some slack. Unfortunately her response only adds to the crisis.
 
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BUCKYLE;1103675; said:
Because there is no reason for a state paid employee to verbally abuse his five year old.

But what if I paid her to do it?

All kidding aside, the kids weren't singled out, it was a general voicing of displeasure. Do I agree with it? No. But if this scars your child's life then they weren't going to make it anyways... Are teachers perfect? No. Does this happen all over the country all the time? More then likely. Will it change? Probably not...
 
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I hunt manatees;1103683; said:
But what if I paid her to do it?

All kidding aside, the kids weren't singled out, it was a general voicing of displeasure. Do I agree with it? No. But if this scars your child's life then they weren't going to make it anyways... Are teachers perfect? No. Does this happen all over the country all the time? More then likely. Will it change? Probably not...

And just because my child "wasn't going to make it anyways", they STILL have NO business talking to them like that.

I know teachers aren't perfect. I agree it happens far more than this instance, doesn't make it right.

Will it change? Bet that teacher don't say it to my child again. Change enough for me for now.
 
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cincibuck;1103647; said:
I started off teaching first grade in Anderson, an upper middle/middle class burb, got riffed and taught another three years of elementary in an inner city school.

It takes patience to teach first graders in a good school. It takes the patience of Job to teach first graders from poverty. You find yourself fighting a culture war... they don't know "sit down and get quiet," they don't see school as an oppurtunity, they don't know about time outs and indoor voices or that 'fuck you' is an inappropriate response and they don't know how much they can do intellectually... there are no newspapers at home, or books, and no exposure to kids where all of those things are the norm. It's a risk to bring their parents into the school. They get into fights with each other. They get into shouting matches with teachers and administrators. They say things to their child and to other children that won't be found in parenting guides or teacher manuals. You can't assign homework because the books don't come back to school if they go home.

Why do I bring all this up? I suspect that this teacher should have been out of the profession years ago. She sounds like the poster child for career burn out. But I can tell you from experience that it is very easy to explode from the frustration and aim your words at the kids... because they will hear them and they will react... and not at all the things; cultural, economic, political that create the mess and won't be affected by your anger.

I don't know if this is a poverty school. It doesn't look like it from the outside. If it is, I might be willing to cut the lady some slack. Unfortunately her response only adds to the crisis.

My daughter-in-law teachers kindergarten in a low-income neighborhood. Many of the kids speak little English, and at the start of the year most didn't know what numbers were or the letters of the alphabet. Most of the parents don't show much interest in the kids. She deals with about 45 kids, half in the morning, half in the afternoon.

I would never have the patience to be able to do that job.
 
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BUCKYLE;1103687; said:
And just because my child "wasn't going to make it anyways", they STILL have NO business talking to them like that.

Never said I agreed with the happenings...

Will it change? Bet that teacher don't say it to my child again. Change enough for me for now.
That teacher may never say it to your child again, but she might have one saved up for you.
 
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I hunt manatees;1103848; said:
That teacher may never say it your child again, but she might have one saved up for you.

I'd say that mistake has less to do with my "stupidity" and more to do with me not giving a fuck that day in fourth grade english class. My dog died that morning, you fucking asshole. :biggrin:
 
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BUCKYLE;1103850; said:
I'd say that mistake has less to do with my "stupidity" and more to do with me not giving a fuck that day in fourth grade english class. My dog died that morning, you fucking asshole. :biggrin:


And you think that rat poison grows on trees? This guy was out shucking oysters for 5 on the dollar during school hours.
 
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Gatorubet;1104073; said:
What about the classrooms of real stupid little kids.....now the teachers will be forced to lie to them:shake:

Scene: Int.:Kindergarten class
Background: Alphabet tiles on the wall above a green chalk board, colorful wooden blocks scattered on a multi-colored rag rug.
Closeup shot: face of a dark haired, red cheeked child, face smeared with white paste and goldenrod crayon stuck in his nose. Focus on the crayon, pan out to the wide eyes of the child and he sniffs and cries.

Cut to upper right, pan up the body of a female, dressed in a primary red smock, exasperated look on her face, hand reaching down and toward the crayon.

Mrs. Wahtdafck(outsourced customer service enthusiastic voice) Billy, you are a genius. I would have never found that crayon if you hadn't stuck it in your nose! You get an A!
 
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