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Yankees lose! Thaaaaaaa, Yankees LOSE!

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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Blame MLB for that, not the Yanks or the Sox. That's one of the great things about the NFL, the way it's organized. MLB could learn a lesson or two about league managment if Parity is the goal.... actually, even if Parity is not the goal, MLB could learn a lesson or two from the NFL.
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Fair enough, but the benefactor of the lack of parity is the Yankees, therefore they get my hatred. The league management is so poor that they are almost undeserving of hatred for the joke of a league they have allowed to develop, with steroids being their latest blunder (why should I even believe they are testing players, when I know the next positive test will just be even more detrimental to their "popularity"?)
 
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I just want to state that I understand why so many people hate the Yankees. But, if you look in history, the years that the Yankees do well tend to be some of baseball's most popular years. The Yankees generate more money for other teams by traveling to their stadiums and selling out their games than the teams make playing other teams. One problem that exists is that since unlimited spending is allowed, certain owners don't spend the money they should and pocket it.

I'm not saying that unlimited spending should be allowed, but since it is, the owners need to compete better. So many owners make tons of $$$ off Steinbrenner forking over luxury taxes, but they just pocket it.

There are definitely problems in the current system, but I think many owners could handle it better. Overall, the Yankees hold baseball together pretty well, and the sport would suffer if it were not for their success

BuckeyeNation27 said:
sorry, i can't continue discussing this with a non-athlete like yourself.....my team is playing in the playoffs :p
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See BN27, these are all tedginn05 statements you are making...I'm waiting for something a little more thoughtful to come from your mouth...

Good luck to your team by the way:)
 
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Golferdow01 said:
The Yankees generate more money for other teams by traveling to their stadiums and selling out their games than the teams make playing other teams.
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Maybe they should try selling out their own games first..
The last I had seen, a couple of months ago, they Yankees had only sold out 33 of 66 home games, that is truly pathetic.
For a team with that kind of payroll, star power, and winning percentage they should be sold out years in advance.
Look at the Tribes sellout streak, back at a time when baseball wasn't the most popular sport around (just after the strike), they went years selling out every game.
11+ million people cant sell out a stadium the same size as The Jake, thats bad.
But, I am sure they will buy another team for next year and make another run at the World Series, yawn.


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I looked it up, from the yesnetwork.com
"The team leads the league in total home attendance and average home attendance (50,455 in 80 dates) and has had 42 sellouts." (as of Sept 24th)
 
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strohs said:
Maybe they should try selling out their own games first..
The last I had seen, a couple of months ago, they Yankees had only sold out 33 of 66 home games, that is truly pathetic.
For a team with that kind of payroll, star power, and winning percentage they should be sold out years in advance.
Look at the Tribes sellout streak, back at a time when baseball wasn't the most popular sport around (just after the strike), they went years selling out every game.
11+ million people cant sell out a stadium the same size as The Jake, thats bad.
But, I am sure they will buy another team for next year and make another run at the World Series, yawn.


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I looked it up, from the yesnetwork.com
"The team leads the league in total home attendance and average home attendance (50,455 in 80 dates) and has had 42 sellouts." (as of Sept 24th)
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Good find, but I was referring to their travelling and fanbase, I agree home attendance is not where it should be
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
you dont think baseball would make up the money "lost" on the yankees if they were forced to play fair?
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Read my previous posts BN, I said the system wasn't perfect. Now you say not fair, but once again we have an opinion taking prescedance over fact. I was referring to well over 70 years, if not more of tradition. Go ahead and try and dig up some statistics, but when the Yankees do well, the popularity of baseball overall does better.
 
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Golferdow01 said:
Read my previous posts BN, I said the system wasn't perfect. Now you say not fair, but once again we have an opinion taking prescedance over fact. I was referring to well over 70 years, if not more of tradition. Go ahead and try and dig up some statistics, but when the Yankees do well, the popularity of baseball overall does better.
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I agree that basebell is better off with the Yankees doing "well", but not when they are winning the World Series three years in a row. Everyone wants to see the Yankees in the playoffs, but non-Yankee fans want them in just so they can see them knocked out of the playoffs.

Fucking hippies.
 
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All that being said you really have to be impressed with what the angels have done the last three days. Three wins in three different cities, I'll be interested to see if they hit a wall in game 2 or if they continue on.
 
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Golferdow01 said:
Read my previous posts BN, I said the system wasn't perfect. Now you say not fair, but once again we have an opinion taking prescedance over fact. I was referring to well over 70 years, if not more of tradition. Go ahead and try and dig up some statistics, but when the Yankees do well, the popularity of baseball overall does better.
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What I'm saying is, if the yankees are forced to play fair (salary cap, not buy every single player from the all star game,...) that means other teams will actually have a chance. With teams like Pittsburgh and Milwaukee not sucking ass every single year, I'm guessing fans will go watch them.....and it will be good for baseball.

But I live with yankee fans, so I understand their mentality that they are God's gift to baseball and actually enforcing rules like the other major sports have just wouldn't be "right for the game".
 
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I heard on ESPN radio this morning that they were moaning about how bad ratings will be for baseball now without the New Yawk Yawnkees or the Bahston Red Sawx.

Personally I think the ratings nationwide will be better, I think people were tired of seeing Yankees/Red Sox during the regular season, let alone the playoffs.

Real baseball fans are tired of seeing the big money teams in the playoffs/series every year. Unfortunately with the big market teams still getting their way in the revenue disparity in major league baseball, true parity will never happen. And they wonder why baseball is declining in popularity.
 
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buckeyefool said:
All that being said you really have to be impressed with what the angels have done the last three days. Three wins in three different cities, I'll be interested to see if they hit a wall in game 2 or if they continue on.
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Impressive indeed. All I heard yesterday is what a disadvantage the Angels had coming into this series. I guess their win shut those folks up, at least for a day.
 
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