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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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Bucklion;1885966; said:
Bruce Feldman on ESPN News just brought up Dez Bryant...WTF does he have to do with anything? Jesus these media wonks sure do reach (around)...

EDIT: He also just said it will be "hard to not" vacate the 2010 season... :shake:
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The eSPIN retards are just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks at this point.

I'd say it's time to ignore them, but I by and large already do when it comes to college athletics.
 
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Okay, just read the emails. I must say I'm disappointed, and will now be shocked if the punishment doesn't end up being much harsher. :ohwell:
 
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CleveBucks;1885938; said:
The question about "did you forward those emails to anyone" is an interesting one. Almost like the answer was "yes" and Wetzel knew as much because his source is within the AD or Office of Legal Affairs. That makes me think there's much more to this story than what has come out so far. It's not an obvious question that an uninformed outsider would think to ask at that time.

To be honest, when I saw that exchange, the first thing I thought was that JT was taking a bullet for whoever he forwarded the info to. Compliance, Legal, Smith, or whoever. If JT passed the info up the chain of command and it was ignored, it appears much more like a systemic problem (lack of institutional control). If JT says nobody else knew, he can take the bullet and spare the program.

I'm really afraid that this is not over by a longshot.

< disclaimer: I have no inside info. >
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I just can't believe, after all of this, that the university would not be completely forthright in saying everything that they can say. It is possible that there is some stuff that will come out because they could not talk about it due to the NCAA investigation, but I can't imagine that there is anything major that the University would not have disclosed today. They know that every small detail is going to come out eventually, and lying now only makes it worse. I have to believe Gee, Smith, and Tressel all realize this and the NCAA has all the facts now. Whether that includes a bunch of facts that the public does not have is yet to be seen, but I believe if it was anything huge it would have been included in the report to the NCAA.
 
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Here I think, is a relevant point:

Ohio State officials and Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany pleaded for leniency in the penalties (from TatGate) and got it with the five players not having to begin their five-game suspensions until after the Sugar Bowl. Part of that ruling was based on the information from the school that no one knew about the sales until early December.
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If the NCAA comes down harder than the self-imposed penalties, there is your reason.
 
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Absolutely terrible. If the NCAA is to maintain even a modicum of consistency they will have to be handing down some big suspensions and probably a bowl ban and vacated wins.

But then again, the NCAA is hardly consistent and certainly not fair. It's hard to predict the outcome of this, but suffice it to say what Ohio State did to "self-penalize" was not nearly enough.
 
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BearBuck27;1886001; said:
Don't follow your logic. Did they hold Jim Tressel at gun-point telling him not to forward these emails along to legal council for fear of getting in trouble?

The Tat 5 all made a big mistake. Jim Tressel made a much bigger one.
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Tressel made a huge mistake yes, but lets not forget how he got in this position in the first place...i also agree with gator's previous post about after reading the email's it makes JT look alot worse...i thought the same thing...but then i think about whose fault is it really? Did JT send those players to that shoddy tattoo parlor and tell them to associate with a peice of shit drug dealer who will gladly take their big 10 rings, signed jerseys, signed cleats, signed footballs, signed pictures, in exchange for tattoos? uhhhhhh no....when i quoted that re-tweet from pryor's twitter account i was being sarcastic about the post being clever...pryor is not a piece of shit, he was just young and dumb and made huge mistakes which he apologized for...but that tweet that asshole posted on his account was correct in a sense...it is partially pryors fault that JT is even in this situation, so lets not everybody forget about that aspect of it...like the great line from Full Metal Jacket....its a big shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite
 
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ttk;1886010; said:
Absolutely terrible. If the NCAA is to maintain even a modicum of consistency they will have to be handing down some big suspensions and probably a bowl ban and vacated wins.

But then again, the NCAA is hardly consistent and certainly not fair. It's hard to predict the outcome of this, but suffice it to say what Ohio State did to "self-penalize" was not nearly enough.
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I wonder why you would feel this way. Hmmmm...
 
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y0yoyoin;1886012; said:
it is partially pryors fault that JT is even in this situation, so lets not everybody forget about that aspect of it
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I guess we'll just agree to disagree. In my IMO, Jim Tressel is in this situation entirely because of Jim Tressel. He made the decision to not pass the emails to compliance and seek legal counseling. That is entirely on him, not the Tat 5, but I digress. I just hope the NCAA's rebuttal is the end of it.
 
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