utgrad73;1542153; said:I fully expect Pryor to explode this weekend.
Toledo has given up 90 points in 2 games. I would certainly hope for an improvement.
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utgrad73;1542153; said:I fully expect Pryor to explode this weekend.
osucollegebuck;1542099; said:Boom Herron is a back up HB at best I think its time we give one of the younger guys a shot or go with Saine. Boom cannot make the first guy miss. Full effort is great but when your not getting the job done, it doesn't really impress me.
Wingate1217;1542243; said:TP is were Troy was in his development.
He is thinking to much trying to determine when he should stay or leave the pocket. Troy did a lot of this earlier on as he first always left the pocket, then seemed to go the other way and never leave the pocket. But we saw that by the Scum game the lightbulb went on in Troy's mind and as they say the rest is history. I expect the same thing to happen to TP sometime later this year and I can't wait for him to re-write history.......:)
Redhawk;1542317; said:Toledo has given up 90 points in 2 games. I would certainly hope for an improvement.
billmac91;1542246; said:what the coaches need to do is make the reads easier for Terrelle....I just don't understand the offense they are trying to run, and never will. Even Florida takes decesion-making out of Tebow's hands in a lot of regards. The misdirection throws to TE's, the deep ball's based off play action, rb's exploiting LB mismatches.....all calls that Tebow recognizes pre-snap where they're going to exploit based on gameplanning and playcalls. Not to say Tebow never checks down or goes through progressions.....but Florida creates pre-snap mismatches, and takes a lot of decesion-making out of the game. I just don't understand why tOSU can't do this for Terrelle on a more frequent basis. Texas did the same thing with Vince Young....zone-read offense, with simple options based on what the defense reacted too.
They can try and continue to develop Terrelle into a pocket QB that goes through several reads and relies on his arm, but it will be to the detriment of the team....IMO.
utgrad73;1542467; said:Could TP be struggling with his defensive reads? Is his desire to be a pro-style passer overpowering his running ability? He's a work in progress - a very gifted work. Running simple schemes may be where he is in his development in year two. The best is yet to come.
billmac91;1542469; said:What's the cost though? We EASILY beat USC if the coaching staff plays to Terrelle's strengths rather than making him a pocket QB. I've mentioned it before, but he chose Ohio State to develop into an NFL QB.....that is the dilemma, IMO. How do you tell Terrelle we want to win championships based on your freakish athletiscm rather than trying to develop you into a better NFL prospect?
Florida is winning championships with a college system designed to utilize Tebow's strengths. Tebow isn't running a pro-style offense, and Urban isn't sacrificing wins to make Tebow a better NFL prospect. It is what it is at this point....
Square peg and round hole, IMO.
"He wanted to be a big reason that we won that game. That's the way he is, that's the way he'll always be, and I'd mentioned to him on Sunday, I said, 'Not that it has any relevance, but keep in mind that at this stage Troy Smith was a kickoff returner and at this stage, Vince Young was getting spot duty going in when things were pretty good with a couple little things to do. At this stage you were lined up against a very good defense with a very young offense and it was tough sledding out there, but we have to grow from it.'"
utgrad73;1542455; said:Toledo will be meeting a much tuffer defense. Points will be much harder to get IMO. TP is very competitive and won't sit back after last week, this game will be fun to watch though. See ya'll from the endzone on Sat.
OregonBuckeye;1542476; said:True. Sophomore.
A good reminder from JT:
Tebow went 9-4 as a sophomore, btw.
billmac91;1542485; said:Fair enough. But we score more than 3 points on 5 possesions around the 50 yard line, if Terrelle is trying to be more like Vince Young than Peyton Manning. And I don't fault Terrelle for that, it's just a square peg in a round hole right now.
billmac91;1542485; said:Does Texas beat USC in the Rose Bowl if Vince Young and Texas trotted out the tOSU playbook? I say no way in hell.....
OregonBuckeye;1542495; said:Agreed.
Not a fair comparison. Vince was in his 4th year. He was even more limited than Pryor earlier in his career. Maybe we can get a Texas fan to chime in. If you'll recall, that same bowl season Troy lit up Ntre Ame for 400+ total yards as a 4th year junior. Tressel's playbook will expand once Terrelle shows he can handle it.
FWIW, I don't think there was much of a playbook anyway. I don't think Mack really had to do much that year. Just handed Vince the football and said go.
billmac91;1542497; said:Again, I think it goes back to selling Terrelle on becoming an NFL QB, and trying to deliver on that promise. All things being equal, I think our offense would look drastically different, if the NFL wasn't Terrelle's next step...it'd be about winning now, with an offense that utilizes his best asset.
I think this is where we differ. You see the USC game as a sign that we need to change things up because we lost. I see it as a sign that we can stay on this path because we are that close and he's still just a pup.