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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

MililaniBuckeye;1280041; said:
Lesmerisis can't be serious...
I'm going to assume he's putting Daniel, Bradford, McCoy, Reesing, Freeman and Harrell in front of Pryor, that would make him number seven. I really can't complain too much about any of those six guys being ahead of him when he's only started two games to this point.
 
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Buckeye Nut;1280068; said:
I'm going to assume he's putting Daniel, Bradford, McCoy, Reesing, Freeman and Harrell in front of Pryor, that would make him number seven. I really can't complain too much about any of those six guys being ahead of him when he's only started two games to this point.

I'd put Zac Robinson ahead of Freeman.
 
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Sporting News

10 things to watch: Terrelle Pryor is for real

Posted: October 3, 2008

1. The real deal

It's OK to admit it. Come on, you can do it. All that preseason hype, all that publicity for a guy who hadn't taken a snap of football at the collegiate level, was all worth it.
Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor is the real deal. And he's only five games into his college career.
Earlier this week, Ohio State tailback Chris Wells spoke of still winning the Heisman Trophy this year. Uh, Chris? You're not even the best player on your team.
Pryor is.
Now we know why Pryor's recruitment meant so much to so many coaches--specifically, the two coaches at Ohio State and Michigan. Consider, if you will, the Buckeyes without Pryor: a minimum three-loss team with the now exposed Todd Boeckman under center.
And Michigan if it had Pryor? Probably unbeaten.
This weekend is Pryor's first significant road game within the Big Ten, and we all know how most freshmen respond on the road. Don't give me that excuse that Pryor played against USC, and that it can't be much harder than that.
Here's how much harder: He's playing against a team (Wisconsin) that knows Ohio State's personnel and schemes much better than USC, and playing in a stadium (Camp Randall) that's three or four times louder and more intimidating than the Coliseum.
And he's playing against a desperate team, a team that has won key league games under coach Bret Bielema the last two seasons. This game, more than any on the Ohio State schedule and because of those unique circumstances, will be the biggest test of the season for Pryor.
 
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Buckeye Nut;1280068; said:
I'm going to assume he's putting Daniel, Bradford, McCoy, Reesing, Freeman and Harrell in front of Pryor, that would make him number seven. I really can't complain too much about any of those six guys being ahead of him when he's only started two games to this point.

I don't care about the fact Pryor has only two starts under his belt. The only two QBs that you've listed whom I'd put ahead of Pryor to be our QB in this weekend's game at Wiscy would be Chase Daniel and Sam Bradford.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1280122; said:
I don't care about the fact Pryor has only two starts under his belt. The only two QBs that you've listed whom I'd put ahead of Pryor to be our QB in this weekend's game at Wiscy would be Chase Daniel and Sam Bradford.
Terrelle has much to prove to reach and eclipse Reesing, among others on that list. If we're going on potential and talent regarding Pryor, then Freeman creeps up there as well.

I'd be curious for your rebuttal of Harrell, and how that compares to the caliber of opponent Terrelle's thrived against thus far.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1280122; said:
I don't care about the fact Pryor has only two starts under his belt. The only two QBs that you've listed whom I'd put ahead of Pryor to be our QB in this weekend's game at Wiscy would be Chase Daniel and Sam Bradford.

Right now, many are saying McCoy might be the early pick for Heisman, and you're ready to put Pryor above him?

On talent alone, Pryor easily sits atop the list. But in terms of current overall skill as a QB, Pryor, to me at least, is unquestionably 6th on that list behind Bradford, McCoy, Harrell, Reesing, and Daniel. The rest is up for debate.
 
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jwinslow;1280128; said:
Terrelle has much to prove to reach and eclipse Reesing, among others on that list. If we're going on potential and talent regarding Pryor, then Freeman creeps up there as well.

I'd be curious for your rebuttal of Harrell, and how that compares to the caliber of opponent Terrelle's thrived against thus far.

mross34;1280131; said:
Right now, many are saying McCoy might be the early pick for Heisman, and you're ready to put Pryor above him?

On talent alone, Pryor easily sits atop the list. But in terms of current overall skill as a QB, Pryor, to me at least, is unquestionably 6th on that list behind Bradford, McCoy, Harrell, Reesing, and Daniel. The rest is up for debate.

I've never been mega-impressed with McCoy. Haven't seen Reesing but once (last year). Haven't seen Harrell. Still, I've seen enough of what Pryor has in his five games to prove to me that he has natural talent to the point that it exceeds experience...the kid simply has it. Tell me that all other QBs mentioned, including Daniel and Bradford, would cause an opposing DC to totally redesign his scheme for that QB like he would have to for Pryor. The other QBs may complete a pass or two more than Pryor would, but Pryor would also make a bigger play or two with his mobility than the others, so right there essentially is a wash. Now factor in the fact that the defense absolutely has to play Pryor to pass or run on every single down, unlike they would the other QBs, and that makes the difference.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1280159; said:
I've never been mega-impressed with McCoy. Haven't seen Reesing but once (last year). Haven't seen Harrell. Still, I've seen enough of what Pryor has in his five games to prove to me that he has natural talent to the point that it exceeds experience...the kid simply has it. Tell me that all other QBs mentioned, including Daniel and Bradford, would cause an opposing DC to totally redesign his scheme for that QB like he would have to for Pryor. The other QBs may complete a pass or two more than Pryor would, but Pryor would also make a bigger play or two with his mobility than the others, so right there essentially is a wash. Now factor in the fact that the defense absolutely has to play Pryor to pass or run on every single down, unlike they would the other QBs, and that makes the difference.

You need to watch McCoy. He's quite good...far better than the kid we munched on in 2006.

Not saying that TP won't eclipse McCoy...but TODAY...gimmie McCoy. He's completing 70% of his passes, very few INTs is UTs leading rusher as well. Harrell, equally good in his own way. TP might get there someday, but I don't see him there now.

Having said that, I do like TPs confidence...amazing for a young kid. But I'll be anxious to see what that confidence looks like against Wiscy...this will be a big test for TP and the Bucks.
 
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Dryden;1280161; said:
It's a recurring theme this year ... not to knock on our Buckeyes, and particularly the Brian's, but there needs to be more game-breaking from the WR position. Pryor jumps from #7 to #2 or #3 on that list if he's got Crabtree, Iglesias, or Maclin to throw to.

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osugrad21;1280101; said:
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Consider, if you will, the Buckeyes without Pryor: a minimum three-loss team with the now exposed Todd Boeckman under center.

Where do they get three losses for Ohio State? Of course, we'll count the USC game as the first. But they can't count Youngstown State as one, or Ohio University, for that matter. Boeckman throttled Youngstown State and Pryor barely played against Ohio. After USC, Boeckman played 1 play against Troy, so we can't really claim that as a loss with Boeckman in (but maybe they do). And Boeckman didn't start against Minnesota, but he played pretty well when he was in the game. I see Ohio State being 3-2 at worst without Pryor. And that's stretching it, because you can't really know who they'd have played against Troy, since Boeckman didn't play in that game.
 
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Zurp;1280210; said:
Where do they get three losses for Ohio State? Of course, we'll count the USC game as the first. But they can't count Youngstown State as one, or Ohio University, for that matter. Boeckman throttled Youngstown State and Pryor barely played against Ohio. After USC, Boeckman played 1 play against Troy, so we can't really claim that as a loss with Boeckman in (but maybe they do). And Boeckman didn't start against Minnesota, but he played pretty well when he was in the game. I see Ohio State being 3-2 at worst without Pryor. And that's stretching it, because you can't really know who they'd have played against Troy, since Boeckman didn't play in that game.
I'm thinking he meant for the season, losses versus D-Lines that could exploit a leaky O-Line trying to keep a statue upright: USC, Wisky, and PSU.
 
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Zurp;1280210; said:
Where do they get three losses for Ohio State? Of course, we'll count the USC game as the first. But they can't count Youngstown State as one, or Ohio University, for that matter. Boeckman throttled Youngstown State and Pryor barely played against Ohio. After USC, Boeckman played 1 play against Troy, so we can't really claim that as a loss with Boeckman in (but maybe they do). And Boeckman didn't start against Minnesota, but he played pretty well when he was in the game. I see Ohio State being 3-2 at worst without Pryor. And that's stretching it, because you can't really know who they'd have played against Troy, since Boeckman didn't play in that game.


He means 3 losses ALL YEAR
 
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