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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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But...if we get up early, don't expect big numbers from the offense...instead expect a big game from the defense and special teams.
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JohnathanXC - Agree with you that getting a leg up in The Game will be a big aid to the cause. Also like to add, don't step of the gas - we cannot just sit on a lead that day. Even if its a drive resulting in a field goal we will need to keep offensive production and Time of Possession positive.
 
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Am I In A Bucknuts Timewarp ????
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Its not a time warp.. because this is what Bucknuts is like. This may be a rip in the cyber-interformnal continuum. Of course smithlabs may be able to speak to that more than me.

Ginn is from Cleveland?

Bullshit, I don't beleive it.
 
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As lame *and delayed* as this may be, I absofrigginlutely love that damn banner. I'm sure someone else has pointed this out, but what do all of those #7's have in common? The letter G!!! Galloway, Germaine, Gamble, and Ginn. I think that number should be reserved just for guys whose last name begins with a G :-p



BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
Ted Ginn is a phenomenal player, and is getting more and more playtime as this season progresses. First of all, you should be pleased that Tressel is willing to continue to give him more PT at WR and PR (most teams don't use two return men).

The reason he isn't starting at KR is because Maurice Hall is an excellent kick returner who is a seasoned back and clearly much stronger. He has had a number of good returns called back on penalties, and is about to break the all-time record for KR yardage while playing on a team that rarely gave up scores and needed to be kicked off to.

He should be given a few more chances with the ball, but putting him in on KR and reverses and the like is a huge gamble. Also, whatever Tressel shows from his playbook now cannot be used later against that other school. I think you'll see a lot of Ted Ginn on Nov 20.
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Here's how good Ted Ginn is - he is capable of resurrecting outdated superlatives. When he scored on the slant, I stood up and yelled, "OH MY GOD, THAT WAS DOPE!" My friends were like, "Did you just say "dope?!"

This is like Sesame Street!

Today's game is brought to you by the number '7' and the letter 'G'.:)
 
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Very true indeed. I noticed that when I was trying to think of which #7's I wanted to include. Also, when glancing down at the #7 if you are wearing the jersey, it almost makes a G shape. I definitely smacked my chest all day touting the #7 on it in the face of my MSU parents :) What a wonderful game.
 
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I agree. There's a premium on shutdown corners.

We've just hit the repeat button on the Gamble conversation from last year.

All things being equal - if one player is both a sutdown corner and gamebreaker receiver - he's more valuable as a corner.

Right now we can have the depth at CB to allow him to play at WR - but we will have less depth at CB next year, and I'm inclined to believe that Ginn could beat out whatever competition he faces at the boundary corner position.
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On many teams i would agree with this statement. However, this is a weak offense which struggles to put points on the board and Ginn does just that. He puts a spark in an otherwise dead offense. We need him to play both ways, obviously he is athletic enough to do so.
 
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I might have to do a bit of research here. Does anybody know if any true freshman has ever scored on 3 punt returns? I know that he's already tied the record for returns for a TD in BUCKEYE HISTORY!!! Thats just absurd, in all the years of great Buckeye tradition, he's set this record as a true freshman.

Now... I believe that a shutdown corner is an infinitely valuable quality, much more so than a gamebreaking WR. My thing is, with the young guys that we have now at CB *Youbouty and Underwood* and the guys coming in *Jamario O'Neal and Malcolm Jenkins*, I believe that we are set at the CB position for at least the next two years and well beyond. I have no doubts that Ginn would be able to take over the reigns of all the great OSU DB's of recent memory *Springs, Winfield, Clements, Plummer, Doss, etc.*, I think he's infinitely more valuable on offense when we have very quality guys who already can play the CB position. OSU never has a problem with defense, the pipeline just keeps on filling in holes, but offense is another story. As much as I loved Michael Jenkins, he was a steady, clutch type guy and not really a "gamebreaker". With the exception of a certain not to be named number 13, I can't really think of any real gamebreakers that OSU had had on offense since David Boston left. We all know that Tressel will ALWAYS have a good to great defense, but without a guy like Krenzel who can properly manage a game, we need a guy like Ginn who scares the hell out of opposing defenses and throws them off of their games.
 
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Of the many things that I cant understand about our offense, one of the most puzzling to me is this - we have two of the best YAC WRs in the league. Then why do we never have them run routes where their hips are pointed downfield? I saw it twice today - the fly where Holmes should have caught it, and the slant by Ginn for the TD. Every other pass I recall, the receiver had his hips toward the QB or the sideline.

I really cannot explain why JT is so hesitant to use the tremendous firepower he has at his fingertips.


Also - count me in as one who thinks a shutdown corner is more important than a blazing WR. Its all predicated on the offense. For one, Michael Jenkins was our most prolific WR last year, and he averaged four catches per game, and as cited above, most were with his hips to the QB or the sideline. So on offense, Ginn could likely be reduced to average one catch per quarter. Conversely, as a DB, he would draw shutting down the other teams best WR, on EVERY play. Allowing him to play on an island open up so many options for your D. Of course, this entails not having the CBs play 12 yards off on EVERY play, even inside the 15 like I saw today, but thats another story.
 
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It's early, but should Ginn play exclusively on O or should he be switched to corner?

Should he play exclusively on offense next season, or should he get all the practice reps at CB and play some on offense?

To me it's a tough question because OSU supposedly has a bunch of playmakers on O next season (Holmes, Lyons, Dukes, Pittman, Haw, Nicol) that should be great.

Do you take Ted away on O so that he can be a shut down corner?
 
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No way we take him off offense completely, and I realize that's not what you were asking. If we do try him on D, then I hope it's in lieu of PRs, although it hard to pull him from there either despite it being an injury risk. Meaning I'd rather see D plays take away from STs plays, not O plays.

Any time the kid touches the ball, there's a real chance he's taking it home. People say that all the time about impact players, but it has literal truth when it comes to TGjr.

It's all a good problem to have.
 
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